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TBolt help...

DM
Dave Mallery
Mon, Jun 19, 2017 8:16 PM

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

--
Dave Mallery, K5EN                (ubuntu linux 16-10)
PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
hi My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the cables involved. If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it fixable? many thanks in advance! dave mallery -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
BK
Bob kb8tq
Mon, Jun 19, 2017 8:41 PM

Hi

First thing to check is the solder joints on the 9 pin connector. They have been a
bit of a problem on other TBolts. After that, check the voltage on the data out (TX)
pin. It should be negative by at least 3V and more likely 5V. If it’s not, check your
negative supply into the unit and the RS-232 driver. If the TX looks ok, go straight
to the RX side of the RS-232 driver. If the RX signal shows up there (plug and un-plug
your data cable) see if it goes over to the output pin of the device.

Lots of fun ...

Bob

On Jun 19, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Dave Mallery dave.mallery@gmail.com wrote:

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

--
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PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)

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Hi First thing to check is the solder joints on the 9 pin connector. They have been a bit of a problem on other TBolts. After that, check the voltage on the data out (TX) pin. It should be negative by at least 3V and more likely 5V. If it’s not, check your negative supply into the unit and the RS-232 driver. If the TX looks ok, go straight to the RX side of the RS-232 driver. If the RX signal shows up there (plug and un-plug your data cable) see if it goes over to the output pin of the device. Lots of fun ... Bob > On Jun 19, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Dave Mallery <dave.mallery@gmail.com> wrote: > > hi > > My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. > > It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data > coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as > well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the > cables involved. > > If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it > fixable? > > many thanks in advance! > > dave mallery > > -- > Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) > PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 > > linux counter #64628 (since 1997) > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Tom Van Baak
Mon, Jun 19, 2017 8:41 PM

Hi Dave,

There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I did not look into it.

Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one. Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial transceiver.

Thanks,
/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mallery" dave.mallery@gmail.com
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help...

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

--
Dave Mallery, K5EN                (ubuntu linux 16-10)
PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
Hi Dave, There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I did not look into it. Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one. Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial transceiver. Thanks, /tvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mallery" <dave.mallery@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help... > hi > > My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. > > It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data > coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as > well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the > cables involved. > > If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it > fixable? > > many thanks in advance! > > dave mallery > > -- > Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) > PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 > > linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
MN
Mike Naruta AA8K
Mon, Jun 19, 2017 8:58 PM

On 06/19/2017 04:16 PM, Dave Mallery wrote:

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

If you do a power-down reset, does it start talking again?  I
had one that did that.

Mike - AA8K

On 06/19/2017 04:16 PM, Dave Mallery wrote: > hi > > My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. > > It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data > coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as > well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the > cables involved. > > If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it > fixable? > > many thanks in advance! > > dave mallery > If you do a power-down reset, does it start talking again? I had one that did that. Mike - AA8K
JL
J. L. Trantham
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 2:12 AM

I had a T-Bolt 'failure' when my -12V supply died.

I am aware of another event on the list when the solder connection at the -12V connector to the t-Bolt failed.

Make sure the -12V is reaching the PCB for the T-Bolt.

Hope this helps.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:42 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help...

Hi Dave,

There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I did not look into it.

Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one. Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial transceiver.

Thanks,
/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mallery" dave.mallery@gmail.com
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help...

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

--
Dave Mallery, K5EN                (ubuntu linux 16-10)
PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)

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I had a T-Bolt 'failure' when my -12V supply died. I am aware of another event on the list when the solder connection at the -12V connector to the t-Bolt failed. Make sure the -12V is reaching the PCB for the T-Bolt. Hope this helps. Joe -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:42 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help... Hi Dave, There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I did not look into it. Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one. Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial transceiver. Thanks, /tvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mallery" <dave.mallery@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help... > hi > > My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. > > It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data > coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as > well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the > cables involved. > > If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it > fixable? > > many thanks in advance! > > dave mallery > > -- > Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) > PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 > > linux counter #64628 (since 1997) _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Dave Mallery
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 2:22 AM

hi

i have powered down a few times and no no joy

thanks

dave

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Mike Naruta AA8K aa8k@comcast.net wrote:

On 06/19/2017 04:16 PM, Dave Mallery wrote:

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as
well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

If you do a power-down reset, does it start talking again?  I had one that
did that.

