Skilled Math Editor(s) Needed
HI,
At the request of a TN member (who wishes to remain anonymous)I started to reproduce:
The Quantum Physics of Atomic Frequency Standards Volume 1By Jacques Vanier Division de Physique,Conseil National de Recherches, Ottawa and Claude Audoin Laboratoire de I’Horloge Atomique, CentreNational de la Recherche Scientifique, Universite Paris Sud, Orsay. From aphotocopy he had.
I tried to do this as its used price will cost you yourfirst born child.
The original copyright was 1989. The copyright has expired and the document isnow in the public domain
So I digitally reproduced and translated it into AmericanEnglish in March 2016. Additionalliberty in editing was taken. Many paragraphs contained more than one subjectso using standard writing guidelines they were split up for an easierunderstanding of the concepts being presented.
Many formulae had to be transferred images, and are veryclear, as re-typing would have delayed this project to infinity. Lastly, textwas transferred by OCR. Many drawings had to be edited using PhotoShop Elements as the originals were smeared.
I spent about 200 hours doing this.
Some formula symbols were not accurately reproduced. I don’t have the math ability needed toretype most formulae. No material was added or deleted
I can send to all who wish it a DVD with the 800+ Mbytes ofraw data and the partial (5%) I have accomplished.
Due to permanent changes in my life I will never be able tospend time on this again. I just don’t want delete the material.
Regards,
Perrier
Perry et all
As someone who indirectly makes a living (? ...ok so it pays for my
addiction to expensive electronic toys) with OCR as a tool , I can tell
you that OCR can bring a host of errors.Most OCR engines that i am
familiar with do not read in context. The largest error source are
characters that look very similar which can be aggravated by the
particular font used the lower case "L" (i.e l) and the number "1" are
often mistaken by OCR engines . For years HP/Agilent for example used a
font where these two were identical. Other sources of OCR misreading "I"
(both upper case "I" and lower case"i" ) mistaken for the "L" and "1".
Other common errors are "8" and "B"; "6" and "G" ,and so on. If accuracy
is the end goal then and exhausting proof reading (a science into it
self) is required ....have fun
On 1/2/2018 8:41 PM, Perry Sandeen via time-nuts wrote:
Lastly, textwas transferred by OCR
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Using Latex for the typesetting is probably the optimum solution for a Technical/Scientific publiication such as this.
Most such publications are typeset using Latex these days.
If one is familiar with Latex the odd typo when typesetting an equation (for example) can make it blatantly obvious that Latex was employed to typset a document.
Suitable templates are freely available along with toolsets for Nuclear Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics etc
Bruce
On 03 January 2018 at 14:41 Perry Sandeen via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote:
HI,
At the request of a TN member (who wishes to remain anonymous)I started to reproduce:
The Quantum Physics of Atomic Frequency Standards Volume 1By Jacques Vanier Division de Physique,Conseil National de Recherches, Ottawa and Claude Audoin Laboratoire de I’Horloge Atomique, CentreNational de la Recherche Scientifique, Universite Paris Sud, Orsay. From aphotocopy he had.
I tried to do this as its used price will cost you yourfirst born child.
The original copyright was 1989. The copyright has expired and the document isnow in the public domain
So I digitally reproduced and translated it into AmericanEnglish in March 2016. Additionalliberty in editing was taken. Many paragraphs contained more than one subjectso using standard writing guidelines they were split up for an easierunderstanding of the concepts being presented.
Many formulae had to be transferred images, and are veryclear, as re-typing would have delayed this project to infinity. Lastly, textwas transferred by OCR. Many drawings had to be edited using PhotoShop Elements as the originals were smeared.
I spent about 200 hours doing this.
Some formula symbols were not accurately reproduced. I don’t have the math ability needed toretype most formulae. No material was added or deleted
I can send to all who wish it a DVD with the 800+ Mbytes ofraw data and the partial (5%) I have accomplished.
Due to permanent changes in my life I will never be able tospend time on this again. I just don’t want delete the material.
Regards,
Perrier
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Latex really is the only way to go. It is the de facto standard and not all
that hard to learn. My spouse and I have used it extensively for more than
15 years, constructing some fairly arcane formulae in quantum theory.
On Tuesday, January 2, 2018, Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
wrote:
Using Latex for the typesetting is probably the optimum solution for a
Technical/Scientific publiication such as this.
Most such publications are typeset using Latex these days.
If one is familiar with Latex the odd typo when typesetting an equation
(for example) can make it blatantly obvious that Latex was employed to
typset a document.
Suitable templates are freely available along with toolsets for Nuclear
Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics etc
Bruce
On 03 January 2018 at 14:41 Perry Sandeen via time-nuts <
time-nuts@febo.com> wrote:
HI,
At the request of a TN member (who wishes to remain anonymous)I
started to reproduce:
The Quantum Physics of Atomic Frequency Standards Volume 1By Jacques
Vanier Division de Physique,Conseil National de Recherches, Ottawa and
Claude Audoin Laboratoire de I’Horloge Atomique, CentreNational de la
Recherche Scientifique, Universite Paris Sud, Orsay. From aphotocopy he had.
I tried to do this as its used price will cost you yourfirst born
child.
The original copyright was 1989. The copyright has expired and the
document isnow in the public domain
So I digitally reproduced and translated it into AmericanEnglish in
March 2016. Additionalliberty in editing was taken. Many paragraphs
contained more than one subjectso using standard writing guidelines they
were split up for an easierunderstanding of the concepts being presented.
Many formulae had to be transferred images, and are veryclear, as
re-typing would have delayed this project to infinity. Lastly, textwas
transferred by OCR. Many drawings had to be edited using PhotoShop Elements
as the originals were smeared.
I spent about 200 hours doing this.
Some formula symbols were not accurately reproduced. I don’t have
the math ability needed toretype most formulae. No material was added or
deleted
I can send to all who wish it a DVD with the 800+ Mbytes ofraw data
and the partial (5%) I have accomplished.
Due to permanent changes in my life I will never be able tospend
time on this again. I just don’t want delete the material.
Regards,
Perrier
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Friends in time,
Perry has apparently reached a major change in his life, perhaps because
of a doctor's diagnosis - but there are zillions of other reasons. It
seems to me that he is looking for someone to pick up his project and
run with it.
Advising him on the ways he could continue is probably not useful. He
needs someone to take the baton and take it further.
I say this as one who has downsized by 75% in order to move into a life
care community after my wife and I had cancer scares and no long term
care insurance.
A cousin was the copy editor for Gone With the Wind and other Doubleday
books. I seem to have inherited some of those genes. But I can't tell a
bad equation from a good one, and my French ended in High School.
Happy new year to the best list on the Internet.
Bill Hawkins
It was not my intent to suggest that Perry should continue the work using Latex.
I was merely considering the most effective and efficient way to complete this undertaking, whoever elects to pick it up.
The original is written in English so an extensive knowledge of French isn't required.
At 616 pages (according to the Amazon listing), or 1567 pages ( according to the google books entry) the task isn't perhaps quite as daunting as I originally thought.
Even so it may take 1-2 years at 3 pages/day.
Bruce
On 03 January 2018 at 19:27 Bill Hawkins <bill.iaxs@pobox.com> wrote:
Friends in time,
Perry has apparently reached a major change in his life, perhaps because
of a doctor's diagnosis - but there are zillions of other reasons. It
seems to me that he is looking for someone to pick up his project and
run with it.
Advising him on the ways he could continue is probably not useful. He
needs someone to take the baton and take it further.
I say this as one who has downsized by 75% in order to move into a life
care community after my wife and I had cancer scares and no long term
care insurance.
A cousin was the copy editor for Gone With the Wind and other Doubleday
books. I seem to have inherited some of those genes. But I can't tell a
bad equation from a good one, and my French ended in High School.
Happy new year to the best list on the Internet.
Bill Hawkins
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Hi Perry,
I have done the exercise on another book.
The copyright holder released the material under Creative Commons
license, so that helped to remove any issues and let us focus on the
content.
We put it on github and from the OCR original I did a translation into
LaTeX. Even on the third or is it fourth run-through we still fix OCR
issues and original faults.
The benefit of using github and a good license is that we got folks
joining us as we where working, some have done minor contributions and
others have just joined the theme, contributing on stuff they feel they
can contribute. One for instance just reviews text, but oh what he
contributes to clean things out. It turns out to have been a very
efficient way of operating. For some stuff I have done some
heavy-lifting to resolve issues, and others have then come in to clean
up stuff. I have then tried to have people focused on the right tasks.
Others come in to focus on the layout of the book, being skilled in
Layout and LaTeX.
This is the way forward for projects like this.
Cheers & 73,
Magnus SA0MAD
On 01/03/2018 02:41 AM, Perry Sandeen via time-nuts wrote:
HI,
At the request of a TN member (who wishes to remain anonymous)I started to reproduce:
The Quantum Physics of Atomic Frequency Standards Volume 1By Jacques Vanier Division de Physique,Conseil National de Recherches, Ottawa and Claude Audoin Laboratoire de I’Horloge Atomique, CentreNational de la Recherche Scientifique, Universite Paris Sud, Orsay. From aphotocopy he had.
I tried to do this as its used price will cost you yourfirst born child.
The original copyright was 1989. The copyright has expired and the document isnow in the public domain
So I digitally reproduced and translated it into AmericanEnglish in March 2016. Additionalliberty in editing was taken. Many paragraphs contained more than one subjectso using standard writing guidelines they were split up for an easierunderstanding of the concepts being presented.
Many formulae had to be transferred images, and are veryclear, as re-typing would have delayed this project to infinity. Lastly, textwas transferred by OCR. Many drawings had to be edited using PhotoShop Elements as the originals were smeared.
I spent about 200 hours doing this.
Some formula symbols were not accurately reproduced. I don’t have the math ability needed toretype most formulae. No material was added or deleted
I can send to all who wish it a DVD with the 800+ Mbytes ofraw data and the partial (5%) I have accomplished.
Due to permanent changes in my life I will never be able tospend time on this again. I just don’t want delete the material.
Regards,
Perrier
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G'morning, Bill. I didn't mean to sound like I expected Perry to pick up
the ball and run with it, only that Latex was the way to go for whomever
picked it up.
I'd volunteer to lend a hand with that but we're both so committed with
projects into the foreseeable future that there is no time remaining to
take on anything new.
On Wednesday, January 3, 2018, Bill Hawkins bill.iaxs@pobox.com wrote:
Friends in time,
Perry has apparently reached a major change in his life, perhaps because
of a doctor's diagnosis - but there are zillions of other reasons. It
seems to me that he is looking for someone to pick up his project and
run with it.
Advising him on the ways he could continue is probably not useful. He
needs someone to take the baton and take it further.
I say this as one who has downsized by 75% in order to move into a life
care community after my wife and I had cancer scares and no long term
care insurance.
A cousin was the copy editor for Gone With the Wind and other Doubleday
books. I seem to have inherited some of those genes. But I can't tell a
bad equation from a good one, and my French ended in High School.
Happy new year to the best list on the Internet.
Bill Hawkins
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Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government
when it deserves it.
--Mark Twain
We may be surprised at the people we find in heaven. God has a soft spot
for sinners. His standards are quite low.
--Desmond Tutu