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Stable32 now available

MJ
Matthias Jelen
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 9:30 AM

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias

Dear Time-Nuts, Happy New Year! Maybe this is of interest for some of you: A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download with the beginning of 2018. And here it is: https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/ Many thanks to Bill Riley! Best regards, Matthias
T
timeok@timeok.it
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 10:35 AM

Very interesting news.
It would be nice to be able to set the RS232 port to work with the TICC in real time.
Luciano
www.timeok.it

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Oggetto [time-nuts] Stable32 now available
Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias


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Very interesting news. It would be nice to be able to set the RS232 port to work with the TICC in real time. Luciano www.timeok.it Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-bounces@febo.com A "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@febo.com Cc Data Tue, 2 Jan 2018 10:30:45 +0100 Oggetto [time-nuts] Stable32 now available Dear Time-Nuts, Happy New Year! Maybe this is of interest for some of you: A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download with the beginning of 2018. And here it is: https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/ Many thanks to Bill Riley! Best regards, Matthias _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
MD
Magnus Danielson
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 11:05 AM

Hi,

Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.

Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
programmers here to nurture such a project over time.

If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
future from the community.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias


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Hi, Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing. Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine. The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github, preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced programmers here to nurture such a project over time. If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the future from the community. Cheers, Magnus On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote: > Dear Time-Nuts, > > Happy New Year! > > Maybe this is of interest for some of you: > > A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the > possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he > donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download > with the beginning of 2018. And here it is: > > https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/ > > > Many thanks to Bill Riley! > > Best regards, > > Matthias > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
PA
Paul Alfille
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 1:30 PM

Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org

wrote:

Hi,

Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.

Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
programmers here to nurture such a project over time.

If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
future from the community.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-

software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias


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Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary? On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org > wrote: > Hi, > > Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing. > > Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to > see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine. > > The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github, > preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of > people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced > programmers here to nurture such a project over time. > > If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the > future from the community. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote: > > Dear Time-Nuts, > > > > Happy New Year! > > > > Maybe this is of interest for some of you: > > > > A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the > > possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he > > donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download > > with the beginning of 2018. And here it is: > > > > https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control- > software/stable-32/ > > > > > > Many thanks to Bill Riley! > > > > Best regards, > > > > Matthias > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
BK
Bob kb8tq
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 2:02 PM

Hi

If the code also is part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I would suggest that there
are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does what it does. I have
no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big program with a lot of
research backing up it’s internals. It would be a “first ever” if all the footnotes and flow charts
were already in the code.

Bob

On Jan 2, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

Hi,

Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.

Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
programmers here to nurture such a project over time.

If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
future from the community.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias


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Hi If the code also *is* part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I would suggest that there are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does what it does. I have no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big program with a lot of research backing up it’s internals. It would be a “first ever” if all the footnotes and flow charts were already in the code. Bob > On Jan 2, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > > Hi, > > Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing. > > Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to > see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine. > > The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github, > preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of > people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced > programmers here to nurture such a project over time. > > If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the > future from the community. > > Cheers, > Magnus > > On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote: >> Dear Time-Nuts, >> >> Happy New Year! >> >> Maybe this is of interest for some of you: >> >> A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the >> possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he >> donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download >> with the beginning of 2018. And here it is: >> >> https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-software/stable-32/ >> >> >> Many thanks to Bill Riley! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Matthias >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
DD
Dr. David Kirkby
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 2:08 PM

On 2 January 2018 at 09:30, Matthias Jelen matthias.jelen@gmx.de wrote:

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated
Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download with the
beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control-
software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Given Hamilton Technical Services are no longer selling this, I wonder if
the author could be persuaded to release the source code under a GPL or
similar license.

Best regards,

Matthias

Dave

On 2 January 2018 at 09:30, Matthias Jelen <matthias.jelen@gmx.de> wrote: > Dear Time-Nuts, > > Happy New Year! > > Maybe this is of interest for some of you: > > A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the > possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he donated > Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download with the > beginning of 2018. And here it is: > > https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-control- > software/stable-32/ > > Many thanks to Bill Riley! > Given Hamilton Technical Services are no longer selling this, I wonder if the author could be persuaded to release the source code under a GPL or similar license. > > Best regards, > > Matthias > Dave
PS
paul swed
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 2:10 PM

Jelen
Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading
details.
I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages.
I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for
dummies book.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

If the code also is part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I
would suggest that there
are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does
what it does. I have
no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big
program with a lot of
research backing up it’s internals. It would be a “first ever” if all the
footnotes and flow charts
were already in the code.

Bob

On Jan 2, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org

wrote:

Hi,

Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing.

Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github,
preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of
people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced
programmers here to nurture such a project over time.

If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the
future from the community.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote:

Dear Time-Nuts,

Happy New Year!

Maybe this is of interest for some of you:

A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the
possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he
donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download
with the beginning of 2018. And here it is:

https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency-

control-software/stable-32/

Many thanks to Bill Riley!

