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IEEE Spectrum - Dec 2017 - article on chip-scale atomic frequency reference

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Tom McDermott
Fri, Dec 8, 2017 5:40 PM

There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum.

Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on
a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene").
The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields,
and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic
fields.

They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have
licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer.
The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference.

-- Tom, N5EG

There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum. Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene"). The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields, and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic fields. They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer. The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference. -- Tom, N5EG
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Ulrich Rohde
Fri, Dec 8, 2017 6:38 PM

Impressive, Ulrich 
 
In a message dated 12/8/2017 12:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tom.n5eg@gmail.com writes:

 
There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum.

Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on
a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene").
The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields,
and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic
fields.

They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have
licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer.
The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference.

-- Tom, N5EG


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Impressive, Ulrich    In a message dated 12/8/2017 12:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tom.n5eg@gmail.com writes:   There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum. Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene"). The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields, and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic fields. They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer. The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference. -- Tom, N5EG _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Wayne (gmail)
Fri, Dec 8, 2017 7:32 PM

On Dec 8, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

Impressive, Ulrich

In a message dated 12/8/2017 12:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tom.n5eg@gmail.com writes:

There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum.

Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on
a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene").
The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields,
and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic
fields.

They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have
licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer.
The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference.

-- Tom, N5EG


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https://www.google.com/amp/s/spectrum.ieee.org/semiconductors/materials/to-build-the-worlds-smallest-atomic-clock-trap-a-nitrogen-atom-in-a-carbon-cage.amp.html > On Dec 8, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Ulrich Rohde via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > > Impressive, Ulrich > > In a message dated 12/8/2017 12:41:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, tom.n5eg@gmail.com writes: > > > There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum. > > Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on > a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene"). > The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields, > and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic > fields. > > They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have > licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer. > The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference. > > -- Tom, N5EG > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Dana Whitlow
Fri, Dec 8, 2017 7:50 PM

I saw that about the N atom trapped inside a C60 molecule, but also
took note of the present cost of the material.  I wonder how much is
going to be required to make a good standard.

Dana

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Tom McDermott tom.n5eg@gmail.com wrote:

There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum.

Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on
a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene").
The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields,
and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic
fields.

They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have
licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer.
The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference.

-- Tom, N5EG


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I saw that about the N atom trapped inside a C60 molecule, but also took note of the present cost of the material. I wonder how much is going to be required to make a good standard. Dana On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Tom McDermott <tom.n5eg@gmail.com> wrote: > There's an interesting article in the December 2017 issue of IEEE Spectrum. > > Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on > a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene"). > The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields, > and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic > fields. > > They have not incorporated the material into a working standard, but have > licensed the chemical fabrication technology to at least one manufacturer. > The idea is to make a chip-scale atomic frequency reference. > > -- Tom, N5EG > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Attila Kinali
Fri, Dec 15, 2017 1:06 PM

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:40:29 -0800
Tom McDermott tom.n5eg@gmail.com wrote:

Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on
a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene").
The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields,
and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic
fields.

The original paper in question is [1]. As with the nitrogen vacancy
clocks, which also trap nitrogen within a Carbon lattice, these have the
drawback of quite high temperature coefficients, Harding et al measured 89ppm/K.

		Attila Kinali

[1] "Spin Resonance Clock Transition of the Endohedral Fullerene 15N@C60",
by Harding, Zhou, Zhou, Myers, Ardavan, Briggs, Porfyrakis, Laird, 2017
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.119.140801

It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:40:29 -0800 Tom McDermott <tom.n5eg@gmail.com> wrote: > Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on > a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene"). > The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields, > and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic > fields. The original paper in question is [1]. As with the nitrogen vacancy clocks, which also trap nitrogen within a Carbon lattice, these have the drawback of quite high temperature coefficients, Harding et al measured 89ppm/K. Attila Kinali [1] "Spin Resonance Clock Transition of the Endohedral Fullerene 15N@C60", by Harding, Zhou, Zhou, Myers, Ardavan, Briggs, Porfyrakis, Laird, 2017 https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.119.140801 -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Mike Cook
Fri, Dec 15, 2017 4:17 PM

Le 15 déc. 2017 à 14:06, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch a écrit :

On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:40:29 -0800
Tom McDermott tom.n5eg@gmail.com wrote:

Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on
a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene").
The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields,
and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic
fields.

