J
Jerry
Tue, Aug 29, 2017 3:30 PM
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I think
it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an i5 Intel
with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log sequence before
crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows within 1 sec the TBolt
jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a few more timestamp errors, the
date gets corrupted ending with bad RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again
(and do nothing to the TBolt) - everything looks good again for about 10-15
minutes and it all repeats again.
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on 0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000 err:2001
ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode' while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until finally it
shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms ending :
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000 1.196108
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I think
it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an i5 Intel
with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log sequence before
crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows within 1 sec the TBolt
jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a few more timestamp errors, the
date gets corrupted ending with bad RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again
(and do nothing to the TBolt) - everything looks good again for about 10-15
minutes and it all repeats again.
This log began with:
# 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
#
# tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
# 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on 0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
#
# 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
#
# tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
#
# 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
#
# tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000 err:2001
ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode' while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until finally it
shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms ending :
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
#
# 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
#
# tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
#
# 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
#
# tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000 1.196108
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
BK
Bob kb8tq
Tue, Aug 29, 2017 4:08 PM
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I think
it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an i5 Intel
with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log sequence before
crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows within 1 sec the TBolt
jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a few more timestamp errors, the
date gets corrupted ending with bad RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again
(and do nothing to the TBolt) - everything looks good again for about 10-15
minutes and it all repeats again.
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on 0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000 err:2001
ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode' while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until finally it
shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms ending :
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000 1.196108
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>
> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I think
> it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an i5 Intel
> with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log sequence before
> crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows within 1 sec the TBolt
> jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a few more timestamp errors, the
> date gets corrupted ending with bad RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again
> (and do nothing to the TBolt) - everything looks good again for about 10-15
> minutes and it all repeats again.
>
>
>
> This log began with:
>
>
>
> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
> 1.196032 42.660358 8
>
>
>
> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
>
>
>
> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
>
>
>
> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>
>
>
> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on 0 or 3
> Sats:
>
>
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
> err:47933984999 ms
>
> #
>
> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
> 1.196165 42.362377 7
>
> #
>
> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
> 1.196165 83.500000 0
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000 err:2001
> ms
>
>
>
> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode' while
> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until finally it
> shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms ending :
>
> #! year error: 60404
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
> err:1601151229972001 ms
>
> #
>
> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
> 1.196117 42.588669 5
>
> #
>
> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
> 1.185647 42.588669 0
>
> #! year error: 1814
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
> err:-6406041597000 ms
>
> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000 1.196108
> 42.278618 0
>
> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
>
> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
>
> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
>
> ...
>
> ..
>
> ...
>
> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
> 1.196070 40.071625 5
>
> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
>
> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline OK
> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
> 225825
>
> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
> 1.196070 44.131538 5
>
> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
> 225825
>
> #! year error: 21719
>
> #! year error: 45931
>
> #! year error: 45932
>
> #! year error: 11276
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help
>
>
>
> Jerry NY2KW
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
J
Jerry
Tue, Aug 29, 2017 4:38 PM
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter. If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt) -
everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all repeats again.
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms ending :
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000 1.196108
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter. If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>
> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
> think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an
> i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
> sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
> within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
> few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
> RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt) -
> everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all repeats again.
>
>
>
> This log began with:
>
>
>
> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
> 1.196032 42.660358 8
>
>
>
> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
>
>
>
> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
>
>
>
> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>
>
>
> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on
> 0 or 3
> Sats:
>
>
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
> err:47933984999 ms
>
> #
>
> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
> 1.196165 42.362377 7
>
> #
>
> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
> 1.196165 83.500000 0
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
> err:2001 ms
>
>
>
> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
> while
> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
> finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms ending :
>
> #! year error: 60404
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
> err:1601151229972001 ms
>
> #
>
> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
> 1.196117 42.588669 5
>
> #
>
> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>
> #
>
> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>
> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
> 1.185647 42.588669 0
>
> #! year error: 1814
>
> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
> err:-6406041597000 ms
>
> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000 1.196108
> 42.278618 0
>
> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
>
> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
>
> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
>
> ...
>
> ..
>
> ...
>
> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
> 1.196070 40.071625 5
>
> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
>
> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline OK
> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
> 225825
>
> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
> 1.196070 44.131538 5
>
> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
> 225825
>
> #! year error: 21719
>
> #! year error: 45931
>
> #! year error: 45932
>
> #! year error: 11276
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help
>
>
>
> Jerry NY2KW
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
_______________________________________________
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
KW
Ken Winterling
Tue, Aug 29, 2017 4:52 PM
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if the
TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt to
PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter.
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum cable /
loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt) -
everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if the
TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt to
> PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter.
> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
>
> 73
> Jerry, NY2KW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> time-nuts@febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>
> Hi
>
> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum cable /
> loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
>
> Bob
>
> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
> > think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is an
> > i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
> > sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
> > within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
> > few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
> > RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt) -
> > everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all repeats
> again.
> >
> >
> >
> > This log began with:
> >
> >
> >
> > # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
> > 1.196032 42.660358 8
> >
> >
> >
> > [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
> >
> >
> >
> > After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
> >
> >
> >
> > # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> >
> >
> > Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors on
> > 0 or 3
> > Sats:
> >
> >
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
> > err:47933984999 ms
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
> > 1.196165 42.362377 7
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
> > 1.196165 83.500000 0
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
> > err:2001 ms
> >
> >
> >
> > Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
> > while
> > 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
> > finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
> ending :
> >
> > #! year error: 60404
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000 last=181406509000.000
> > err:1601151229972001 ms
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
> > 1.196117 42.588669 5
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
> > 1.185647 42.588669 0
> >
> > #! year error: 1814
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
> > err:-6406041597000 ms
> >
> > 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
> 1.196108
> > 42.278618 0
> >
> > #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
> >
> > #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
> >
> > #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
> > started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
> >
> > ...
> >
> > ..
> >
> > ...
> >
> > 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
> > 1.196070 40.071625 5
> >
> > #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
> >
> > #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline
> OK
> > Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
> > 225825
> >
> > 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
> > 1.196070 44.131538 5
> >
> > #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
> > 225825
> >
> > #! year error: 21719
> >
> > #! year error: 45931
> >
> > #! year error: 45932
> >
> > #! year error: 11276
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerry NY2KW
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> > and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m
> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
>
J
Jerry
Tue, Aug 29, 2017 6:28 PM
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3 different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken Winterling
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter.
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
- everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3 different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken Winterling
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
> to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter.
> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
>
> 73
> Jerry, NY2KW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> kb8tq
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> time-nuts@febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>
> Hi
>
> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
> cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
>
> Bob
>
> > On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
> >
> > Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
> > think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
> > an
> > i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
> > sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
> > within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
> > few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
> > RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
> > - everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
> > repeats
> again.
> >
> >
> >
> > This log began with:
> >
> >
> >
> > # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
> > 1.196032 42.660358 8
> >
> >
> >
> > [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
> >
> >
> >
> > After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
> >
> >
> >
> > # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> >
> >
> > Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
> > on
> > 0 or 3
> > Sats:
> >
> >
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
> > err:47933984999 ms
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
> > 1.196165 42.362377 7
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
> > 1.196165 83.500000 0
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
> > err:2001 ms
> >
> >
> >
> > Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
> > while
> > 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
> > finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
> ending :
> >
> > #! year error: 60404
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
> > last=181406509000.000
> > err:1601151229972001 ms
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
> > 1.196117 42.588669 5
> >
> > #
> >
> > # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >
> > #
> >
> > # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
> > dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >
> > 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
> > 1.185647 42.588669 0
> >
> > #! year error: 1814
> >
> > #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
> > err:-6406041597000 ms
> >
> > 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
> 1.196108
> > 42.278618 0
> >
> > #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
> >
> > #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
> >
> > #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
> > started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
> >
> > ...
> >
> > ..
> >
> > ...
> >
> > 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
> > 1.196070 40.071625 5
> >
> > #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
> >
> > #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline
> OK
> > Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
> > 225825
> >
> > 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
> > 1.196070 44.131538 5
> >
> > #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
> > 225825
> >
> > #! year error: 21719
> >
> > #! year error: 45931
> >
> > #! year error: 45932
> >
> > #! year error: 11276
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerry NY2KW
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> > and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m ailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow
> the instructions there.
>
_______________________________________________
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
ST
Stephen Tompsett
Wed, Aug 30, 2017 8:28 AM
For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
to clearing the setting every couple of months...
On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3 different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken Winterling
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter.
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
- everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
225825
#! year error: 21719
#! year error: 45931
#! year error: 45932
#! year error: 11276
Thanks in advance for any help
Jerry NY2KW
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
to clearing the setting every couple of months...
On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
> Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3 different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
>
> 73
> Jerry, NY2KW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken Winterling
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com>
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>
> Jerry,
>
> I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
> Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
>
> Ken
> WA2LBI
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
>> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
>> to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB adapter.
>> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
>>
>> 73
>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>> kb8tq
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
>> cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
>> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
>>> think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
>>> an
>>> i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
>>> sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
>>> within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
>>> few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
>>> RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
>>> - everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
>>> repeats
>> again.
>>>
>>>
>>> This log began with:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>
>>> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
>>> 1.196032 42.660358 8
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
>>> on
>>> 0 or 3
>>> Sats:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
>>> err:47933984999 ms
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>
>>> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
>>> 1.196165 42.362377 7
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>
>>> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
>>> 1.196165 83.500000 0
>>>
>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
>>> err:2001 ms
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
>>> while
>>> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
>>> finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
>> ending :
>>> #! year error: 60404
>>>
>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
>>> last=181406509000.000
>>> err:1601151229972001 ms
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>
>>> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
>>> 1.196117 42.588669 5
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>
>>> #
>>>
>>> # tow pps(sec) osc( ppb)
>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>
>>> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
>>> 1.185647 42.588669 0
>>>
>>> #! year error: 1814
>>>
>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
>>> err:-6406041597000 ms
>>>
>>> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
>> 1.196108
>>> 42.278618 0
>>>
>>> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
>>>
>>> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
>>>
>>> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
>>> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> ..
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
>>> 1.196070 40.071625 5
>>>
>>> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
>>>
>>> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK Discipline
>> OK
>>> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at tow
>>> 225825
>>>
>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
>>> 1.196070 44.131538 5
>>>
>>> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at tow
>>> 225825
>>>
>>> #! year error: 21719
>>>
>>> #! year error: 45931
>>>
>>> #! year error: 45932
>>>
>>> #! year error: 11276
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any help
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jerry NY2KW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>> and follow the instructions there.
>> _______________________________________________
>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>> and follow the instructions there.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m ailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow
>> the instructions there.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
>
--
Stephen Tompsett
KW
Ken Winterling
Wed, Aug 30, 2017 10:35 AM
You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in Windows
Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer to jump all
over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the computer; about
once/second. That was "fun" the first time I encountered it. It looks
like your PC has been infected with a virus.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett stephen@tompsett.net
wrote:
For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
to clearing the setting every couple of months...
On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power
settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had
a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3
different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has
counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended
for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if
the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
- everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in Windows
Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer to jump all
over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the computer; about
once/second. That was "fun" the first time I encountered it. It looks
like your PC has been infected with a virus.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett <stephen@tompsett.net>
wrote:
> For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
> disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
> Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
> prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
> assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
> gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
> to clearing the setting every couple of months...
>
>
> On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
> > Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power
> settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had
> a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3
> different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has
> counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended
> for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
> >
> > 73
> > Jerry, NY2KW
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken
> Winterling
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> time-nuts@febo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
> >
> > Jerry,
> >
> > I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if
> the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
> > Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
> adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
> switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
> >
> > Ken
> > WA2LBI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bob,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
> >> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
> >> to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB
> adapter.
