Joe, your 335 is better than my 332D was -- zero stability was the most annoying, since there really wasn't any stability, although AC noise wasn't a big problem -- as Greg points out, using longish integration times on the meter really helps with that. I tried a variety of solutions, and while I got some improvement, I didn't get what I wanted. Then I picked up a 5440B, and that basically solved my issues with stability.
A battery has low AC noise -- just basically the Johnson noise of its source resistance, which for a D cell is pretty low. As you note, with batteries (or Weston/Eppley cells) it's the DC drift, including temperature sensitivity, that gets you.
At first blush, I like Warren's little zener circuit overall as a very simple and effective way to get low-noise, low-drift DC of a known value -- add a chopper amp like an LT1150 and a couple of wire-wound low-TC resistors and that's a great 10V source.
Dick
On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:12 PM, volt-nuts-request@febo.com wrote:
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Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:28:01 -0500
From: "J. L. Trantham" jltran@att.net
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Fluke 335A
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My 335A is, seemingly, behaving but I have noticed two issues.
First, there is a slow fluctuation in the 'zero' reading and requires
adjustment every day or so to make it read 0.00000+/-.
Second, once adjusted, when set to 0.123456 volts, it fluctuates 2 or 3 uV
when monitored on an HP 3478A.
Are these behaviors normal? If not, what suggestions are there to resolve
this?
Thanks in advance.
Joe
Joe, your 335 is better than my 332D was -- zero stability was the most annoying, since there really wasn't any stability, although AC noise wasn't a big problem -- as Greg points out, using longish integration times on the meter really helps with that. I tried a variety of solutions, and while I got some improvement, I didn't get what I wanted. Then I picked up a 5440B, and that basically solved my issues with stability.
A battery has low AC noise -- just basically the Johnson noise of its source resistance, which for a D cell is pretty low. As you note, with batteries (or Weston/Eppley cells) it's the DC drift, including temperature sensitivity, that gets you.
At first blush, I like Warren's little zener circuit overall as a very simple and effective way to get low-noise, low-drift DC of a known value -- add a chopper amp like an LT1150 and a couple of wire-wound low-TC resistors and that's a great 10V source.
Dick
On Sep 26, 2011, at 9:12 PM, volt-nuts-request@febo.com wrote:
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:28:01 -0500
> From: "J. L. Trantham" <jltran@att.net>
> To: <volt-nuts@febo.com>
> Subject: [volt-nuts] Fluke 335A
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> My 335A is, seemingly, behaving but I have noticed two issues.
>
>
>
> First, there is a slow fluctuation in the 'zero' reading and requires
> adjustment every day or so to make it read 0.00000+/-.
>
> Second, once adjusted, when set to 0.123456 volts, it fluctuates 2 or 3 uV
> when monitored on an HP 3478A.
>
> Are these behaviors normal? If not, what suggestions are there to resolve
> this?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Joe