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Re: [time-nuts] RPi/ beagle bone-like computer without video

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Hal Murray
Wed, Nov 30, 2016 11:26 PM

I'm looking for a small linux single board - similar to RPi or  Beaglebone
Black, but don't need the HDMI, or video stuff.

Don't limit your search to things that doen't have what you don't need.  It
may be cheaper to get a high volume part and ignore the sections you don't
need.

I learned that ages ago when a TI rep suggested a codec chip for an A/D.  We
just ignored half the chip.  It did what we needed at a lower cost that any
of the alternatives we could find.

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jimlux@earthlink.net said: > I'm looking for a small linux single board - similar to RPi or Beaglebone > Black, but don't need the HDMI, or video stuff. Don't limit your search to things that doen't have what you don't need. It may be cheaper to get a high volume part and ignore the sections you don't need. I learned that ages ago when a TI rep suggested a codec chip for an A/D. We just ignored half the chip. It did what we needed at a lower cost that any of the alternatives we could find. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
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jimlux
Thu, Dec 1, 2016 12:57 AM

On 11/30/16 3:26 PM, Hal Murray wrote:

I'm looking for a small linux single board - similar to RPi or  Beaglebone
Black, but don't need the HDMI, or video stuff.

Don't limit your search to things that doen't have what you don't need.  It
may be cheaper to get a high volume part and ignore the sections you don't
need.

Power consumption - it's going to be battery powered
I've been looking through the literature, and you can power down some of
the chips on most of these things.

On 11/30/16 3:26 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > jimlux@earthlink.net said: >> I'm looking for a small linux single board - similar to RPi or Beaglebone >> Black, but don't need the HDMI, or video stuff. > > Don't limit your search to things that doen't have what you don't need. It > may be cheaper to get a high volume part and ignore the sections you don't > need. Power consumption - it's going to be battery powered I've been looking through the literature, and you can power down some of the chips on most of these things.
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Attila Kinali
Thu, Dec 1, 2016 1:07 AM

On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:57:10 -0800
jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

Power consumption - it's going to be battery powered
I've been looking through the literature, and you can power down some of
the chips on most of these things.

If power consumption is an issue for you, then I would advise against
going for a Linux board, unless you either find a board that is specifically
designed for that purpose (and has the software support) or you have
a few months time to iron out the problems in the Linux kernel to
get the system to go into sleep.

It's far easier to use something line Nuttx or FreeRTOS on an
Cortex-M3 or arm9 and get that to use little power than it is
to get an full fledged Linux system to behave.
(Stay away from Zephyr, it's a trap)

		Attila Kinali

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On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:57:10 -0800 jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > Power consumption - it's going to be battery powered > I've been looking through the literature, and you can power down some of > the chips on most of these things. If power consumption is an issue for you, then I would advise against going for a Linux board, unless you either find a board that is specifically designed for that purpose (and has the software support) or you have a few months time to iron out the problems in the Linux kernel to get the system to go into sleep. It's far easier to use something line Nuttx or FreeRTOS on an Cortex-M3 or arm9 and get that to use little power than it is to get an full fledged Linux system to behave. (Stay away from Zephyr, it's a trap) Attila Kinali -- Malek's Law: Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way.
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Chris Albertson
Thu, Dec 1, 2016 7:17 AM

Yes, that was exactly my point, There are two kinds of ARM, the A and the
M.  "A" is the kind used in you smart phone and the Raspberry Pi and BBB
and these suck up a few watts of power.  The M type is made for low power
and could run off a few AA batteries and the battery shelf life would
expire before the battery was used up.  A simple data logger could keep
the CPU in sleep mode most of the time and then it uses literally a few
micro amps.

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:57:10 -0800
jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

Power consumption - it's going to be battery powered
I've been looking through the literature, and you can power down some of
the chips on most of these things.

If power consumption is an issue for you, then I would advise against
going for a Linux board, unless you either find a board that is
specifically
designed for that purpose (and has the software support) or you have
a few months time to iron out the problems in the Linux kernel to
get the system to go into sleep.

It's far easier to use something line Nuttx or FreeRTOS on an
Cortex-M3 or arm9 and get that to use little power than it is
to get an full fledged Linux system to behave.
(Stay away from Zephyr, it's a trap)

                     Attila Kinali

--
Malek's Law:
Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way.


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Yes, that was exactly my point, There are two kinds of ARM, the A and the M. "A" is the kind used in you smart phone and the Raspberry Pi and BBB and these suck up a few watts of power. The M type is made for low power and could run off a few AA batteries and the battery shelf life would expire before the battery was used up. A simple data logger could keep the CPU in sleep mode most of the time and then it uses literally a few micro amps. On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:57:10 -0800 > jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Power consumption - it's going to be battery powered > > I've been looking through the literature, and you can power down some of > > the chips on most of these things. > > If power consumption is an issue for you, then I would advise against > going for a Linux board, unless you either find a board that is > specifically > designed for that purpose (and has the software support) or you have > a few months time to iron out the problems in the Linux kernel to > get the system to go into sleep. > > It's far easier to use something line Nuttx or FreeRTOS on an > Cortex-M3 or arm9 and get that to use little power than it is > to get an full fledged Linux system to behave. > (Stay away from Zephyr, it's a trap) > > Attila Kinali > > -- > Malek's Law: > Any simple idea will be worded in the most complicated way. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California