> >> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
> >>
> >> 73
> >> Jerry, NY2KW
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
> >> kb8tq
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
> >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
> >> time-nuts@febo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
> >> cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
> >> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
> >>> think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
> >>> an
> >>> i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
> >>> sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
> >>> within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
> >>> few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
> >>> RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
> >>> - everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
> >>> repeats
> >> again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> This log began with:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
> ppb)
> >>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >>>
> >>> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
> >>> 1.196032 42.660358 8
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
> >>> on
> >>> 0 or 3
> >>> Sats:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
> >>> err:47933984999 ms
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
> ppb)
> >>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >>>
> >>> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
> >>> 1.196165 42.362377 7
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
> ppb)
> >>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >>>
> >>> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
> >>> 1.196165 83.500000 0
> >>>
> >>> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
> >>> err:2001 ms
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
> >>> while
> >>> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
> >>> finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
> >> ending :
> >>> #! year error: 60404
> >>>
> >>> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
> >>> last=181406509000.000
> >>> err:1601151229972001 ms
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
> ppb)
> >>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >>>
> >>> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
> >>> 1.196117 42.588669 5
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
> >>>
> >>> #
> >>>
> >>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
> ppb)
> >>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
> >>>
> >>> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
> >>> 1.185647 42.588669 0
> >>>
> >>> #! year error: 1814
> >>>
> >>> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
> >>> err:-6406041597000 ms
> >>>
> >>> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
> >> 1.196108
> >>> 42.278618 0
> >>>
> >>> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
> >>>
> >>> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
> >>>
> >>> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
> >>> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> ..
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
> >>> 1.196070 40.071625 5
> >>>
> >>> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
> >>>
> >>> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
> Discipline
> >> OK
> >>> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
> tow
> >>> 225825
> >>>
> >>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
> >>> 1.196070 44.131538 5
> >>>
> >>> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
> tow
> >>> 225825
> >>>
> >>> #! year error: 21719
> >>>
> >>> #! year error: 45931
> >>>
> >>> #! year error: 45932
> >>>
> >>> #! year error: 11276
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance for any help
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jerry NY2KW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> >>> and follow the instructions there.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> >> and follow the instructions there.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m ailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow
> >> the instructions there.
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> > and follow the instructions there.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> > and follow the instructions there.
> >
>
> --
> Stephen Tompsett
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
>
JS
Jerry Stern
Wed, Aug 30, 2017 1:52 PM
Thanks Ken, yea that was fun until i read aboit disabling it. Unfortunately not the problem. I swapped PC's and still happening so i am ledt with power supply, usb-serial adapter or Tbolt problems. In process of elimination now
Jerry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ken Winterling wa2lbi@gmail.com wrote:
You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in Windows
Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer to jump all
over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the computer; about
once/second. That was "fun" the first time I encountered it. It looks
like your PC has been infected with a virus.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett stephen@tompsett.net
wrote:
For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
to clearing the setting every couple of months...
On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power
settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had
a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3
different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has
counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended
for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if
the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
- everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Thanks Ken, yea that was fun until i read aboit disabling it. Unfortunately not the problem. I swapped PC's and still happening so i am ledt with power supply, usb-serial adapter or Tbolt problems. In process of elimination now
Jerry
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in Windows
> Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer to jump all
> over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the computer; about
> once/second. That was "fun" the first time I encountered it. It looks
> like your PC has been infected with a virus.
>
> Ken
> WA2LBI
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett <stephen@tompsett.net>
> wrote:
>
>> For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
>> disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
>> Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
>> prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
>> assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
>> gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
>> to clearing the setting every couple of months...
>>
>>
>>> On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
>>> Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power
>> settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had
>> a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3
>> different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has
>> counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended
>> for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken
>> Winterling
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>>
>>> Jerry,
>>>
>>> I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if
>> the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
>>> Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
>> adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
>> switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
>>>
>>> Ken
>>> WA2LBI
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
>>>> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
>>>> to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB
>> adapter.
