RB
Rick Bale
Sun, Mar 29, 2020 1:40 AM
Joe, the ebay seller of the ROMs is going to confirm on Monday that they
are indeed the TMS2564JS and then ship them they'll be here pretty fast.
My current computers and laptops do not have serial or pci connectors.
USB is all they have. No easy top find a USB based programmer that also
reports that it has 25v VPP. I may end up taking you up on the reprogram
effort in a few days when they arrive.
Rick
Rick,
I'm in NW FL.
If you don't have the 'spare' chips, I'll look to see if I have any. I
presume you need the TMS2564JL.
Can you send me a picture of the chips? I'll look in my meters and see if
I
have the same revision. If so, and they are in a socket, I can read my
chips and compare to yours. I can also label the chips if you (or I) have
some 'spare' chips.
Regarding the programmers, you might look for BP Microsystems BP-1200 or
later and Advin MVP or U84 or similar. The software will run on WinXP and
is downloadable from their respective sites. The software is relatively
intuitive and user friendly. You can also research which chips are
supported by the programmers. They were the programmers when these EPROM's
were being widely used.
I learned the hard way that it is important that your chip be specifically
supported by your programmer. Some of the TI TMS chips were not widely
supported though I think the TMS2564 was more universally supported.
Happy to help.
Joe
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Rick
Bale
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:37 AM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Joe,
I'm in So FL. and may have to take you up on the reprogramming. The
programmer I ordered will fall short. Even the 6 ROM chips I ordered had
the correct description (TMS2564JL) but the picture (KMS2816AP) was wrong.
I'm waiting on a reply from the seller to confirm if he was selling my
target chip or the KMS #.
I would want to do what you described. Archive the original programming,
erase them, then program in the 6 images. Where are you located?
Does anyone know how to switch volt-nuts from digest version to individual
emailed version?
Rick
rpbale at gmail.com
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 01:41:45 +0100
From: Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
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Hello Rick,
I hesitated to give an advice for a good programmer for some reasons,
sorry for being late, now.
I also bought the latest TL866II plus, from the original manufacturer,
which I can highly recommend for more recent non volatile components.
There's a long history behind this programmer, as older versions like
the CS had been copied by other Chinese ..uum.. garage companies, I
assume.. therefore the original manufacturer XGECU terminated all these
older versions some time ago, so I hope your CS version is?
'compatible', or 'old stock', or you should make sure it is anything of
both, before attempting to make a firmware update.. as far as I
remember.. there's been a long discussion on eevblog about this
programmer, and stuck FW updates, especially on clones. Best is to avoid
these updates, anyhow.
The 2nd problem with the recent version which I have is, that it is not
able to program very old EPROMs which require high programming voltages
like 25V or even 21V, (I didn't test that yet on my old stock), so your
EPROMs might fall into this category.. and if the CS version (either
compatible or original) is still able to program one of these, I don't
know. The operating software will tell, hopefully, otherwise the eevblog
thread.
So my recommendation is, to carefully check the type of your old EPROMs.
I strongly assume that you will be able to safely read their content.
But you should order compatible newer EPROMs, OTPs, or FLASH parts,
which the programmer can handle for sure, i.e. search inside its parts
library, please.
Frank
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:12:09 +0100
From: Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: e6fbbb2b-3395-b9c2-d08b-4bb1a40dcc65@freenet.de
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
I have found again the original distributor/manufacturer site, where I
bought (via e..y) the TL866II+ with the whole set of adapters:
http://www.autoelectric.cn/en/tl866_main.html
So the II+ can only handle +18Vpp, and the CS up to +21Vpp, so
programming the old +25Vpp types (2708, 2716 and similar) are not
supported.
The whole discussion on eevblog can be found here:
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To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Cc:
Bcc:
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:47:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
David, I went to double check if I physically have 2564 or 2764 and I
discovered all the ROMs were in the wrong spots but not backwards like
ram chips earlier. Wow. I corrected my TMS2564JS ROMs according to
looked like original stickers. I rebooted and had for the first time a
continuous beep. The LEDs all stayed on with a dead screen. I shut it
off. On second boot the beep was gone but the front panel was the same.
Overall no improvement. The physical chip numbers match the
part number.
