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Re: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard

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wb6bnq
Mon, May 18, 2015 9:29 PM

Hi Roy,

I hate to tell you but the hp-735 does not compare to the Fluke 731.
The hp-735 had a drift that was constant.  This information came from a
friend of mine that was responsible for the US Navy's Primary DC voltage
standard at their Primary Lab in San Diego, CA in the 1970's.  The
actual drift rate I do not recall anymore, but it was significantly
higher than the any drift in the Fluke.

Bill....WB6BNQ

R.Phillips wrote:

-----Original Message----- From: gilbenl@nickgilbert.org
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:13 AM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard

Recently acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Replaced some caps,
but its otherwise clean and has since been powered. Read a post
recently about a 735A oven failure that included a teardown that
revealed why HP states the oven/ref assembly a non-serviceable part.
The failure in this person's device was the heater, specifically the
thermistor.

Anyone on this board have a 735A in use? Do you keep it powered 24/7
or as-needed? Any failures/repairs/mods?

Best
Nick


Hi Nick
I also very recently  acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Mine
has a Power Transformer with the centre tap 'open circuit' - this I
guess was the result of a failure in the pre-regulator circuit which
in turn caused a resistor to 'burn-out'. I have 'hooked-up' external
positive and negative rails and the unit works, including the oven !
So, I will rebuild this to the later and I think final specification -
which eliminates the 'pre-regulator' circuit. Otherwise the unit is in
excellent condition, in keeping with HP of that period, and probably
superior to the Fluke 731B. I gather that these are quite rare items
now. Let us know how you get on with the 'project'
Regards
Roy Phillips.


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Hi Roy, I hate to tell you but the hp-735 does not compare to the Fluke 731. The hp-735 had a drift that was constant. This information came from a friend of mine that was responsible for the US Navy's Primary DC voltage standard at their Primary Lab in San Diego, CA in the 1970's. The actual drift rate I do not recall anymore, but it was significantly higher than the any drift in the Fluke. Bill....WB6BNQ R.Phillips wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- From: gilbenl@nickgilbert.org > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:13 AM > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard > > Recently acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Replaced some caps, > but its otherwise clean and has since been powered. Read a post > recently about a 735A oven failure that included a teardown that > revealed why HP states the oven/ref assembly a non-serviceable part. > The failure in this person's device was the heater, specifically the > thermistor. > > Anyone on this board have a 735A in use? Do you keep it powered 24/7 > or as-needed? Any failures/repairs/mods? > > Best > Nick > ______ > > Hi Nick > I also very recently acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Mine > has a Power Transformer with the centre tap 'open circuit' - this I > guess was the result of a failure in the pre-regulator circuit which > in turn caused a resistor to 'burn-out'. I have 'hooked-up' external > positive and negative rails and the unit works, including the oven ! > So, I will rebuild this to the later and I think final specification - > which eliminates the 'pre-regulator' circuit. Otherwise the unit is in > excellent condition, in keeping with HP of that period, and probably > superior to the Fluke 731B. I gather that these are quite rare items > now. Let us know how you get on with the 'project' > Regards > Roy Phillips. > > > _________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
R
R.Phillips
Tue, May 19, 2015 8:36 AM

Hi Bill
Well I suppose I should have guessed it - Fluke are probably the # 1 when it
comes to DC 'Standards'  I had never encountered an HP-735 before and this
one is in overall good condition - I will complete the restoration and keep
it as a 'collectors item (its not too big!) As for the fluke range, I have
two 731B's and better, a Fluke 732A which has been running non-stop for more
than a year - it now reads the same on my HP 3458A , which is still in
calibration. I agree that the Fluke 731B is a good standard for its size,
pity about the 'poor' battery back-up circuitry, and the NI-CADs which have
damaged so many. The other shortcoming was the rotary switch - it would have
been better with a set of terminals for each range.
Regards
Roy

From: wb6bnq
selection
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 10:29 PM
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard

Hi Roy,

I hate to tell you but the hp-735 does not compare to the Fluke 731.
The hp-735 had a drift that was constant.  This information came from a
friend of mine that was responsible for the US Navy's Primary DC voltage
standard at their Primary Lab in San Diego, CA in the 1970's.  The
actual drift rate I do not recall anymore, but it was significantly
higher than the any drift in the Fluke.

Bill....WB6BNQ

R.Phillips wrote:

-----Original Message----- From: gilbenl@nickgilbert.org
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:13 AM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard

Recently acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Replaced some caps, but
its otherwise clean and has since been powered. Read a post recently about
a 735A oven failure that included a teardown that revealed why HP states
the oven/ref assembly a non-serviceable part. The failure in this person's
device was the heater, specifically the thermistor.

Anyone on this board have a 735A in use? Do you keep it powered 24/7 or
as-needed? Any failures/repairs/mods?

Best
Nick


Hi Nick
I also very recently  acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Mine has a
Power Transformer with the centre tap 'open circuit' - this I guess was
the result of a failure in the pre-regulator circuit which in turn caused
a resistor to 'burn-out'. I have 'hooked-up' external positive and
negative rails and the unit works, including the oven !  So, I will
rebuild this to the later and I think final specification - which
eliminates the 'pre-regulator' circuit. Otherwise the unit is in excellent
condition, in keeping with HP of that period, and probably superior to the
Fluke 731B. I gather that these are quite rare items now. Let us know how
you get on with the 'project'
Regards
Roy Phillips.


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Hi Bill Well I suppose I should have guessed it - Fluke are probably the # 1 when it comes to DC 'Standards' I had never encountered an HP-735 before and this one is in overall good condition - I will complete the restoration and keep it as a 'collectors item (its not too big!) As for the fluke range, I have two 731B's and better, a Fluke 732A which has been running non-stop for more than a year - it now reads the same on my HP 3458A , which is still in calibration. I agree that the Fluke 731B is a good standard for its size, pity about the 'poor' battery back-up circuitry, and the NI-CADs which have damaged so many. The other shortcoming was the rotary switch - it would have been better with a set of terminals for each range. Regards Roy From: wb6bnq selection -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 10:29 PM To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard Hi Roy, I hate to tell you but the hp-735 does not compare to the Fluke 731. The hp-735 had a drift that was constant. This information came from a friend of mine that was responsible for the US Navy's Primary DC voltage standard at their Primary Lab in San Diego, CA in the 1970's. The actual drift rate I do not recall anymore, but it was significantly higher than the any drift in the Fluke. Bill....WB6BNQ R.Phillips wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- From: gilbenl@nickgilbert.org > Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 4:13 AM > To: volt-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] HP 735A DC Transfer Standard > > Recently acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Replaced some caps, but > its otherwise clean and has since been powered. Read a post recently about > a 735A oven failure that included a teardown that revealed why HP states > the oven/ref assembly a non-serviceable part. The failure in this person's > device was the heater, specifically the thermistor. > > Anyone on this board have a 735A in use? Do you keep it powered 24/7 or > as-needed? Any failures/repairs/mods? > > Best > Nick > ______ > > Hi Nick > I also very recently acquired a HP 735A DC Transfer Standard. Mine has a > Power Transformer with the centre tap 'open circuit' - this I guess was > the result of a failure in the pre-regulator circuit which in turn caused > a resistor to 'burn-out'. I have 'hooked-up' external positive and > negative rails and the unit works, including the oven ! So, I will > rebuild this to the later and I think final specification - which > eliminates the 'pre-regulator' circuit. Otherwise the unit is in excellent > condition, in keeping with HP of that period, and probably superior to the > Fluke 731B. I gather that these are quite rare items now. Let us know how > you get on with the 'project' > Regards > Roy Phillips. > > > _________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.