>>>> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>>>> kb8tq
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>>>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
>>>> cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
>>>> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
>>>>> think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
>>>>> an
>>>>> i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
>>>>> sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
>>>>> within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
>>>>> few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
>>>>> RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
>>>>> - everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
>>>>> repeats
>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This log began with:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>> ppb)
>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>
>>>>> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
>>>>> 1.196032 42.660358 8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
>>>>> on
>>>>> 0 or 3
>>>>> Sats:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
>>>>> err:47933984999 ms
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>> ppb)
>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>
>>>>> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
>>>>> 1.196165 42.362377 7
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>> ppb)
>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>
>>>>> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
>>>>> 1.196165 83.500000 0
>>>>>
>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
>>>>> err:2001 ms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
>>>>> while
>>>>> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
>>>>> finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
>>>> ending :
>>>>> #! year error: 60404
>>>>>
>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
>>>>> last=181406509000.000
>>>>> err:1601151229972001 ms
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>> ppb)
>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>
>>>>> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
>>>>> 1.196117 42.588669 5
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>
>>>>> #
>>>>>
>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>> ppb)
>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>
>>>>> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
>>>>> 1.185647 42.588669 0
>>>>>
>>>>> #! year error: 1814
>>>>>
>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
>>>>> err:-6406041597000 ms
>>>>>
>>>>> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
>>>> 1.196108
>>>>> 42.278618 0
>>>>>
>>>>> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
>>>>>
>>>>> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
>>>>>
>>>>> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
>>>>> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> ..
>>>>>
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
>>>>> 1.196070 40.071625 5
>>>>>
>>>>> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
>>>>>
>>>>> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
>> Discipline
>>>> OK
>>>>> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
>> tow
>>>>> 225825
>>>>>
>>>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
>>>>> 1.196070 44.131538 5
>>>>>
>>>>> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
>> tow
>>>>> 225825
>>>>>
>>>>> #! year error: 21719
>>>>>
>>>>> #! year error: 45931
>>>>>
>>>>> #! year error: 45932
>>>>>
>>>>> #! year error: 11276
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jerry NY2KW
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m ailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow
>>>> the instructions there.
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Stephen Tompsett
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>> and follow the instructions there.
>>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
BK
Bob kb8tq
Wed, Aug 30, 2017 3:19 PM
Hi
If you have a second PC, there’s a real quick shortcut.
Make up a Y cable and log the output of the TBolt on the second
machine. If the TBolt really is sending junk, you’ll see it. If not, the
TBolt is ok. Swap the machine that is logging, if the same thing is still
true, it’s not the TBolt and it’s not the serial “stuff”.
Bob
On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Jerry Stern jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Thanks Ken, yea that was fun until i read aboit disabling it. Unfortunately not the problem. I swapped PC's and still happening so i am ledt with power supply, usb-serial adapter or Tbolt problems. In process of elimination now
Jerry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ken Winterling wa2lbi@gmail.com wrote:
You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in Windows
Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer to jump all
over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the computer; about
once/second. That was "fun" the first time I encountered it. It looks
like your PC has been infected with a virus.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett stephen@tompsett.net
wrote:
For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
to clearing the setting every couple of months...
On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power
settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had
a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3
different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has
counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended
for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if
the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
- everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Hi
If you have a second PC, there’s a real quick shortcut.
Make up a Y cable and log the output of the TBolt on the second
machine. If the TBolt really *is* sending junk, you’ll see it. If not, the
TBolt is ok. Swap the machine that is logging, if the same thing is still
true, it’s not the TBolt and it’s not the serial “stuff”.
Bob
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Jerry Stern <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken, yea that was fun until i read aboit disabling it. Unfortunately not the problem. I swapped PC's and still happening so i am ledt with power supply, usb-serial adapter or Tbolt problems. In process of elimination now
>
> Jerry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in Windows
>> Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer to jump all
>> over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the computer; about
>> once/second. That was "fun" the first time I encountered it. It looks
>> like your PC has been infected with a virus.
>>
>> Ken
>> WA2LBI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett <stephen@tompsett.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
>>> disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial Port
>>> Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This will help
>>> prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to them from being
>>> assumed to be a mouse or pointing device; Unfortunately this setting
>>> gets reset following most significant Windows updates, so you get used
>>> to clearing the setting every couple of months...
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
>>>> Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro, power
>>> settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought it had
>>> a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an adapter. I have 3
>>> different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use Prolific which I heard has
>>> counterfeits and driver problems. I just ordered an FTDI type recommended
>>> for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken
>>> Winterling
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>>>
>>>> Jerry,
>>>>
>>>> I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check if
>>> the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
>>>> Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my Prolific
>>> adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows - I
>>> switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>> WA2LBI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
>>>>> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from TBolt
>>>>> to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without the USB
>>> adapter.
>>>>> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob
>>>>> kb8tq
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>>>>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
>>>>> cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on either
>>>>> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing. I
>>>>>> think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC is
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The log
>>>>>> sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log shows
>>>>>> within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero. Then after a
>>>>>> few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted ending with bad
>>>>>> RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do nothing to the TBolt)
>>>>>> - everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
>>>>>> repeats
>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This log began with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
>>>>>> 1.196032 42.660358 8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some errors
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> 0 or 3
>>>>>> Sats:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
>>>>>> err:47933984999 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
>>>>>> 1.196165 42.362377 7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
>>>>>> 1.196165 83.500000 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
>>>>>> err:2001 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
>>>>>> finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor alarms
>>>>> ending :
>>>>>> #! year error: 60404
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
>>>>>> last=181406509000.000
>>>>>> err:1601151229972001 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
>>>>>> 1.196117 42.588669 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
>>>>>> 1.185647 42.588669 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 1814
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000 last=181406518001.000
>>>>>> err:-6406041597000 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
>>>>> 1.196108
>>>>>> 42.278618 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
>>>>>> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
>>>>>> 1.196070 40.071625 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
>>> Discipline
>>>>> OK
>>>>>> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
>>> tow
>>>>>> 225825
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
>>>>>> 1.196070 44.131538 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
>>> tow
>>>>>> 225825
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 21719
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 45931
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 45932
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 11276
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry NY2KW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m ailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow
>>>>> the instructions there.
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Tompsett
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>> and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
J
Jerry
Wed, Aug 30, 2017 5:26 PM
Hi Bob,
I have a Y 9pin serial splitter somewhere. When you say log do you mean using LH to write a raw file on both PC's simultaneously? Is serial comm between LH and PC all receive only - no handshaking that would get messed up with a split Y serial cable?
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:20 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
If you have a second PC, there’s a real quick shortcut.
Make up a Y cable and log the output of the TBolt on the second machine. If the TBolt really is sending junk, you’ll see it. If not, the TBolt is ok. Swap the machine that is logging, if the same thing is still true, it’s not the TBolt and it’s not the serial “stuff”.
Bob
On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Jerry Stern jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Thanks Ken, yea that was fun until i read aboit disabling it.
Unfortunately not the problem. I swapped PC's and still happening so
i am ledt with power supply, usb-serial adapter or Tbolt problems. In
process of elimination now
Jerry
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ken Winterling wa2lbi@gmail.com wrote:
You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in
Windows Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer
to jump all over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the
computer; about once/second. That was "fun" the first time I
encountered it. It looks like your PC has been infected with a virus.
Ken
WA2LBI
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett
stephen@tompsett.net
wrote:
For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial
Port Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This
will help prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to
them from being assumed to be a mouse or pointing device;
Unfortunately this setting gets reset following most significant
Windows updates, so you get used to clearing the setting every couple of months...
On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro,
power
settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought
it had a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an
adapter. I have 3 different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use
Prolific which I heard has counterfeits and driver problems. I just
ordered an FTDI type recommended for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Jerry,
I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check
if
the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my
Prolific
adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows -
I switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from
TBolt to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without
the USB
If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
73
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of
Bob kb8tq
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on
either
end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
Bob
On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry jsternmd@att.net wrote:
Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing.
I think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC
is an
i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The
log sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log
shows within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero.
Then after a few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted
ending with bad RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do
nothing to the TBolt)
- everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
repeats
This log began with:
14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
1.196032 42.660358 8
[similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some
errors on
0 or 3
Sats:
#! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
err:47933984999 ms
09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
1.196165 42.362377 7
14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
1.196165 83.500000 0
#! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
err:2001 ms
Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
while
3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor
alarms
#! year error: 60404
#! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
last=181406509000.000
err:1601151229972001 ms
13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
1.196117 42.588669 5
14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
tow pps(sec) osc(
dac(V) temp(C) sats
14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
1.185647 42.588669 0
#! year error: 1814
#! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000
last=181406518001.000
err:-6406041597000 ms
14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
42.278618 0
#! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
#! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
#! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
...
..
...
14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
1.196070 40.071625 5
#! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
#! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
225825
14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
1.196070 44.131538 5
#! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.
Hi Bob,
I have a Y 9pin serial splitter somewhere. When you say log do you mean using LH to write a raw file on both PC's simultaneously? Is serial comm between LH and PC all receive only - no handshaking that would get messed up with a split Y serial cable?
Jerry, NY2KW
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 11:20 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
Hi
If you have a second PC, there’s a real quick shortcut.
Make up a Y cable and log the output of the TBolt on the second machine. If the TBolt really *is* sending junk, you’ll see it. If not, the TBolt is ok. Swap the machine that is logging, if the same thing is still true, it’s not the TBolt and it’s not the serial “stuff”.
Bob
> On Aug 30, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Jerry Stern <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Ken, yea that was fun until i read aboit disabling it.
> Unfortunately not the problem. I swapped PC's and still happening so
> i am ledt with power supply, usb-serial adapter or Tbolt problems. In
> process of elimination now
>
> Jerry
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 30, 2017, at 6:35 AM, Ken Winterling <wa2lbi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> You also want to disable the "Microsoft Serial BallPoint" mouse in
>> Windows Device Manager. If left enabled it causes your mouse pointer
>> to jump all over the screen every time the TBOLT sends data to the
>> computer; about once/second. That was "fun" the first time I
>> encountered it. It looks like your PC has been infected with a virus.
>>
>> Ken
>> WA2LBI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 4:28 AM, Stephen Tompsett
>> <stephen@tompsett.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For FTDI serial ports, in addition to ensuring that USB suspend is
>>> disabled in advanced power properties, it's worth disabling Serial
>>> Port Enumeration in the advanced properties for the com port. This
>>> will help prevent FTDI ports with data being gratuitously sent to
>>> them from being assumed to be a mouse or pointing device;
>>> Unfortunately this setting gets reset following most significant
>>> Windows updates, so you get used to clearing the setting every couple of months...
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 29/08/2017 19:28, Jerry wrote:
>>>> Thanks to all. I am using a high end laptop running Windows 7 Pro,
>>>> power
>>> settings are all max'ed for performance - no sleep modes. I thought
>>> it had a direct DB-9 serial but it does not so have to use an
>>> adapter. I have 3 different manufacturers USB-Serial but all use
>>> Prolific which I heard has counterfeits and driver problems. I just
>>> ordered an FTDI type recommended for my Flex radio. Fingers crossed not the TBolt.
>>>>
>>>> 73
>>>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Ken
>>> Winterling
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:52 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>>>
>>>> Jerry,
>>>>
>>>> I agree, if you have a "real" RS-232 port available use it to check
>>>> if
>>> the TBOLT and LH communicate. If that works, then USB adapter is suspect.
>>>> Prolific has been problematic. When I had problems with my
>>>> Prolific
>>> adapters failing, usually after an "update" - particularly Windows -
>>> I switched to FTDI adapters and have never had a problem since.
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>> WA2LBI
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bob,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestions. I am using a Quadtech SS-100 direct
>>>>> USB-Serial cable with Prolific drivers as a direct connect from
>>>>> TBolt to PC. Maybe I should try a direct serial to serial without
>>>>> the USB
>>> adapter.
>>>>> If still an issue then I will reflow the DB9 connector in the TBolt.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73
>>>>> Jerry, NY2KW
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Bob kb8tq
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2017 12:08 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <
>>>>> time-nuts@febo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Bad TBolt Crashing LH?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> I would blame the usual “coms error” stuff and dig into that. Bum
>>>>> cable / loose cable is number one on that list. Connectors (on
>>>>> either
>>>>> end) coming unsoldered from the pc board would be next ….
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 29, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Jerry <jsternmd@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Need some more help figuring out why Lady Heather keeps crashing.
>>>>>> I think it may be a flaky Thunderbolt but I only own one. The PC
>>>>>> is an
>>>>>> i5 Intel with 8Gb memory and nothing running in background. The
>>>>>> log sequence before crash is first time stamp erros where the log
>>>>>> shows within 1 sec the TBolt jumps from 6 or 7 Sats to zero.
>>>>>> Then after a few more timestamp errors, the date gets corrupted
>>>>>> ending with bad RAM, Bad Osc, etc. If I open LH again (and do
>>>>>> nothing to the TBolt)
>>>>>> - everything looks good again for about 10-15 minutes and it all
>>>>>> repeats
>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This log began with:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 14:27:28.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:27:28 224866 -8.51365e-008 -0.023564
>>>>>> 1.196032 42.660358 8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [similar as line above.....for about 10-15 mins]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> After skipping some time stamps it becomes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it goes back to current UTC sometimes with 7 Sats some
>>>>>> errors on
>>>>>> 0 or 3
>>>>>> Sats:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=229340387000.000 last=181406402001.000
>>>>>> err:47933984999 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 09:39:47.000 UTC 07 Mar 2019 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 09:39:47 225605 -8.1407e-008 0.110356
>>>>>> 1.196165 42.362377 7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 14:39:50.000 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:39:50 225608 -8.08732e-008 0.106356
>>>>>> 1.196165 83.500000 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=181406392001.000 last=181406390000.000
>>>>>> err:2001 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then it goes into 'new receiver mode' and then 'new discipline mode'
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> 3-7 Sats are visible. This goes on for another few minutes until
>>>>>> finally it shows a series of further corruptions, with minor
>>>>>> alarms
>>>>> ending :
>>>>>> #! year error: 60404
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=1601332636481001.000
>>>>>> last=181406509000.000
>>>>>> err:1601151229972001 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 13:14:41.001 GPS 15 Feb 52756 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 13:14:41 225728 -6.68514e-008 0.141315
>>>>>> 1.196117 42.588669 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # 14:41:58.001 UTC 29 Aug 2017 - interval 1 seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # tow pps(sec) osc(
>>> ppb)
>>>>>> dac(V) temp(C) sats
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:41:58 225736 -6.60375e-008 0.094983
>>>>>> 1.185647 42.588669 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 1814
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! time stamp skipped. t=-6224635078999.000
>>>>>> last=181406518001.000
>>>>>> err:-6406041597000 ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:42:01 5898563 -1.49314e+006 -0.000000
>>>>> 1.196108
>>>>>> 42.278618 0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new gps status: TRAIM rejected fix: at tow 5898563
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new discipline state: ?0B?: at tow 5898563
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new minor alarm state 00E7: OSC age alarm Antenna open Survey
>>>>>> started No saved posn LEAP PENDING! : at tow 5898563
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.45551e-008 0.064319
>>>>>> 1.196070 40.071625 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new critical alarm state AC00: : at tow 225825
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new minor alarm state 0000: OSC age normal Antenna OK
>>> Discipline
>>>>> OK
>>>>>> Normal op mode Saved posn OK EEPROM data OK Almanac OK : at
>>> tow
>>>>>> 225825
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 14:43:27 225825 -5.44649e-008 0.071280
>>>>>> 1.196070 44.131538 5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! new critical alarm state B375: ROM:BAD Power:BAD OSC: BAD: at
>>> tow
>>>>>> 225825
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 21719
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 45931
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 45932
>>>>>>
>>>>>> #! year error: 11276
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry NY2KW
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go
>>>>>> to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m ailman/listinfo/time-nuts and
>>>>> follow the instructions there.
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/
>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>>>> and follow the instructions there.
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Stephen Tompsett
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow
>>> the instructions there.
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>> and follow the instructions there.
>
> _______________________________________________
> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to
> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> and follow the instructions there.
_______________________________________________
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
and follow the instructions there.