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Mark Sims
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 4:34 PM

I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather.  The lat/lon offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day.    Vertical offset is around  +/- 180mm.  Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not symmetrical around 0.0

Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy.  Gravity offset is a big issue for precision pendulum nuts.  If your pendulum clock cannot detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough.

The attached plot shows around 5 days of data.


Since 1cm of motion is equivalent to 30ps, there's probably not

I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather. The lat/lon offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day. Vertical offset is around +/- 180mm. Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not symmetrical around 0.0 Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy. Gravity offset is a big issue for precision pendulum nuts. If your pendulum clock cannot detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough. The attached plot shows around 5 days of data. --------------- > Since 1cm of motion is equivalent to 30ps, there's probably not
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Peter Vince
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 11:21 PM

Hi Mark,

 This is all new information to me - and fascinating!  Have you just

"calculated" the offsets (using known values from somewhere), or "measured"
it by very long term averaging of the GPS position information?

 Peter Vince

On 20 June 2017 at 17:34, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical
gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather.  The lat/lon
offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day.    Vertical offset is around
+/- 180mm.  Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not
symmetrical around 0.0

Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy.  Gravity offset
is a big issue for precision pendulum nuts.  If your pendulum clock cannot
detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough.

The attached plot shows around 5 days of data.

Hi Mark, This is all new information to me - and fascinating! Have you just "calculated" the offsets (using known values from somewhere), or "measured" it by very long term averaging of the GPS position information? Peter Vince On 20 June 2017 at 17:34, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical > gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather. The lat/lon > offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day. Vertical offset is around > +/- 180mm. Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not > symmetrical around 0.0 > > Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy. Gravity offset > is a big issue for precision pendulum nuts. If your pendulum clock cannot > detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough. > > The attached plot shows around 5 days of data. >
BK
Bob kb8tq
Wed, Jun 21, 2017 12:10 AM

Hi

Earth tides are at least as crazy a topic as time. There are formulas that will let you incorporate
the effect of Pluto on solid Earth tides.

Bob

On Jun 20, 2017, at 7:21 PM, Peter Vince petervince1952@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Mark,

 This is all new information to me - and fascinating!  Have you just

"calculated" the offsets (using known values from somewhere), or "measured"
it by very long term averaging of the GPS position information?

 Peter Vince

On 20 June 2017 at 17:34, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical
gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather.  The lat/lon
offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day.    Vertical offset is around
+/- 180mm.  Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not
symmetrical around 0.0

Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy.  Gravity offset
is a big issue for precision pendulum nuts.  If your pendulum clock cannot
detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough.

The attached plot shows around 5 days of data.


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Hi Earth tides are at least as crazy a topic as time. There are formulas that will let you incorporate the effect of Pluto on solid Earth tides. Bob > On Jun 20, 2017, at 7:21 PM, Peter Vince <petervince1952@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > This is all new information to me - and fascinating! Have you just > "calculated" the offsets (using known values from somewhere), or "measured" > it by very long term averaging of the GPS position information? > > Peter Vince > > > On 20 June 2017 at 17:34, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical >> gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather. The lat/lon >> offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day. Vertical offset is around >> +/- 180mm. Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not >> symmetrical around 0.0 >> >> Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy. Gravity offset >> is a big issue for precision pendulum nuts. If your pendulum clock cannot >> detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough. >> >> The attached plot shows around 5 days of data. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Attila Kinali
Wed, Jun 21, 2017 8:26 AM

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:34:14 +0000
Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical
gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather.

Cool! How do you calculate the displacement on a fixed position receiver?

The lat/lon offset
is typically around +/- 60 cm per day.    Vertical offset is around  +/-
180mm.  Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not
symmetrical around 0.0

This might be of interest:
http://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/psa/activities/2012/un-latvia/ppt/2-11.pdf
(more papers available upon request)

Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy.  Gravity offset is
a big issue for precision pendulum nuts.  If your pendulum clock cannot
detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough.

:-D

		Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 16:34:14 +0000 Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical > gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather. Cool! How do you calculate the displacement on a fixed position receiver? > The lat/lon offset > is typically around +/- 60 cm per day. Vertical offset is around +/- > 180mm. Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not > symmetrical around 0.0 This might be of interest: http://www.unoosa.org/documents/pdf/psa/activities/2012/un-latvia/ppt/2-11.pdf (more papers available upon request) > Solid earth tides are a BIG factor in precision geodesy. Gravity offset is > a big issue for precision pendulum nuts. If your pendulum clock cannot > detect gravity offsets (very few can) it's not nutty enough. :-D Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Wes
Wed, Jun 21, 2017 6:07 PM

Mark,

Excuse my ignorance but where do I find this version?

Wes

On 6/20/2017 9:34 AM, Mark Sims wrote:

I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather.  The lat/lon offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day.    Vertical offset is around  +/- 180mm.  Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not symmetrical around 0.0

Mark, Excuse my ignorance but where do I find this version? Wes On 6/20/2017 9:34 AM, Mark Sims wrote: > I just added the ability to calculate solid earth tides and the vertical gravity offset due to the sun and moon to Lady Heather. The lat/lon offset is typically around +/- 60 cm per day. Vertical offset is around +/- 180mm. Depending upon the day and where you are, the swings are not symmetrical around 0.0 >