Re: TNS-BUF Amplifier
--Jim Robbins wrote:
Many thanks for your helpful TN work to John A. , Dr. Bruce and John M.
Ordered 3 pieces.
I second the thanks and ordered 2 pieces
--Jim Stone
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1. Re: Need Time Help (Mark Spencer)
2. TNS-BUF Amplifier (James Robbins)
3. Re: Need Time Help (Chris Caudle)
Message: 1
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 07:35:21 -0700
From: Mark Spencer mark@alignedsolutions.com
To: Peter Torry peter.torry@talktalk.net, Discussion of precise time
and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need Time Help
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Yes I'd be curious in knowing more about this as well. I've often
observed time differences from other stations of several tenths of a second
when running the JT modes on HF. Although I am beginner at EME I have made
a couple of EME (earth moon earth) JT65 contacts on VHF without taking any
special measures to sync the time on a Windows XP machine beyond using the
built in features of the operating system to sync to my own local time
server which was in turned synced to the 1 pps output of a GPS timing
receiver.
I've also made FSK441 contacts (another related form of amateur radio
digital communications) in the field without any time reference besides the
free running clock in my Windows xp laptop. If there is a significant
performance improvement to be had with these modes by having time nuts
levels of timing precision on my computers I'd be very interested to know
more.
All the best
Mark S
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On Oct 5, 2016, at 6:18 AM, Peter Torry via time-nuts <
time-nuts@febo.com> wrote:
I must admit to being rather puzzled at the sub microsecond timing
requirement as I use ntp to set the W7 clock in my computer and have not
had any issues. In fact less than one second is OK for the usual two minute
periods that are required to allow for the Faraday rotation. Although I use
a GPSDO for a frequency reference I find JT software reasonably tolerant of
frequency. As I may be missing something I would welcome observations on
how important the period timing requirement is, you never know I might get
more contacts.
Regards
Peter
On 05/10/2016 12:50, Graham / KE9H wrote:
For the group. This ham is trying to work EME. Earth-Moon-Earth
propagation
path. Aka, "moonbounce."
He is trying to time synchronize a system, where the other station he is
communicating
with can be any other place on the Earth that can also see the Moon.
So the system time sync is for a little bit tougher case than a local
area
network.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:56:05 -0400
From: "James Robbins" jsrobbins@earthlink.net
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Subject: [time-nuts] TNS-BUF Amplifier
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Many thanks for your helpful TN work to John A. , Dr. Bruce and John M.
Ordered 3 pieces.
73,
Jim Robbins
N1JR
Message: 3
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 10:19:10 -0500
From: "Chris Caudle" chris@chriscaudle.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need Time Help
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On Wed, October 5, 2016 6:14 am, Bob Camp wrote:
If you buy a GPS receiver and get it set up for timing, just use it.
Then there is no need for NTP at all.
Is there another way to get computer system time set from a GPS receiver
other than NTP?
In the case that the system clock is controlled by GPSDO and the seconds
delineated by PPS, there should be no need for the NTP clock discipline
code, but I am not aware of any way to inform the NTP daemon that no
disciplining is needed. Presumably the code should determine that
eventually.
In the case that the system clock is free running, the clock discipline is
still needed, but I found a note in one of the NTP documents (that I can
no longer locate at the moment) that stated something to the effect that
NTP did not run well as it could with a single reference, which would seem
to directly affect the case where a GPS receiver is the only reference.
That document had only that short note, no details on why or specifics of
behavior.
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Chris Caudle
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