I ordered the MiniPro TL866CS USB in the Plus version to burn the ROMs.
will arrive on 4/1. Is it worth it to erase/reprogram the same ROM or
should I just replace/program them.
Rick
Depending on exactly which CPU board you have you need either TMS2564
(early
boards) or TMS2764 (late boards) EPROMS
David
Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:24:24 +0000
From: Andre Andre@Lanoe.net
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 1585304664509.18014@Lanoe.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I also have UV EPROM erasers.
Joe
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L.
Trantham
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Rick,
Where are you located?
I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
since
I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
Rick
Bale
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
sequence.
Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
reader/writer?
Thanks all, Rick
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
I've order 6 ICs straight away.
Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
These look to be direct replacements.
Rick
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3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
Rick
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
Bruce
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
and follow the instructions there.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rick,
ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
new ROMS as you need.
There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
Andre
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I also have UV EPROM erasers.
Joe
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L.
Trantham
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Rick,
Where are you located?
I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
since
I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
Rick
Bale
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
sequence.
Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
reader/writer?
Thanks all, Rick
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
I've order 6 ICs straight away.
Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
These look to be direct replacements.
Rick
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3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
Rick
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
Bruce
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
and follow the instructions there.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rick,
ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
new ROMS as you need.
There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
other methods.
Larger units with high capacity can indeed be used, the other
is mounting the tube
on a rotary platform with a small battery pack over the items to be
treated.
Also this can be combined with direct feedback of UV intensity and
reflection so as not to overdrive
the tube and ensure verification that the items are sterile.
-Andre
From: volt-nuts volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com on behalf of J.
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 12:23
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
It can accommodate only about 6-8 EPROMs at a time and it takes about
Andre
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I also have UV EPROM erasers.
Joe
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L.
Trantham
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Rick,
Where are you located?
I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
since
I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
Rick
Bale
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
sequence.
Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
reader/writer?
Thanks all, Rick
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
I've order 6 ICs straight away.
Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
These look to be direct replacements.
Rick
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3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
Rick
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
Bruce
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
and follow the instructions there.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rick,
ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
new ROMS as you need.
There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
Joe, the ebay seller of the ROMs is going to confirm on Monday that they
are indeed the TMS2564JS and then ship them they'll be here pretty fast.
My current computers and laptops do not have serial or pci connectors.
USB is all they have. No easy top find a USB based programmer that also
reports that it has 25v VPP. I may end up taking you up on the reprogram
effort in a few days when they arrive.
Rick
----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'm in NW FL.
>
> If you don't have the 'spare' chips, I'll look to see if I have any. I
> presume you need the TMS2564JL.
>
> Can you send me a picture of the chips? I'll look in my meters and see if
> I
> have the same revision. If so, and they are in a socket, I can read my
> chips and compare to yours. I can also label the chips if you (or I) have
> some 'spare' chips.
>
> Regarding the programmers, you might look for BP Microsystems BP-1200 or
> later and Advin MVP or U84 or similar. The software will run on WinXP and
> is downloadable from their respective sites. The software is relatively
> intuitive and user friendly. You can also research which chips are
> supported by the programmers. They were the programmers when these EPROM's
> were being widely used.
>
> I learned the hard way that it is important that your chip be specifically
> supported by your programmer. Some of the TI TMS chips were not widely
> supported though I think the TMS2564 was more universally supported.
>
> Happy to help.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick
> Bale
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:37 AM
> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
>
> Joe,
>
> I'm in So FL. and may have to take you up on the reprogramming. The
> programmer I ordered will fall short. Even the 6 ROM chips I ordered had
> the correct description (TMS2564JL) but the picture (KMS2816AP) was wrong.
> I'm waiting on a reply from the seller to confirm if he was selling my
> target chip or the KMS #.
>
> I would want to do what you described. Archive the original programming,
> erase them, then program in the 6 images. Where are you located?
>
> Does anyone know how to switch volt-nuts from digest version to individual
> emailed version?
>
> Rick
> rpbale at gmail.com
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:56 AM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>
> > Send volt-nuts mailing list submissions to
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> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> > than "Re: Contents of volt-nuts digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Solartron 7081 (Frank Stellmach)
> > 2. Solartron 7081 (Frank Stellmach)
> > 3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 01:41:45 +0100
> > From: Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de>
> > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > Message-ID: <a8c693ff-73f6-7776-4dbc-c90d7a5eedf4@freenet.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Hello Rick,
> >
> > I hesitated to give an advice for a good programmer for some reasons,
> > sorry for being late, now.
