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Mark Sims
Fri, Dec 1, 2017 5:39 AM

I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector.  And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted.  It might be useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data.  Even if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably useless.

If it not  RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out.


I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no?

I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector. And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted. It might be useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data. Even if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably useless. If it not RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out. --------------- > I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no?
JH
Jerry Hancock
Fri, Dec 1, 2017 5:54 AM

Mark, I agree.  I tried scoping some pins.  I see a few different levels and one pin has what looks like a clock signal with a period of about 4.2ms.  Other than that, hard to tell without a manual.

I know people went so far as to contact Perkin Elmer without luck, I had heard they had acquired EG&G.

I wouldn’t mind sending one to someone that could do a better test on it.  I’ll play around with them if and when I get the TPLL setup working.

On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector.  And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted.  It might be useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data.  Even if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably useless.

If it not  RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out.


I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no?


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Mark, I agree. I tried scoping some pins. I see a few different levels and one pin has what looks like a clock signal with a period of about 4.2ms. Other than that, hard to tell without a manual. I know people went so far as to contact Perkin Elmer without luck, I had heard they had acquired EG&G. I wouldn’t mind sending one to someone that could do a better test on it. I’ll play around with them if and when I get the TPLL setup working. > On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector. And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted. It might be useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data. Even if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably useless. > > If it not RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out. > > --------------- > >> I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no? > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Bob kb8tq
Fri, Dec 1, 2017 2:17 PM

Hi

Back a while ago EG&G decided they needed a new name. The connection of the
company name to various pieces of history was believed to be an issue. Back then
they were actively buying up various companies. When they bought Perkin Elmer,
they decided to use that name for the new company. I used to drive past the (now
empty) Perkin Elmer HQ building on my way to work.

Tracking much of anything down at the company (regardless of the name) is a bit
crazy. You need to go to the division involved with the work and see if they have
the info you are after.

These Rb’s were designed as FRK / M-100 clones back in the 1980’s. Back then,
the idea of serial control was not as pervasive as it is today. They may well have
been redesigned in the 1990’s or even later. If so, the marketing guys didn’t have
much of an advertising budget ….

Bob

On Dec 1, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Jerry Hancock jerry@hanler.com wrote:

Mark, I agree.  I tried scoping some pins.  I see a few different levels and one pin has what looks like a clock signal with a period of about 4.2ms.  Other than that, hard to tell without a manual.

I know people went so far as to contact Perkin Elmer without luck, I had heard they had acquired EG&G.

I wouldn’t mind sending one to someone that could do a better test on it.  I’ll play around with them if and when I get the TPLL setup working.

On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector.  And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted.  It might be useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data.  Even if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably useless.

If it not  RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out.


I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no?


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Hi Back a while ago EG&G decided they needed a new name. The connection of the company name to various pieces of history was believed to be an issue. Back then they were actively buying up various companies. When they bought Perkin Elmer, they decided to use that name for the new company. I used to drive past the (now empty) Perkin Elmer HQ building on my way to work. Tracking much of anything down at the company (regardless of the name) is a bit crazy. You need to go to the division involved with the work and see if they have the info you are after. These Rb’s were designed as FRK / M-100 clones back in the 1980’s. Back then, the idea of serial control was not as pervasive as it is today. They may well have been redesigned in the 1990’s or even later. If so, the marketing guys didn’t have much of an advertising budget …. Bob > On Dec 1, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Jerry Hancock <jerry@hanler.com> wrote: > > Mark, I agree. I tried scoping some pins. I see a few different levels and one pin has what looks like a clock signal with a period of about 4.2ms. Other than that, hard to tell without a manual. > > I know people went so far as to contact Perkin Elmer without luck, I had heard they had acquired EG&G. > > I wouldn’t mind sending one to someone that could do a better test on it. I’ll play around with them if and when I get the TPLL setup working. > > >> On Nov 30, 2017, at 9:39 PM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector. And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted. It might be useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data. Even if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably useless. >> >> If it not RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out. >> >> --------------- >> >>> I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no? >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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paul swed
Fri, Dec 1, 2017 4:57 PM

hello to the group
OK turns out my egg units are actually the same ts-frs sn1599.
Nice lable thats says what the pin functions are.

1 rf rtn
2 rf
3 rf rtn
4 +24 1.5A cold says my note
5 +24 rtn
6 +24 power same as 4
7 sig rtn
8 reg mon
9 sig rtn
10 lock
11 sig rtn
12 dc light
13 sig rtn
14 xtal mon
15 power rtn
16 + 5 note says .3A constant

No RS 232 apparent and I have not gone inside to look. Maybe later today.
But believe as others this is sort of pre-rs-232. Also no apparent EFC
control.
Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL

On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector.
And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted.  It might be
useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data.  Even
if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably
useless.

If it not  RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V
RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out.


I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to

hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no?


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hello to the group OK turns out my egg units are actually the same ts-frs sn1599. Nice lable thats says what the pin functions are. 1 rf rtn 2 rf 3 rf rtn 4 +24 1.5A cold says my note 5 +24 rtn 6 +24 power same as 4 7 sig rtn 8 reg mon 9 sig rtn 10 lock 11 sig rtn 12 dc light 13 sig rtn 14 xtal mon 15 power rtn 16 + 5 note says .3A constant No RS 232 apparent and I have not gone inside to look. Maybe later today. But believe as others this is sort of pre-rs-232. Also no apparent EFC control. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 12:39 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > I doubt that it would be a direct mapping to a 9-pin serial connector. > And probably would not be outputting anything unless prompted. It might be > useful to scope the pins and see if anything looks like serial data. Even > if it has a serial port, without some kind of manual, it is probably > useless. > > If it not RS-232 compatible voltage tolerant and you connect a +/- V > RS-232 signal into it you could burn something out. > > --------------- > > > I opened it up, JT1 has 9 pins. What are the odds? I think I have to > hook something up to it and see if there is anything on 2 or 3, no? > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >