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Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081

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Rick Bale
Wed, Apr 8, 2020 5:23 PM

Thank you David that is good information.  This is good news is I have the
correct PROMs.  My board is the 70810504X with 2564 PROMs.  Joe has
programmed up a new set of PROM's plus I have the old ones.

I'll reassemble the unit after doing an alcohol scrub down on all the
boards because there evidence of water damage on the top cover's shield.
It's turned the shield green and has a mildew smell. Joe saw some corrosion
on the old PROMs too.  In the long run I'll need to replace the cover's
inside shield.  I should be able order a custom one from a PCB shop as it's
just a large un-etched tin coated PCB board.

If the cleaning doesn't work then it seems like I need to find a test point
to monitor the boot up data stream.  Does that seem like a good place
to start since power rails are good? Is it best to watch it from the GPIB
connection?

Rick

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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:17:52 +0100
From: "David C. Partridge" david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'"
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There is a downloadable high quality scan of the Service Manual which I
produced a while ago, that you can download from here:

<
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071
%20and%207081
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081

It has the schematics for both the early (7504) and late (7514) earthy
processor boards, and contains numerous corrections to the text and parts
lists.  The schematics have been cleaned up and corrected where necessary.

You can tell which ROMS the earthy processor uses based on the board
number:
Board 70817504 uses 2564s while 70817514 uses 2764s.

If you use the wrong ROMs - it won't work!

The Test Spec document is also of interest.

Keep well
D

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of
Rick
Bale
Sent: 08 April 2020 13:45
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081

All,

Here's an update on my 7081 that hangs during boot up


Message: 3
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:29:09 +0100
From: "David C. Partridge" david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'"
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 001b01d60da9$b0094540$101bcfc0$@perdrix.co.uk
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Grrr why was my link split across two lines - it was sent as one line ...

Be warned you'll need to re-constitute the link ...

David

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David
C. Partridge
Sent: 08 April 2020 14:18
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081

There is a downloadable high quality scan of the Service Manual which I
produced a while ago, that you can download from here:

<
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071
%20and%207081
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081

It has the schematics for both the early (7504) and late (7514) earthy
processor boards, and contains numerous corrections to the text and parts
lists.  The schematics have been cleaned up and corrected where necessary.

You can tell which ROMS the earthy processor uses based on the board
number:
Board 70817504 uses 2564s while 70817514 uses 2764s.

If you use the wrong ROMs - it won't work!

The Test Spec document is also of interest.

Keep well
D

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of
Rick
Bale
Sent: 08 April 2020 13:45
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081

All,

Here's an update on my 7081 that hangs during boot up


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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:33:48 +0000
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Rick,

I have two 7081?s with the relevant configuration as follows:

S\N 1395  with board 70817514 and 2764 ROMS
S\N 415 with board 70817504 and 2564 ROMS

I can also confirm that swapping ROMS between the board revisions does not
work.

Hope this helps.

Shaun Merrigan
https://www.shaunmerrigan.info


From: volt-nuts volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com on behalf of David C.
Partridge david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:17:52 AM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081

There is a downloadable high quality scan of the Service Manual which I
produced a while ago, that you can download from here:

<
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071
%20and%207081
https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081

It has the schematics for both the early (7504) and late (7514) earthy
processor boards, and contains numerous corrections to the text and parts
lists.  The schematics have been cleaned up and corrected where necessary.

You can tell which ROMS the earthy processor uses based on the board
number:
Board 70817504 uses 2564s while 70817514 uses 2764s.

If you use the wrong ROMs - it won't work!

The Test Spec document is also of interest.