The original paper in question is [1]. As with the nitrogen vacancy
clocks, which also trap nitrogen within a Carbon lattice, these have the
drawback of quite high temperature coefficients, Harding et al measured 89ppm/K.

I wonder if Cs-133 can be inserted into C-60 fullerene? If it could, then a primary reference on a chip might be possible.

		Attila Kinali

[1] "Spin Resonance Clock Transition of the Endohedral Fullerene 15N@C60",
by Harding, Zhou, Zhou, Myers, Ardavan, Briggs, Porfyrakis, Laird, 2017
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.119.140801

It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
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> Le 15 déc. 2017 à 14:06, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> a écrit : > > On Fri, 8 Dec 2017 09:40:29 -0800 > Tom McDermott <tom.n5eg@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Researchers at Oxford U. have fabricated an atomic reference based on >> a single nitrogen molecule inside a 60-atom carbon sphere ("Fullerene"). >> The cage of carbon isolates the nitrogen from external electric fields, >> and they've developed a method to also isolate it from external magnetic >> fields. > > The original paper in question is [1]. As with the nitrogen vacancy > clocks, which also trap nitrogen within a Carbon lattice, these have the > drawback of quite high temperature coefficients, Harding et al measured 89ppm/K. I wonder if Cs-133 can be inserted into C-60 fullerene? If it could, then a primary reference on a chip might be possible. > > Attila Kinali > > > [1] "Spin Resonance Clock Transition of the Endohedral Fullerene 15N@C60", > by Harding, Zhou, Zhou, Myers, Ardavan, Briggs, Porfyrakis, Laird, 2017 > https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.119.140801 > -- > It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All > the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no > use without that foundation. > -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. "The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it. » George Bernard Shaw
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Attila Kinali
Fri, Dec 15, 2017 6:00 PM

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:17:31 +0100
Mike Cook michael.cook@sfr.fr wrote:

The original paper in question is [1]. As with the nitrogen vacancy
clocks, which also trap nitrogen within a Carbon lattice, these have the
drawback of quite high temperature coefficients, Harding et al measured 89ppm/K.

I wonder if Cs-133 can be inserted into C-60 fullerene? If it could,
then a primary reference on a chip might be possible.

No, it wouldn't. It isn't the species of atom being used that defines
whether it is a primary standard or not, but rather that it is possible
to exactly calculate the frequency of the output given all disturbances.
It is possible to achieve this with Cs, Rb, Hg, Yb, Sr, ... it just depends
on how you do it.

The problem with the atom-in-fullerene is that the atom is not in
(a good approximation of) vacuum, as it is surrounded by a molecule
in close proximity. This means the surrounding atoms disturb the electrons
of the probed atom. This is what causes the large temperature dependence.

		Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 17:17:31 +0100 Mike Cook <michael.cook@sfr.fr> wrote: > > The original paper in question is [1]. As with the nitrogen vacancy > > clocks, which also trap nitrogen within a Carbon lattice, these have the > > drawback of quite high temperature coefficients, Harding et al measured 89ppm/K. > > I wonder if Cs-133 can be inserted into C-60 fullerene? If it could, > then a primary reference on a chip might be possible. No, it wouldn't. It isn't the species of atom being used that defines whether it is a primary standard or not, but rather that it is possible to exactly calculate the frequency of the output given all disturbances. It is possible to achieve this with Cs, Rb, Hg, Yb, Sr, ... it just depends on how you do it. The problem with the atom-in-fullerene is that the atom is not in (a good approximation of) vacuum, as it is surrounded by a molecule in close proximity. This means the surrounding atoms disturb the electrons of the probed atom. This is what causes the large temperature dependence. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson