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CRT for Tracor 527A

DC
David C. Partridge
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 9:01 PM

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, or?)
for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, or?) for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their worth :) at over 300 dollars Anyone got one to spare? Thanks Dave
PL
Pete Lancashire
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 9:12 PM

Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask
on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck.

-pete

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge <
david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, or?)
for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave


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Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck. -pete On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge < david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, or?) > for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. > > I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their > worth :) at over 300 dollars > > Anyone got one to spare? > > Thanks > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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paul swed
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 9:43 PM

Hello to the group.
I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should.
A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may
have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time.
Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for.
Best of luck to you.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire pete@petelancashire.com
wrote:

Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask
on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck.

-pete

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge <
david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11,

or?)

for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave


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Hello to the group. I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should. A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time. Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for. Best of luck to you. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire <pete@petelancashire.com> wrote: > Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask > on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck. > > -pete > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge < > david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > > > Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, > or?) > > for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. > > > > I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their > > worth :) at over 300 dollars > > > > Anyone got one to spare? > > > > Thanks > > Dave > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
BC
Brooke Clarke
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 10:00 PM

Hi:

Yes, there are Cathode "Rejuvenators" that can sometimes give a CRT some more lift.  This is a problem with all test
equipment that uses CRTs.  There are LCD replacements for the CRT in some HP equipment, like the 8566 SA.

--
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

-------- Original Message --------

Hello to the group.
I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should.
A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may
have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time.
Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for.
Best of luck to you.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire pete@petelancashire.com
wrote:

Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask
on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck.

-pete

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge <
david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11,

or?)

for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave


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Hi: Yes, there are Cathode "Rejuvenators" that can sometimes give a CRT some more lift. This is a problem with all test equipment that uses CRTs. There are LCD replacements for the CRT in some HP equipment, like the 8566 SA. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html -------- Original Message -------- > Hello to the group. > I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should. > A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may > have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time. > Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for. > Best of luck to you. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire <pete@petelancashire.com> > wrote: > >> Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask >> on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck. >> >> -pete >> >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge < >> david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, >> or?) >>> for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. >>> >>> I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their >>> worth :) at over 300 dollars >>> >>> Anyone got one to spare? >>> >>> Thanks >>> Dave >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
CJ
Clint Jay
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 10:06 PM

A little extra heater voltage and allowing the tube to 'cook' a while can
help as can a CRT rejuvenator but the cathode is usually tiny on a mono
tube and  from experience with television repairs back in the dawn of my
career, they very rarely last any length of time after rejuvenation before
emission dies off again.

YMMV, a NOS tube may respond better and if you've gone from nothing to
something it may be worth taking the gamble, especially if the tube you're
replacing is badly burned in.

On 20 Jun 2017 11:00 pm, "Brooke Clarke" brooke@pacific.net wrote:

Hi:

Yes, there are Cathode "Rejuvenators" that can sometimes give a CRT some
more lift.  This is a problem with all test equipment that uses CRTs.
There are LCD replacements for the CRT in some HP equipment, like the 8566
SA.

--
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

-------- Original Message --------

Hello to the group.
I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should.
A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may
have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time.
Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for.
Best of luck to you.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire <pete@petelancashire.com

wrote:

Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask

on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck.

-pete

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge <
david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11,

or?)

for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of
their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave


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A little extra heater voltage and allowing the tube to 'cook' a while can help as can a CRT rejuvenator but the cathode is usually tiny on a mono tube and from experience with television repairs back in the dawn of my career, they very rarely last any length of time after rejuvenation before emission dies off again. YMMV, a NOS tube may respond better and if you've gone from nothing to something it may be worth taking the gamble, especially if the tube you're replacing is badly burned in. On 20 Jun 2017 11:00 pm, "Brooke Clarke" <brooke@pacific.net> wrote: > Hi: > > Yes, there are Cathode "Rejuvenators" that can sometimes give a CRT some > more lift. This is a problem with all test equipment that uses CRTs. > There are LCD replacements for the CRT in some HP equipment, like the 8566 > SA. > > -- > Have Fun, > > Brooke Clarke > http://www.PRC68.com > http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> Hello to the group. >> I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should. >> A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may >> have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time. >> Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for. >> Best of luck to you. >> Regards >> Paul >> WB8TSL >> >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire <pete@petelancashire.com >> > >> wrote: >> >> Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. Ask >>> on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck. >>> >>> -pete >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge < >>> david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>> Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, >>>> >>> or?) >>> >>>> for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. >>>> >>>> I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of >>>> their >>>> worth :) at over 300 dollars >>>> >>>> Anyone got one to spare? >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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paul swed
Tue, Jun 20, 2017 11:20 PM

A suggestion.
$300 does seem a lot for a gamble.
But if it really gets bad you can buy any scope and plumb it in and get
what you need.
Clearly an OK answer. But a thought none the less.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Clint Jay cjaysharp@gmail.com wrote:

A little extra heater voltage and allowing the tube to 'cook' a while can
help as can a CRT rejuvenator but the cathode is usually tiny on a mono
tube and  from experience with television repairs back in the dawn of my
career, they very rarely last any length of time after rejuvenation before
emission dies off again.

YMMV, a NOS tube may respond better and if you've gone from nothing to
something it may be worth taking the gamble, especially if the tube you're
replacing is badly burned in.

On 20 Jun 2017 11:00 pm, "Brooke Clarke" brooke@pacific.net wrote:

Hi:

Yes, there are Cathode "Rejuvenators" that can sometimes give a CRT some
more lift.  This is a problem with all test equipment that uses CRTs.
There are LCD replacements for the CRT in some HP equipment, like the

8566

SA.

--
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

-------- Original Message --------

Hello to the group.
I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should.
A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may
have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time.
Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for.
Best of luck to you.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire <

wrote:

Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago.

Ask

on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck.

-pete

On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge <
david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11,

or?)

for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of
their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave


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A suggestion. $300 does seem a lot for a gamble. But if it really gets bad you can buy any scope and plumb it in and get what you need. Clearly an OK answer. But a thought none the less. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 6:06 PM, Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> wrote: > A little extra heater voltage and allowing the tube to 'cook' a while can > help as can a CRT rejuvenator but the cathode is usually tiny on a mono > tube and from experience with television repairs back in the dawn of my > career, they very rarely last any length of time after rejuvenation before > emission dies off again. > > YMMV, a NOS tube may respond better and if you've gone from nothing to > something it may be worth taking the gamble, especially if the tube you're > replacing is badly burned in. > > On 20 Jun 2017 11:00 pm, "Brooke Clarke" <brooke@pacific.net> wrote: > > > Hi: > > > > Yes, there are Cathode "Rejuvenators" that can sometimes give a CRT some > > more lift. This is a problem with all test equipment that uses CRTs. > > There are LCD replacements for the CRT in some HP equipment, like the > 8566 > > SA. > > > > -- > > Have Fun, > > > > Brooke Clarke > > http://www.PRC68.com > > http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > >> Hello to the group. > >> I was not going to comment on the thread. But realized I should. > >> A caution on CRTs is that if they have been around a long time they may > >> have very poor emissions. Even if new. Cathode pollutes over time. > >> Just saying don't be to surprised if you don't get what you paid for. > >> Best of luck to you. > >> Regards > >> Paul > >> WB8TSL > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Pete Lancashire < > pete@petelancashire.com > >> > > >> wrote: > >> > >> Not rare but uncommon. I gave the one I have away a couple years ago. > Ask > >>> on a few of he military/boatanchor lists, I've had pretty good luck. > >>> > >>> -pete > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 2:01 PM, David C. Partridge < > >>> david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > >>> > >>> Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, > >>>> > >>> or?) > >>> > >>>> for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. > >>>> > >>>> I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of > >>>> their > >>>> worth :) at over 300 dollars > >>>> > >>>> Anyone got one to spare? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>> and follow the instructions there. > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Bill S
Wed, Jun 21, 2017 8:53 PM

Dave,
I have a complete 527A with a slightly screwed up case (someone removed
the handles and smoothed the edges!) that was working when I last used
it about 6 years ago. The crt at the time was good and working. I had
planned to put it on ebay but never got around to it. Email me off list
if you're interested.
On 6/20/2017 5:01 PM, David C. Partridge wrote:

Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, or?)
for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter.

I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their
worth :) at over 300 dollars

Anyone got one to spare?

Thanks
Dave


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Dave, I have a complete 527A with a slightly screwed up case (someone removed the handles and smoothed the edges!) that was working when I last used it about 6 years ago. The crt at the time was good and working. I had planned to put it on ebay but never got around to it. Email me off list if you're interested. On 6/20/2017 5:01 PM, David C. Partridge wrote: > Trying a long shot here, I'm looking for a 1" CRT type 1EP1 (or 1EP11, or?) > for a Tracor 527A Frequency Difference Meter. > > I did spot some on eBay but the vendor had a rather high opinion of their > worth :) at over 300 dollars > > Anyone got one to spare? > > Thanks > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
DC
David C. Partridge
Wed, Jun 21, 2017 9:58 PM

My message to Dan Rea are bouncing, so please forgive the BW:

Dan,

Hang fire please - I just got this baby hooked up and there's been some creative wire cutting done.

The supplies for the CRT have been cut at the trafo.

It needs lots of TLC as its not actually working right now - fun ahead.

If I can get the basic function working then I'll get back to you about the tube.

PS Sympathies for the chemo BTW, Mary (my better half) has been there twice  ...

Dave

My message to Dan Rea are bouncing, so please forgive the BW: Dan, Hang fire please - I just got this baby hooked up and there's been some creative wire cutting done. The supplies for the CRT have been cut at the trafo. It needs lots of TLC as its not actually working right now - fun ahead. If I can get the basic function working then I'll get back to you about the tube. PS Sympathies for the chemo BTW, Mary (my better half) has been there twice ... Dave