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Warning about "slef-powered" RS-422 to RS-232 converers

MS
Mark Sims
Tue, May 30, 2017 5:20 PM

While playing with the RFTG-m GPSO I tried using a couple of RS-422 to RS-232 converters.  These converters can be externally powered or "self-powered" by the RS-232 signals.

Both units worked fine as long as the RFTG was only sending the 22 character ASCII time code message once per second.  But when the RFTG was sending binary data along with the time code message they flaked out.  Apparently the converters power generator can't generate enough power when they are handling a lot of data.

One of the converters I tried was made by Hexin.  The other was a no-name Chinese mystery unit.  Also some USB serial port dongles can't properly power the converters no matter what data they are processing.

While playing with the RFTG-m GPSO I tried using a couple of RS-422 to RS-232 converters. These converters can be externally powered or "self-powered" by the RS-232 signals. Both units worked fine as long as the RFTG was only sending the 22 character ASCII time code message once per second. But when the RFTG was sending binary data along with the time code message they flaked out. Apparently the converters power generator can't generate enough power when they are handling a lot of data. One of the converters I tried was made by Hexin. The other was a no-name Chinese mystery unit. Also some USB serial port dongles can't properly power the converters no matter what data they are processing.
BK
Bob kb8tq
Wed, May 31, 2017 10:40 AM

Hi

Some of them need a pair of control lines driven in opposite states to work well. Others need the control lines
driven to a + voltage. Most are unhappy with < 5V signaling. Without a hammer and a microscope it’s generally
a bit tough to figure out what the constraints are :)

Bob

On May 30, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

While playing with the RFTG-m GPSO I tried using a couple of RS-422 to RS-232 converters.  These converters can be externally powered or "self-powered" by the RS-232 signals.

Both units worked fine as long as the RFTG was only sending the 22 character ASCII time code message once per second.  But when the RFTG was sending binary data along with the time code message they flaked out.  Apparently the converters power generator can't generate enough power when they are handling a lot of data.

One of the converters I tried was made by Hexin.  The other was a no-name Chinese mystery unit.  Also some USB serial port dongles can't properly power the converters no matter what data they are processing.


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Hi Some of them need a pair of control lines driven in opposite states to work well. Others need the control lines driven to a + voltage. Most are unhappy with < 5V signaling. Without a hammer and a microscope it’s generally a bit tough to figure out what the constraints are :) Bob > On May 30, 2017, at 1:20 PM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > > While playing with the RFTG-m GPSO I tried using a couple of RS-422 to RS-232 converters. These converters can be externally powered or "self-powered" by the RS-232 signals. > > Both units worked fine as long as the RFTG was only sending the 22 character ASCII time code message once per second. But when the RFTG was sending binary data along with the time code message they flaked out. Apparently the converters power generator can't generate enough power when they are handling a lot of data. > > One of the converters I tried was made by Hexin. The other was a no-name Chinese mystery unit. Also some USB serial port dongles can't properly power the converters no matter what data they are processing. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.