My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I have never been there before. I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to visit. We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then work our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham meeting in in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Dave

swisswatchtours.com https://m.myswitzerland.com/en-us/factory-and-technical-visits/clock-and-watch-museum-beyer.html Content by Scott Typos by Siri On Mar 13, 2018, at 5:58 PM, David Witten <wittend@wwrinc.com> wrote: My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I have never been there before. I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to visit. We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then work our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham meeting in in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Dave _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Hi Dave, the center of the Swiss watch & crystal industry is the small town of Grenchen, location of many famous watch makers including the SMH group which includes Microcrystal, previously also Oscilloquartz, and the following wathc brands: Prestige and Luxury: Breguet (CH) Blancpain (CH) Glashütte Original (D) Jaquet Droz (CH) Léon Hatot (CH) Harry Winston (USA) Omega (CH) Upper price segment: Longines (CH) Rado (CH) Union Glashütte (D) Middle price segment: Tissot (CH) Calvin Klein (CH) Balmain (CH) Certina (CH) Mido (CH) Hamilton (CH) Base segment: Swatch (CH) Flik Flak (CH) Private Label: Endura (CH) A few km away is Neuchatel (Neuenburg), a center of time and frequency companies. I am not familiar with museums in that area, but I am sure there are some. I think someone else on the list will have more details. The whole area is the so-called "Swiss Jura". The area of time & frequency companies and institutes extends into France up to Besancon. Neuchatel and Besancon are the locations where the EFTF (European Time and Frequency Forum) started and is taking place in one of both every two years. Best regards Bernd DK1AG -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] Im Auftrag von David Witten Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 22:59 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I have never been there before. I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to visit. We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then work our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham meeting in in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Dave _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Also worth mentioning is the Swiss standards organization, METAS, in Bern. Their time and frequency group has a few atomic clocks, a maser, and some other shiny things they use for realizing UTC(CH), as well as a few research projects related to the subject. While not formally open to the public, they do tours on request. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Bernd Neubig wrote: > Hi Dave, > the center of the Swiss watch & crystal industry is the small town of > Grenchen, location of many famous watch makers including the SMH group > which includes Microcrystal, previously also Oscilloquartz, and the > following wathc brands: > Prestige and Luxury: > Breguet (CH) > Blancpain (CH) > Glashütte Original (D) > Jaquet Droz (CH) > Léon Hatot (CH) > Harry Winston (USA) > Omega (CH) > Upper price segment: > Longines (CH) > Rado (CH) > Union Glashütte (D) > Middle price segment: > Tissot (CH) > Calvin Klein (CH) > Balmain (CH) > Certina (CH) > Mido (CH) > Hamilton (CH) > Base segment: > Swatch (CH) > Flik Flak (CH) > Private Label: > Endura (CH) > > A few km away is Neuchatel (Neuenburg), a center of time and frequency > companies. > I am not familiar with museums in that area, but I am sure there are > some. I think someone else on the list will have more details. > The whole area is the so-called "Swiss Jura". > The area of time & frequency companies and institutes extends into > France up to Besancon. > Neuchatel and Besancon are the locations where the EFTF (European Time > and Frequency Forum) started and is taking place in one of both every > two years. > > Best regards > Bernd > DK1AG > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] Im Auftrag von David Witten > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 22:59 > An: time-nuts@febo.com > Betreff: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland > > My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I > have never been there before. > > I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to visit. > > We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then work > our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. > > I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham meeting > in in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Pete Stephenson

Hi Dave, I, you and more time-nuts (?) go to the Hamradio meeting Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Is there interest in an informal be together? Guided tours for individuals to Visit CERN https://visit.cern/tours/guided-tours-individuals Tours will be organized in groups of 24 visitors in the same language. CERN organizes up to 5 such tour every day, up to 8 during the Summer. The tour offers an introduction to CERN, followed by a visit to an historic area of CERN and to the operations centre of one of the experiments.You have to book your Guided tour for individuals by submitting the web form. Your tour is only be confirmed when you receive a positive answer by e-mail. All tours are free of charge. Please check the following https://visit.cern/tours/important-instructions. Failure to respect any of these instructions may lead to your guided tour being cancelled. When you do not have an conformed guided-tour, Cern has 2 permanent exhibitions. They offer a very good alternative to get an idea on what CERN looks like from the inside. They are accessible freely, no reservation needed. At one of the exhibitions is an Cern goody shop. Best regards, Henk PA0HZP > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] Im Auftrag von David Witten > Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 22:59 > An: time-nuts@febo.com > Betreff: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland > > My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I have never been there before. > > I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to visit. > > We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then work our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. > > I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham meeting in in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

Am 15.03.2018 um 19:07 schrieb Henk Peek: > Hi Dave, > > I, you and more time-nuts (?) go to the Hamradio meeting Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. Is there interest in an informal be together? I also plan to go to Friedrichshafen. WRT Switzerland, I'll leave that to Attila.  It's his home turf, after all. :-) regards, Gerhard, DK4XP

Dave, Since you are a ham, you might want to visit and operate the ITU amateur station in Geneva. I assume that it is still there, but you might want to check since it's been 35 years since I did it. Just bring your original license -- or what passes for that these days. I don't recall what advance arrangements might be needed. 73, Fred KE6CD On 13.03.2018 14:58, David Witten wrote: > My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I > have never been there before. > > I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to > visit. > > We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then > work > our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. > > I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham > meeting in > in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

There is a Laser Ranging station in Zimmerwald which is related to METAS. They measure distance of artificial satellites down to few millimeters by fly time of sub-nanosecond laser pulses, so they have very accurate time-interval measurement systems. There is also a nice Museum d'horlogerie in Le Locle, near Neuchatel : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Locle Best regards, Jean-Louis On 15/03/2018 12:22, Pete Stephenson wrote: > Also worth mentioning is the Swiss standards organization, METAS, in Bern. Their time and frequency group has a few atomic clocks, a maser, and some other shiny things they use for realizing UTC(CH), as well as a few research projects related to the subject. While not formally open to the public, they do tours on request. > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Bernd Neubig wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> the center of the Swiss watch & crystal industry is the small town of >> Grenchen, location of many famous watch makers including the SMH group >> which includes Microcrystal, previously also Oscilloquartz, and the >> following wathc brands: >> Prestige and Luxury: >> Breguet (CH) >> Blancpain (CH) >> Glashütte Original (D) >> Jaquet Droz (CH) >> Léon Hatot (CH) >> Harry Winston (USA) >> Omega (CH) >> Upper price segment: >> Longines (CH) >> Rado (CH) >> Union Glashütte (D) >> Middle price segment: >> Tissot (CH) >> Calvin Klein (CH) >> Balmain (CH) >> Certina (CH) >> Mido (CH) >> Hamilton (CH) >> Base segment: >> Swatch (CH) >> Flik Flak (CH) >> Private Label: >> Endura (CH) >> >> A few km away is Neuchatel (Neuenburg), a center of time and frequency >> companies. >> I am not familiar with museums in that area, but I am sure there are >> some. I think someone else on the list will have more details. >> The whole area is the so-called "Swiss Jura". >> The area of time & frequency companies and institutes extends into >> France up to Besancon. >> Neuchatel and Besancon are the locations where the EFTF (European Time >> and Frequency Forum) started and is taking place in one of both every >> two years. >> >> Best regards >> Bernd >> DK1AG >> >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] Im Auftrag von David Witten >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 22:59 >> An: time-nuts@febo.com >> Betreff: [time-nuts] Suggest time-and-tech related locations in Switzerland >> >> My wife and I are traveling to Switzerland for the last week in May. I >> have never been there before. >> >> I would appreciate suggestions for time / tech sites of interest to visit. >> >> We plan to fly to Zurich, but travel immediately to Geneva and then work >> our way back to Zurich by train, stopping (at least) in Bern. >> >> I would like to see what I can at CERN, I plan to attend the Ham meeting >> in in Friedrichshafen June 1 - 3. >> >> Dave >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > -- Jean-Louis Oneto email: jl.oneto@free.fr