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Re: [time-nuts] Satellite TV messed up, how is GPS time

W
W4wj@aol.com
Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:19 PM

No problems here with FOX on Dish, Ch 205

Don
W4WJ

In a message dated 11/4/2016 1:45:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
bill.iaxs@pobox.com writes:

Satellite TV (Dish, Direct, etc) has been having trouble for 10  hours or
so, sometimes losing some channels and occasionally all of  them.

Fox News is consistently down, so it could have a human cause,  but Space
Weather says we have unusual solar activity.

I no longer  have GPS time receivers, so I wonder how GPS is doing.

Thanks for any  comments.

Bill  Hawkins


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No problems here with FOX on Dish, Ch 205 Don W4WJ In a message dated 11/4/2016 1:45:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, bill.iaxs@pobox.com writes: Satellite TV (Dish, Direct, etc) has been having trouble for 10 hours or so, sometimes losing some channels and occasionally all of them. Fox News is consistently down, so it could have a human cause, but Space Weather says we have unusual solar activity. I no longer have GPS time receivers, so I wonder how GPS is doing. Thanks for any comments. Bill Hawkins _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Norm n3ykf
Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:47 PM

Tmobile clock on cell off. Garmin fenix3 watch is correct.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Don Murray via time-nuts
time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

No problems here with FOX on Dish, Ch 205

Don
W4WJ

In a message dated 11/4/2016 1:45:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
bill.iaxs@pobox.com writes:

Satellite TV (Dish, Direct, etc) has been having trouble for 10  hours or
so, sometimes losing some channels and occasionally all of  them.

Fox News is consistently down, so it could have a human cause,  but Space
Weather says we have unusual solar activity.

I no longer  have GPS time receivers, so I wonder how GPS is doing.

Thanks for any  comments.

Bill  Hawkins


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Tmobile clock on cell off. Garmin fenix3 watch is correct. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Don Murray via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > No problems here with FOX on Dish, Ch 205 > > Don > W4WJ > > > > In a message dated 11/4/2016 1:45:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > bill.iaxs@pobox.com writes: > > Satellite TV (Dish, Direct, etc) has been having trouble for 10 hours or > so, sometimes losing some channels and occasionally all of them. > > Fox News is consistently down, so it could have a human cause, but Space > Weather says we have unusual solar activity. > > I no longer have GPS time receivers, so I wonder how GPS is doing. > > Thanks for any comments. > > Bill Hawkins > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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paul swed
Fri, Nov 4, 2016 8:52 PM

Ummmm with respect to direct TV is it the noramal two time per year sun
outage its about the right time.
Regards
Paul.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Norm n3ykf normanlizeth@gmail.com wrote:

Tmobile clock on cell off. Garmin fenix3 watch is correct.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Don Murray via time-nuts
time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

No problems here with FOX on Dish, Ch 205

Don
W4WJ

In a message dated 11/4/2016 1:45:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
bill.iaxs@pobox.com writes:

Satellite TV (Dish, Direct, etc) has been having trouble for 10  hours or
so, sometimes losing some channels and occasionally all of  them.

Fox News is consistently down, so it could have a human cause,  but Space
Weather says we have unusual solar activity.

I no longer  have GPS time receivers, so I wonder how GPS is doing.

Thanks for any  comments.

Bill  Hawkins


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Ummmm with respect to direct TV is it the noramal two time per year sun outage its about the right time. Regards Paul. On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@gmail.com> wrote: > Tmobile clock on cell off. Garmin fenix3 watch is correct. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Don Murray via time-nuts > <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > > No problems here with FOX on Dish, Ch 205 > > > > Don > > W4WJ > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/4/2016 1:45:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > bill.iaxs@pobox.com writes: > > > > Satellite TV (Dish, Direct, etc) has been having trouble for 10 hours or > > so, sometimes losing some channels and occasionally all of them. > > > > Fox News is consistently down, so it could have a human cause, but Space > > Weather says we have unusual solar activity. > > > > I no longer have GPS time receivers, so I wonder how GPS is doing. > > > > Thanks for any comments. > > > > Bill Hawkins > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Peter Vince
Fri, Nov 4, 2016 10:02 PM

I don't think so Paul.  That happens about the 12th of October in London
(51.5° North), a few days later at higher latitudes, and a few days earlier
at lower latitudes.  Cairo, for instance, on about 30° North, was around
the 5th of October.

 Peter

On 4 November 2016 at 20:52, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Ummmm with respect to direct TV is it the noramal two time per year sun
outage its about the right time.
Regards
Paul.

I don't think so Paul. That happens about the 12th of October in London (51.5° North), a few days later at higher latitudes, and a few days earlier at lower latitudes. Cairo, for instance, on about 30° North, was around the 5th of October. Peter On 4 November 2016 at 20:52, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > Ummmm with respect to direct TV is it the noramal two time per year sun > outage its about the right time. > Regards > Paul. > >
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David I. Emery
Fri, Nov 4, 2016 10:11 PM

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 04:52:25PM -0400, paul swed wrote:

Ummmm with respect to direct TV is it the noramal two time per year sun
outage its about the right time.
Regards
Paul.

Nope.... way off...

The solar outage season (a loss of signal for about 10 minutes

max when the sun is directly behind the satellite as seen from the dish)
runs from very late Sept (deep south) to about Oct 15 or so (Canada).

Around here in Boston the max is either the 9th or 10th of October

depending on which satellite you are talking about.  Both DirecTV and
dish use more than one orbital location so there are outages of DIFFERENT
channels at different times during the outage seasons in spring and fall.
This of course somewhat depends on the level of service you have, such
as whether you get the entire HD package or International channels or
your local TV stations, and what market area you are located in.

Some outage happens for a window of maybe 4-6 days centered on

the max... but because of the cliff effect with FEC corrected digital
modulations that means that reception will be close to perfect until the
S/N gets just a little worse and then it fails completely - this may
almost not be noticeable except when the sun is right behind the
satellite.

--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 04:52:25PM -0400, paul swed wrote: > Ummmm with respect to direct TV is it the noramal two time per year sun > outage its about the right time. > Regards > Paul. Nope.... way off... The solar outage season (a loss of signal for about 10 minutes max when the sun is directly behind the satellite as seen from the dish) runs from very late Sept (deep south) to about Oct 15 or so (Canada). Around here in Boston the max is either the 9th or 10th of October depending on which satellite you are talking about. Both DirecTV and dish use more than one orbital location so there are outages of DIFFERENT channels at different times during the outage seasons in spring and fall. This of course somewhat depends on the level of service you have, such as whether you get the entire HD package or International channels or your local TV stations, and what market area you are located in. Some outage happens for a window of maybe 4-6 days centered on the max... but because of the cliff effect with FEC corrected digital modulations that means that reception will be close to perfect until the S/N gets just a little worse and then it fails completely - this may almost not be noticeable except when the sun is right behind the satellite. -- Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493 "An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten 'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."
DI
David I. Emery
Fri, Nov 4, 2016 10:23 PM

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 06:11:48PM -0400, David I. Emery wrote:

The solar outage season (a loss of signal for about 10 minutes

max when the sun is directly behind the satellite as seen from the dish)
runs from very late Sept (deep south) to about Oct 15 or so (Canada).

Try <http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/suninterference.php>

--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com  DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."

On Fri, Nov 04, 2016 at 06:11:48PM -0400, David I. Emery wrote: > > The solar outage season (a loss of signal for about 10 minutes > max when the sun is directly behind the satellite as seen from the dish) > runs from very late Sept (deep south) to about Oct 15 or so (Canada). Try <http://www.satellite-calculations.com/Satellite/suninterference.php> -- Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493 "An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten 'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."