List, Fair Radio which has been in the surplus electronics business almost forever has two models of Fluke standards for sale. They have a sterling reputation. FLUKE-332A  $100 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable     FLUKE-332B  $125 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable IIRC, this means they will work but are not calibrated.  If interested one can email them for exactly what Used Repairable means. FWIW Regards, Perrier

Had the HP equivalent for a while. Required special cords to bring the voltage to the DUT. Buyer Beware. Haven't seen a Fair Radio catalog in years, not since I sold the R-39x equipment. There's a big difference between the accuracy of a voltage standard and a time standard. Perhaps this is because there are no satellites broadcasting voltage standards. Bill Hawkins -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry Sandeen via time-nuts Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 6:26 PM List, Fair Radio which has been in the surplus electronics business almost forever has two models of Fluke standards for sale. They have a sterling reputation. FLUKE-332A  $100 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable   FLUKE-332B  $125 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable IIRC, this means they will work but are not calibrated.  If interested one can email them for exactly what Used Repairable means. FWIW Regards, Perrier

Perry, Thanks for pointing them out. Very tempting. But that said what I really liked was the 2012 tour pixs on the site. I would have some serious fun going through that place and loading up my trunk. But thats 11 drive hours away. Maybe not this week. I have purchased various items from Fair Radio and though I am sure you could get burned the fact is I never have been. They are pretty upfront on the risk. The killer for me is the shipping on about anything they have costs more then the usable value of the equipment. He at ham prices. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Bill Hawkins <bill.iaxs@pobox.com> wrote: > Had the HP equivalent for a while. Required special cords to bring the > voltage to the DUT. Buyer Beware. > Haven't seen a Fair Radio catalog in years, not since I sold the R-39x > equipment. > > There's a big difference between the accuracy of a voltage standard and > a time standard. > Perhaps this is because there are no satellites broadcasting voltage > standards. > > Bill Hawkins > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry > Sandeen via time-nuts > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 6:26 PM > > List, > Fair Radio which has been in the surplus electronics business almost > forever has two models of Fluke standards for sale. They have a sterling > reputation. > FLUKE-332A $100 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable > > FLUKE-332B $125 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable > > > IIRC, this means they will work but are not calibrated. If interested > one can email them for exactly what Used Repairable means. > FWIW > Regards, > Perrier > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

I wonder if there is a way to get a voltage standard out of a frequency standard (GPS Disciplined). I think the big problem is probably voltage stability due to temperature variations. Any thoughts on this ? -George On 11/10/2016 02:17 PM, paul swed wrote: > Perry, > Thanks for pointing them out. Very tempting. But that said what I really > liked was the 2012 tour pixs on the site. > I would have some serious fun going through that place and loading up my > trunk. > But thats 11 drive hours away. Maybe not this week. > I have purchased various items from Fair Radio and though I am sure you > could get burned the fact is I never have been. They are pretty upfront on > the risk. > The killer for me is the shipping on about anything they have costs more > then the usable value of the equipment. He at ham prices. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Bill Hawkins <bill.iaxs@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Had the HP equivalent for a while. Required special cords to bring the >> voltage to the DUT. Buyer Beware. >> Haven't seen a Fair Radio catalog in years, not since I sold the R-39x >> equipment. >> >> There's a big difference between the accuracy of a voltage standard and >> a time standard. >> Perhaps this is because there are no satellites broadcasting voltage >> standards. >> >> Bill Hawkins >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry >> Sandeen via time-nuts >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 6:26 PM >> >> List, >> Fair Radio which has been in the surplus electronics business almost >> forever has two models of Fluke standards for sale. They have a sterling >> reputation. >> FLUKE-332A $100 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable >> >> FLUKE-332B $125 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable >> >> >> IIRC, this means they will work but are not calibrated. If interested >> one can email them for exactly what Used Repairable means. >> FWIW >> Regards, >> Perrier >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

-------- In message <9dbb3a8f-d529-7b70-6e06-de4ea350724f@darksmile.net>, xaos writes: >I wonder if there is a way to get a voltage standard out of a frequency >standard (GPS Disciplined). >I think the big problem is probably voltage stability due to temperature >variations. There is, it's called a Josephson Junction. I think volt-nuts recently concluded that prices start from about $50k... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

On Thursday, November 10, 2016 02:23:19 PM xaos wrote: > I wonder if there is a way to get a voltage standard out of a frequency > standard (GPS Disciplined). > I think the big problem is probably voltage stability due to temperature > variations. > > Any thoughts on this ? > > -George > > On 11/10/2016 02:17 PM, paul swed wrote: > > Perry, > > Thanks for pointing them out. Very tempting. But that said what I really > > liked was the 2012 tour pixs on the site. > > I would have some serious fun going through that place and loading up my > > trunk. > > But thats 11 drive hours away. Maybe not this week. > > I have purchased various items from Fair Radio and though I am sure you > > could get burned the fact is I never have been. They are pretty upfront on > > the risk. > > The killer for me is the shipping on about anything they have costs more > > then the usable value of the equipment. He at ham prices. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 2:32 AM, Bill Hawkins <bill.iaxs@pobox.com> wrote: > >> Had the HP equivalent for a while. Required special cords to bring the > >> voltage to the DUT. Buyer Beware. > >> Haven't seen a Fair Radio catalog in years, not since I sold the R-39x > >> equipment. > >> > >> There's a big difference between the accuracy of a voltage standard and > >> a time standard. > >> Perhaps this is because there are no satellites broadcasting voltage > >> standards. > >> > >> Bill Hawkins > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Perry > >> Sandeen via time-nuts > >> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 6:26 PM > >> > >> List, > >> Fair Radio which has been in the surplus electronics business almost > >> forever has two models of Fluke standards for sale. They have a sterling > >> reputation. > >> FLUKE-332A $100 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable > >> > >> FLUKE-332B $125 Voltage Standard - Used Reparable > >> > >> > >> IIRC, this means they will work but are not calibrated. If interested > >> one can email them for exactly what Used Repairable means. > >> FWIW > >> Regards, > >> Perrier > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the > > instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the > instructions there. Only the obvious method of using a Josephson Junction series array. Bruce