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Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian cyberweapon

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bg
Mon, Aug 14, 2017 10:43 AM

Hi Martin,
No there was also a SDR hack to spoof.
http://www.rtl-sdr.com/cheating-at-pokemon-go-with-a-hackrf-and-gps-spoofing/

     Björn

Sent from my smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Martin Burnicki martin.burnicki@burnicki.net Date: 14/08/2017  11:42  (GMT+01:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian
  cyberweapon
Clint Jay wrote:

Absolutely, their use of it was for something trivial and my reason for
using that example was to show how 'simple' and available the technology is
if a couple of students could do it with lab equipment that anyone can buy
(obviously you'd need deep pockets).

I just searched for "Pokémon GO GPS spoofing" on the 'net.

Looks like this was just a hack in Android where apps were provided with
a spoofed position from the hack instead of the true position determined
by the GPS/GNSS receiver.

So this is quite a different thing than spoofing the real GPS signals,
and it only affects the devices which have that hack installed.


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Hi Martin, No there was also a SDR hack to spoof. http://www.rtl-sdr.com/cheating-at-pokemon-go-with-a-hackrf-and-gps-spoofing/ --      Björn Sent from my smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: Martin Burnicki <martin.burnicki@burnicki.net> Date: 14/08/2017 11:42 (GMT+01:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Ships fooled in GPS spoofing attack suggest Russian   cyberweapon Clint Jay wrote: > Absolutely, their use of it was for something trivial and my reason for > using that example was to show how 'simple' and available the technology is > if a couple of students could do it with lab equipment that anyone can buy > (obviously you'd need deep pockets). I just searched for "Pokémon GO GPS spoofing" on the 'net. Looks like this was just a hack in Android where apps were provided with a spoofed position from the hack instead of the true position determined by the GPS/GNSS receiver. So this is quite a different thing than spoofing the real GPS signals, and it only affects the devices which have that hack installed. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
MB
Martin Burnicki
Mon, Aug 14, 2017 11:18 AM

Hi Björn,

bg wrote:

This sounds indeed like a nice way to test if a real spoofing approach
is working properly, so it could also be used to do really evil things.

But of course it's a nice way to demonstrate how easy it's possible.

Thanks for the pointer.

Martin

Hi Björn, bg wrote: > Hi Martin, > No there was also a SDR hack to spoof. > http://www.rtl-sdr.com/cheating-at-pokemon-go-with-a-hackrf-and-gps-spoofing/ This sounds indeed like a nice way to test if a real spoofing approach is working properly, so it could also be used to do really evil things. But of course it's a nice way to demonstrate how easy it's possible. Thanks for the pointer. Martin