Best regards,

Matthias


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Jelen Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading details. I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages. I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > If the code also *is* part of the deal (or becomes part of the deal) I > would suggest that there > are a series of papers in the “to be written” category about how it does > what it does. I have > no idea what the code looks like so this is in no way a knock. It’s a big > program with a lot of > research backing up it’s internals. It would be a “first ever” if all the > footnotes and flow charts > were already in the code. > > Bob > > > On Jan 2, 2018, at 6:05 AM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Very cool. That I ended up paying for my copy is another thing. > > > > Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to > > see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine. > > > > The best way to maintain the code would be for UFFC to put it on github, > > preferably with a suitable license. That way a shared community of > > people can contribute to it. I think we have enough experienced > > programmers here to nurture such a project over time. > > > > If we do that, I think Bill and UFFC will get the best support into the > > future from the community. > > > > Cheers, > > Magnus > > > > On 01/02/2018 10:30 AM, Matthias Jelen wrote: > >> Dear Time-Nuts, > >> > >> Happy New Year! > >> > >> Maybe this is of interest for some of you: > >> > >> A copy of Stable32 was on my wish-list for Christmas and I asked for the > >> possibility of a non-profit-license. Bill Riley informed me that he > >> donated Stable32 to IEEE UFFC and it will be available for free download > >> with the beginning of 2018. And here it is: > >> > >> https://ieee-uffc.org/frequency-control/frequency- > control-software/stable-32/ > >> > >> > >> Many thanks to Bill Riley! > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Matthias > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
DD
Dr. David Kirkby
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 2:38 PM

On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Jelen
Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading
details.
I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages.
I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for
dummies book.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

The manual is available as a book.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/paperback/product-3507840.html

I don't know about others, but I often find I absorb information better
reading a book than I do a computer screen, and at the cost of the book, it
is not really worth the hassle of printing it oneself. That said, the
software is 2017, and the book published in 2008, so there might be
significant differences between the book and software. Perhaps someone who
has both the book and the software, would comment if the book is very out
of date, or would still be useful.

Dave

On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > Jelen > Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading > details. > I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages. > I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for > dummies book. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > The manual is available as a book. http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-manual/paperback/product-3507840.html I don't know about others, but I often find I absorb information better reading a book than I do a computer screen, and at the cost of the book, it is not really worth the hassle of printing it oneself. That said, the software is 2017, and the book published in 2008, so there might be significant differences between the book and software. Perhaps someone who has both the book and the software, would comment if the book is very out of date, or would still be useful. Dave
PS
paul swed
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 2:44 PM

Dave I looked at the link. Expecting the typical $132 and up...
Its Lulu and $19.95. I have ordered books from them before and been very
happy with the product.
I can not answer your question on how up to date  it is. But will look at
the pdf.
If its even a bit decent the $ investment is cheap for a real book.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Dr. David Kirkby <
drkirkby@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:

On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Jelen
Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading
details.
I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages.
I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for
dummies book.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

The manual is available as a book.

http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user-
manual/paperback/product-3507840.html

I don't know about others, but I often find I absorb information better
reading a book than I do a computer screen, and at the cost of the book, it
is not really worth the hassle of printing it oneself. That said, the
software is 2017, and the book published in 2008, so there might be
significant differences between the book and software. Perhaps someone who
has both the book and the software, would comment if the book is very out
of date, or would still be useful.

Dave


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Dave I looked at the link. Expecting the typical $132 and up... Its Lulu and $19.95. I have ordered books from them before and been very happy with the product. I can not answer your question on how up to date it is. But will look at the pdf. If its even a bit decent the $ investment is cheap for a real book. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM, Dr. David Kirkby < drkirkby@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote: > On 2 January 2018 at 14:10, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Jelen > > Thank you for informing us about Stable32. I have been busy downloading > > details. > > I was surprised by the size of the use manual at some 348 pages. > > I believe I have a very long way to. I suspect we need a Stable32 for > > dummies book. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > > > The manual is available as a book. > > http://www.lulu.com/shop/william-riley/stable32-user- > manual/paperback/product-3507840.html > > I don't know about others, but I often find I absorb information better > reading a book than I do a computer screen, and at the cost of the book, it > is not really worth the hassle of printing it oneself. That said, the > software is 2017, and the book published in 2008, so there might be > significant differences between the book and software. Perhaps someone who > has both the book and the software, would comment if the book is very out > of date, or would still be useful. > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
TV
Tom Van Baak
Tue, Jan 2, 2018 2:46 PM

From "Paul Alfille" paul.alfille@gmail.com:
Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary?

I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information.

From "paul swed" paulswedb@gmail.com
I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book.

From "Magnus Danielson" magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org
Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to
see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine.

Stable32 seems highly integrated with the "graphic/win" plotting package (www.sciend.com). That may be one of the problems porting the code to unix. But hang on, and we'll let Bill tell us for sure.

From "Dr. David Kirkby" drkirkby@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk
Perhaps someone who has both the book and the software, would comment if
the book is very out of date, or would still be useful.

The book is wonderful. The software hasn't fundamentally changed.
Bill also maintains a fantastic site at http://www.wriley.com/ where you will find 100+ documents worth reading.

/tvb

> From "Paul Alfille" <paul.alfille@gmail.com>: > Is the code be available, or just the compiled binary? I've asked Bill for clarification and will relay any information. > From "paul swed" <paulswedb@gmail.com> > I suspect we need a Stable32 for dummies book. When I first started using Stable32 I tried to document each step. See examples like: http://leapsecond.com/pages/ahm-phm/maser1.htm http://leapsecond.com/pages/doug-rb/ http://leapsecond.com/pages/osa8607-dat/ http://leapsecond.com/pages/hp5065-dat/ http://leapsecond.com/pages/8607-drift/ > From "Magnus Danielson" <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> > Now, the code needs to be maintained. I personally also would like to > see it run natively on Linux, it does run on Linux under Wine. Stable32 seems highly integrated with the "graphic/win" plotting package (www.sciend.com). That may be one of the problems porting the code to unix. But hang on, and we'll let Bill tell us for sure. > From "Dr. David Kirkby" <drkirkby@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> > Perhaps someone who has both the book and the software, would comment if > the book is very out of date, or would still be useful. The book is wonderful. The software hasn't fundamentally changed. Bill also maintains a fantastic site at http://www.wriley.com/ where you will find 100+ documents worth reading. /tvb