Mike - AA8K


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PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
hi i have powered down a few times and no no joy thanks dave On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Mike Naruta AA8K <aa8k@comcast.net> wrote: > On 06/19/2017 04:16 PM, Dave Mallery wrote: > >> hi >> >> My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. >> >> It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data >> coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, as >> well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the >> cables involved. >> >> If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it >> fixable? >> >> many thanks in advance! >> >> dave mallery >> >> > > If you do a power-down reset, does it start talking again? I had one that > did that. > > Mike - AA8K > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
DM
Dave Mallery
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 5:15 PM

hi

many thanks to all!

it was much simpler:  the pins in the power plug on the Tbolt had gradually
slid up in the connector block till the -12 disconnected.
all this in a closed insulated box on the wall!!!

humbled and happy

73,

dave mallery, k5en

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J. L. Trantham jltran@att.net wrote:

I had a T-Bolt 'failure' when my -12V supply died.

I am aware of another event on the list when the solder connection at the
-12V connector to the t-Bolt failed.

Make sure the -12V is reaching the PCB for the T-Bolt.

Hope this helps.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van
Baak
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:42 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help...

Hi Dave,

There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I
did not look into it.

Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one.
Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply
voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails
it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and
use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial
transceiver.

Thanks,
/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Mallery" dave.mallery@gmail.com
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM
Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help...

hi

My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy.

It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data
coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor,

as

well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices.  I have tested all the
cables involved.

If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further?  is it
fixable?

many thanks in advance!

dave mallery

--
Dave Mallery, K5EN                (ubuntu linux 16-10)
PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)

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Dave Mallery, K5EN                (ubuntu linux 16-10)
PO Box 15                              Ophir,  OR  97464

  linux counter #64628 (since 1997)
hi many thanks to all! it was much simpler: the pins in the power plug on the Tbolt had gradually slid up in the connector block till the -12 disconnected. all this in a closed insulated box on the wall!!! humbled and happy 73, dave mallery, k5en On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:12 PM, J. L. Trantham <jltran@att.net> wrote: > I had a T-Bolt 'failure' when my -12V supply died. > > I am aware of another event on the list when the solder connection at the > -12V connector to the t-Bolt failed. > > Make sure the -12V is reaching the PCB for the T-Bolt. > > Hope this helps. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Van > Baak > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:42 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] TBolt help... > > Hi Dave, > > There was one other report of something similar over the past ten years. I > did not look into it. > > Since your TBolt was part of the group buy, I'll send you a new one. > Contact me off-list. But can you double check the -12 V power supply > voltage for me? Anything between -7 and -15 is probably ok. But if it fails > it will affect the serial port. Also, if you have time, open the box and > use a 'scope on both the input (TTL) and output (RS232) of the serial > transceiver. > > Thanks, > /tvb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Mallery" <dave.mallery@gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 1:16 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] TBolt help... > > > > hi > > > > My Tbolt has been running for a long time, since the final group buy. > > > > It is still running (indicated by the 10MHz output) but there is no data > > coming out the serial port. LH says so and so does my lil TSIP monitor, > as > > well as my rs-232 cable monitor/breakout devices. I have tested all the > > cables involved. > > > > If this has happened to you, were you able to isolate it further? is it > > fixable? > > > > many thanks in advance! > > > > dave mallery > > > > -- > > Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) > > PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 > > > > linux counter #64628 (since 1997) > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Dave Mallery, K5EN (ubuntu linux 16-10) PO Box 15 Ophir, OR 97464 linux counter #64628 (since 1997)