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Re: [time-nuts] Working with SMT parts.

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wb6bnq
Sat, Aug 13, 2016 7:14 AM

Hello Orin,

Like I mentioned before http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml will
accept the ExpressPCB program file and their prices are very reasonable
compared to having the work done through ExpressPCB themselves.

Bill....WB6BNQ

Orin Eman wrote:

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Brooke Clarke brooke@pacific.net wrote:

Hi Chris:

ExpressPCB has very easy to use free software for schematic capture (later
used to check the board wiring) and software for board layout including
making custom components if their library of stock components does not have
what you need.  The output file format is proprietary, which makes it
interesting that Far Circuits can read it.

I just have not wanted to go through learning curve for Gerber files and
all the associated stuff (maybe drilling, silk screen, solder mask) which
is very easy to do with ExpressPCB.

I did my first 'CAD' PCB with EasyTrax... a DOS program.  Must have been
about 1998 as that's the copyright date I put on the board.

Believe me, getting any of the current programs to produce gerber files is
trivial compared to using EasyTrax and making it produce gerber files.  In
fact, I usually us itead.cc for small boards and they provide the script to
produce gerber files from Eagle, which is what I currently use.  I've also
used OSH Park and you can simply send an Eagle board file to them; just as
easy as using ExpressPCB without the expensive tie-in.

I must admit ExpressPCB leaves me with a sour taste - many published
projects seem to use them as  I suppose the author liked the free
software.  But then everyone that uses the ExpressPCB files that the author
supplies pays the ExpressPCB premium.  $300 in one case and the boards
weren't even flat!

Orin.


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Hello Orin, Like I mentioned before http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml will accept the ExpressPCB program file and their prices are very reasonable compared to having the work done through ExpressPCB themselves. Bill....WB6BNQ Orin Eman wrote: >On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Brooke Clarke <brooke@pacific.net> wrote: > > > >>Hi Chris: >> >>ExpressPCB has very easy to use free software for schematic capture (later >>used to check the board wiring) and software for board layout including >>making custom components if their library of stock components does not have >>what you need. The output file format is proprietary, which makes it >>interesting that Far Circuits can read it. >> >>I just have not wanted to go through learning curve for Gerber files and >>all the associated stuff (maybe drilling, silk screen, solder mask) which >>is very easy to do with ExpressPCB. >> >> > > > >I did my first 'CAD' PCB with EasyTrax... a DOS program. Must have been >about 1998 as that's the copyright date I put on the board. > >Believe me, getting any of the current programs to produce gerber files is >trivial compared to using EasyTrax and making it produce gerber files. In >fact, I usually us itead.cc for small boards and they provide the script to >produce gerber files from Eagle, which is what I currently use. I've also >used OSH Park and you can simply send an Eagle board file to them; just as >easy as using ExpressPCB without the expensive tie-in. > >I must admit ExpressPCB leaves me with a sour taste - many published >projects seem to use them as I suppose the author liked the free >software. But then everyone that uses the ExpressPCB files that the author >supplies pays the ExpressPCB premium. $300 in one case and the boards >weren't even flat! > >Orin. >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >and follow the instructions there. > > >
DJ
Didier Juges
Sat, Aug 13, 2016 1:13 PM

I did not know Futurlec accepted ExpressPCB files, so I checked.

The equivalent to ExpressPCB mini board pro service (2 sided, solder mask
and silk screen, 3 pieces, same size) is $86 + shipping and one week to
shipment. ExpressPCB is $75 in 3-4 days in your mailbox including FedEx
(they do offer cheaper/slower delivery methods).

I did not check other dimensions/quantities.

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:14 AM, wb6bnq wb6bnq@cox.net wrote:

Hello Orin,

Like I mentioned before http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml will
accept the ExpressPCB program file and their prices are very reasonable
compared to having the work done through ExpressPCB themselves.

Bill....WB6BNQ

Orin Eman wrote:

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Brooke Clarke brooke@pacific.net wrote:

Hi Chris:

ExpressPCB has very easy to use free software for schematic capture
(later
used to check the board wiring) and software for board layout including
making custom components if their library of stock components does not
have
what you need.  The output file format is proprietary, which makes it
interesting that Far Circuits can read it.

I just have not wanted to go through learning curve for Gerber files and
all the associated stuff (maybe drilling, silk screen, solder mask) which
is very easy to do with ExpressPCB.

I did my first 'CAD' PCB with EasyTrax... a DOS program.  Must have been
about 1998 as that's the copyright date I put on the board.

Believe me, getting any of the current programs to produce gerber files is
trivial compared to using EasyTrax and making it produce gerber files.  In
fact, I usually us itead.cc for small boards and they provide the script
to
produce gerber files from Eagle, which is what I currently use.  I've also
used OSH Park and you can simply send an Eagle board file to them; just as
easy as using ExpressPCB without the expensive tie-in.

I must admit ExpressPCB leaves me with a sour taste - many published
projects seem to use them as  I suppose the author liked the free
software.  But then everyone that uses the ExpressPCB files that the
author
supplies pays the ExpressPCB premium.  $300 in one case and the boards
weren't even flat!

Orin.


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I did not know Futurlec accepted ExpressPCB files, so I checked. The equivalent to ExpressPCB mini board pro service (2 sided, solder mask and silk screen, 3 pieces, same size) is $86 + shipping and one week to shipment. ExpressPCB is $75 in 3-4 days in your mailbox including FedEx (they do offer cheaper/slower delivery methods). I did not check other dimensions/quantities. On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:14 AM, wb6bnq <wb6bnq@cox.net> wrote: > Hello Orin, > > Like I mentioned before http://www.futurlec.com/PCBService.shtml will > accept the ExpressPCB program file and their prices are very reasonable > compared to having the work done through ExpressPCB themselves. > > Bill....WB6BNQ > > Orin Eman wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 7:25 PM, Brooke Clarke <brooke@pacific.net> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Chris: >>> >>> ExpressPCB has very easy to use free software for schematic capture >>> (later >>> used to check the board wiring) and software for board layout including >>> making custom components if their library of stock components does not >>> have >>> what you need. The output file format is proprietary, which makes it >>> interesting that Far Circuits can read it. >>> >>> I just have not wanted to go through learning curve for Gerber files and >>> all the associated stuff (maybe drilling, silk screen, solder mask) which >>> is very easy to do with ExpressPCB. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> I did my first 'CAD' PCB with EasyTrax... a DOS program. Must have been >> about 1998 as that's the copyright date I put on the board. >> >> Believe me, getting any of the current programs to produce gerber files is >> trivial compared to using EasyTrax and making it produce gerber files. In >> fact, I usually us itead.cc for small boards and they provide the script >> to >> produce gerber files from Eagle, which is what I currently use. I've also >> used OSH Park and you can simply send an Eagle board file to them; just as >> easy as using ExpressPCB without the expensive tie-in. >> >> I must admit ExpressPCB leaves me with a sour taste - many published >> projects seem to use them as I suppose the author liked the free >> software. But then everyone that uses the ExpressPCB files that the >> author >> supplies pays the ExpressPCB premium. $300 in one case and the boards >> weren't even flat! >> >> Orin. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >