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Re: [time-nuts] Garmin GPS12XL V3.51

JR
John Reid
Sun, Apr 7, 2019 8:42 AM

I switched my GPS12 on, and it comes up with 07 Apr 19, time correct, too.

Firmware is 4.58, 1996-2000.

John

I switched my GPS12 on, and it comes up with 07 Apr 19, time correct, too. Firmware is 4.58, 1996-2000. John
EH
Esa Heikkinen
Sun, Apr 7, 2019 7:43 PM

I switched my GPS12 on, and it comes up with 07 Apr 19, time correct, too.
Firmware is 4.58, 1996-2000.

But Garmin GPS12 (not XL) with 4.58 seems to fail! It shows 22 Aug 99,
also with about one second time error. Otherwise the navigation was OK
at least with quick test.

--
73s!
Esa
OH4KJU

> I switched my GPS12 on, and it comes up with 07 Apr 19, time correct, too. > Firmware is 4.58, 1996-2000. But Garmin GPS12 (not XL) with 4.58 seems to fail! It shows 22 Aug 99, also with about one second time error. Otherwise the navigation was OK at least with quick test. -- 73s! Esa OH4KJU
JR
John Reid
Mon, Apr 8, 2019 1:52 AM

I checked today the GPS12XL I have, and that came up with a date in
August 99, before dying a few minutes later. Firmware 4.57.

The only thought I had was that the GPS 12 (still working, still showing
"19" as the year) was bought new around 2002 with a differential
receiver. Perhaps there was something different for that?

John

On 7/4/19 6:42 pm, John wrote:

I switched my GPS12 on, and it comes up with 07 Apr 19, time correct,
too.

Firmware is 4.58, 1996-2000.

John

I checked today the GPS12XL I have, and that came up with a date in August 99, before dying a few minutes later. Firmware 4.57. The only thought I had was that the GPS 12 (still working, still showing "19" as the year) was bought new around 2002 with a differential receiver. Perhaps there was something different for that? John On 7/4/19 6:42 pm, John wrote: > I switched my GPS12 on, and it comes up with 07 Apr 19, time correct, > too. > > Firmware is 4.58, 1996-2000. > > > John >
DJ
David J Taylor
Mon, Apr 8, 2019 9:40 AM

I checked today the GPS12XL I have, and that came up with a date in
August 99, before dying a few minutes later. Firmware 4.57.
[]
John

John,

I think my 12XL firmware 4.60 is OK.  Perhaps you can update the firmware?

Cheers,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv

I checked today the GPS12XL I have, and that came up with a date in August 99, before dying a few minutes later. Firmware 4.57. [] John ================================ John, I think my 12XL firmware 4.60 is OK. Perhaps you can update the firmware? Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv
PV
Peter Vince
Mon, Apr 8, 2019 1:09 PM

I dug out my old Garmin GPS-III's (mid 1990's vintage !).  The internal
backup batteries had completely died after many years of non-use, so it
took a while for them to find the satellites, but when they did, they, of
course, came up with an August 1999 date.  A quick "Google" found that
someone is hosting a zipped Windows executable (apparently originally from
Garmin) that you run when the satnav is connected to your PC via a serial
cable, and it corrects whatever internally so that the date is reported
correctly.  Works like an absolute charm!  The program doesn't say it is
specifically for the GPS-III, so it might be using a standard
(undocumented, of course!) message that will work on a whole bunch of
receivers.  Might be worth giving it a try?  See:

 https://sites.google.com/site/gnbaddeley/GpsEow_V1.20_PC_Software.zip

Regards,

 Peter

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 14:01, David J Taylor via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

I checked today the GPS12XL I have, and that came up with a date in
August 99, before dying a few minutes later. Firmware 4.57.
[]
John

John,

I think my 12XL firmware 4.60 is OK.  Perhaps you can update the firmware?

Cheers,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv

I dug out my old Garmin GPS-III's (mid 1990's vintage !). The internal backup batteries had completely died after many years of non-use, so it took a while for them to find the satellites, but when they did, they, of course, came up with an August 1999 date. A quick "Google" found that someone is hosting a zipped Windows executable (apparently originally from Garmin) that you run when the satnav is connected to your PC via a serial cable, and it corrects whatever internally so that the date is reported correctly. Works like an absolute charm! The program doesn't say it is specifically for the GPS-III, so it might be using a standard (undocumented, of course!) message that will work on a whole bunch of receivers. Might be worth giving it a try? See: https://sites.google.com/site/gnbaddeley/GpsEow_V1.20_PC_Software.zip Regards, Peter On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 at 14:01, David J Taylor via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > I checked today the GPS12XL I have, and that came up with a date in > August 99, before dying a few minutes later. Firmware 4.57. > [] > John > ================================ > > John, > > I think my 12XL firmware 4.60 is OK. Perhaps you can update the firmware? > > Cheers, > David > -- > SatSignal Software - Quality software for you > Web: http://www.satsignal.eu > Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk > Twitter: @gm8arv > >
EH
Esa Heikkinen
Mon, Apr 8, 2019 9:39 PM

course, came up with an August 1999 date.  A quick "Google" found that
someone is hosting a zipped Windows executable (apparently originally from
Garmin) that you run when the satnav is connected to your PC via a serial
cable, and it corrects whatever internally so that the date is reported
correctly.  Works like an absolute charm!  The program doesn't say it is

Amazing! Now my GPS12 shows correct date again! Time is still not
exactly synced, but inside same second. Maybe it's display issue; too
slow rerfresh rate for accurate seconds.

My GPS12 was unused many years and had lost all settings. Last time I
used it in geocaching because it seems to perform better than smartphone
GPS in some difficult places like in forest.

--
73s!
Esa
OH4KJU

> course, came up with an August 1999 date. A quick "Google" found that > someone is hosting a zipped Windows executable (apparently originally from > Garmin) that you run when the satnav is connected to your PC via a serial > cable, and it corrects whatever internally so that the date is reported > correctly. Works like an absolute charm! The program doesn't say it is Amazing! Now my GPS12 shows correct date again! Time is still not exactly synced, but inside same second. Maybe it's display issue; too slow rerfresh rate for accurate seconds. My GPS12 was unused many years and had lost all settings. Last time I used it in geocaching because it seems to perform better than smartphone GPS in some difficult places like in forest. -- 73s! Esa OH4KJU
PB
Paul Bicknell
Tue, Apr 9, 2019 5:29 PM

Dear all

I have just rescued a Trimble 2101 Plus aircraft GPS

Can I  rescue a descent frequency standard from it

Regards Paul B

Dear all I have just rescued a Trimble 2101 Plus aircraft GPS Can I rescue a descent frequency standard from it Regards Paul B