Keep well
D

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Rick
Bale
Sent: 08 April 2020 13:45
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081

All,

Here's an update on my 7081 that hangs during boot up


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Thank you David that is good information. This is good news is I have the correct PROMs. My board is the 70810504X with 2564 PROMs. Joe has programmed up a new set of PROM's plus I have the old ones. I'll reassemble the unit after doing an alcohol scrub down on all the boards because there evidence of water damage on the top cover's shield. It's turned the shield green and has a mildew smell. Joe saw some corrosion on the old PROMs too. In the long run I'll need to replace the cover's inside shield. I should be able order a custom one from a PCB shop as it's just a large un-etched tin coated PCB board. If the cleaning doesn't work then it seems like I need to find a test point to monitor the boot up data stream. Does that seem like a good place to start since power rails are good? Is it best to watch it from the GPIB connection? Rick > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:17:52 +0100 > From: "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> > To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'" > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > Message-ID: <000d01d60da8$1ca94350$55fbc9f0$@perdrix.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > There is a downloadable high quality scan of the Service Manual which I > produced a while ago, that you can download from here: > > < > https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071 > %20and%207081 > <https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081> > > > > It has the schematics for both the early (7504) and late (7514) earthy > processor boards, and contains numerous corrections to the text and parts > lists. The schematics have been cleaned up and corrected where necessary. > > You can tell which ROMS the earthy processor uses based on the board > number: > Board 70817504 uses 2564s while 70817514 uses 2764s. > > If you use the wrong ROMs - it won't work! > > The Test Spec document is also of interest. > > Keep well > D > > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > Rick > Bale > Sent: 08 April 2020 13:45 > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > > All, > > Here's an update on my 7081 that hangs during boot up > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 14:29:09 +0100 > From: "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> > To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'" > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > Message-ID: <001b01d60da9$b0094540$101bcfc0$@perdrix.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Grrr why was my link split across two lines - it was sent as one line ... > > Be warned you'll need to re-constitute the link ... > > David > > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > David > C. Partridge > Sent: 08 April 2020 14:18 > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > > There is a downloadable high quality scan of the Service Manual which I > produced a while ago, that you can download from here: > > < > https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071 > %20and%207081 > <https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081> > > > > It has the schematics for both the early (7504) and late (7514) earthy > processor boards, and contains numerous corrections to the text and parts > lists. The schematics have been cleaned up and corrected where necessary. > > You can tell which ROMS the earthy processor uses based on the board > number: > Board 70817504 uses 2564s while 70817514 uses 2764s. > > If you use the wrong ROMs - it won't work! > > The Test Spec document is also of interest. > > Keep well > D > > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > Rick > Bale > Sent: 08 April 2020 13:45 > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > > All, > > Here's an update on my 7081 that hangs during boot up > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:33:48 +0000 > From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com> > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > Message-ID: > < > MWHPR22MB0142778E26799873FC21114BDAC00@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Rick, > > I have two 7081?s with the relevant configuration as follows: > > S\N 1395 with board 70817514 and 2764 ROMS > S\N 415 with board 70817504 and 2564 ROMS > > I can also confirm that swapping ROMS between the board revisions does not > work. > > Hope this helps. > > Shaun Merrigan > https://www.shaunmerrigan.info > > ________________________________ > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of David C. > Partridge <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, April 8, 2020 7:17:52 AM > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > > There is a downloadable high quality scan of the Service Manual which I > produced a while ago, that you can download from here: > > < > https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071 > %20and%207081 > <https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081> > > > > It has the schematics for both the early (7504) and late (7514) earthy > processor boards, and contains numerous corrections to the text and parts > lists. The schematics have been cleaned up and corrected where necessary. > > You can tell which ROMS the earthy processor uses based on the board > number: > Board 70817504 uses 2564s while 70817514 uses 2764s. > > If you use the wrong ROMs - it won't work! > > The Test Spec document is also of interest. > > Keep well > D > > -----Original Message----- > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of > Rick > Bale > Sent: 08 April 2020 13:45 > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081 > > All, > > Here's an update on my 7081 that hangs during boot up > > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list > volt-nuts@lists.febo.com > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > End of volt-nuts Digest, Vol 125, Issue 1 > ***************************************** >