> >
> > I also bought the latest TL866II plus, from the original manufacturer,
> > which I can highly recommend for more recent non volatile components.
> >
> > There's a long history behind this programmer, as older versions like
> > the CS had been copied by other Chinese ..uum.. garage companies, I
> > assume.. therefore the original manufacturer XGECU terminated all these
> > older versions some time ago, so I hope your CS version is?
> > 'compatible', or 'old stock', or you should make sure it is anything of
> > both, before attempting to make a firmware update.. as far as I
> > remember.. there's been a long discussion on eevblog about this
> > programmer, and stuck FW updates, especially on clones. Best is to avoid
> > these updates, anyhow.
> >
> > The 2nd problem with the recent version which I have is, that it is not
> > able to program very old EPROMs which require high programming voltages
> > like 25V or even 21V, (I didn't test that yet on my old stock), so your
> > EPROMs might fall into this category.. and if the CS version (either
> > compatible or original) is still able to program one of these, I don't
> > know. The operating software will tell, hopefully, otherwise the eevblog
> > thread.
> >
> > So my recommendation is, to carefully check the type of your old EPROMs.
> > I strongly assume that you will be able to safely read their content.
> > But you should order compatible newer EPROMs, OTPs, or FLASH parts,
> > which the programmer can handle for sure, i.e. search inside its parts
> > library, please.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:12:09 +0100
> > From: Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de>
> > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > Message-ID: <e6fbbb2b-3395-b9c2-d08b-4bb1a40dcc65@freenet.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > I have found again the original distributor/manufacturer site, where I
> > bought (via e..y) the TL866II+ with the whole set of adapters:
> >
> > http://www.autoelectric.cn/en/tl866_main.html
> >
> > So the II+ can only handle +18Vpp, and the CS up to +21Vpp, so
> > programming the old +25Vpp types (2708, 2716 and similar) are not
> > supported.
> >
> > The whole discussion on eevblog can be found here:
> >
> >
> >
>
> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-progr
> ammer-review/
> <https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/>
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:55:18 -0400
> > From: Rick Bale <rpbale@gmail.com>
> > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> > CAD2Mu-NT_10nt7gw2KQitdgXUrBed6Zxt+XC3H1MWaF1KHzD3Q@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Frank, I'm glad you did reply. I checked my spec sheet and the ROMs do
> > require 25v VPP and the programmer caps at 18v. I've requested to cancel
> > the shipment but likely to late. I will go back on the hunt for the 25v
> > VPP.
> >
> > Thanks Rick
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > Cc:
> > > Bcc:
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:47:07 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
> > > David, I went to double check if I physically have 2564 or 2764 and I
> > > discovered all the ROMs were in the wrong spots but not backwards like
> > the
> > > ram chips earlier. Wow. I corrected my TMS2564JS ROMs according to
> what
> > > looked like original stickers. I rebooted and had for the first time a
> > > continuous beep. The LEDs all stayed on with a dead screen. I shut it
> > > off. On second boot the beep was gone but the front panel was the same.
> > > Overall no improvement. The physical chip numbers match the
> schematic's
> > > part number.
> > >
> > > I ordered the MiniPro TL866CS USB in the Plus version to burn the ROMs.
> > It
> > > will arrive on 4/1. Is it worth it to erase/reprogram the same ROM or
> > > should I just replace/program them.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:22:27 -0000
> > > > From: "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk>
> > > > To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'"
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <008201d60421$9e4df7b0$dae9e710$@perdrix.co.uk>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >
> > > > You'll find the ROM images here:
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071
> > > > %20and%207081
> > > > <
> > >
> >
>
> https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%
> 20and%207081
> <https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Depending on exactly which CPU board you have you need either TMS2564
> > > > (early
> > > > boards) or TMS2764 (late boards) EPROMS
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:24:24 +0000
> > > > From: Andre <Andre@Lanoe.net>
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <1585304664509.18014@Lanoe.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
> > of
> > > > them?
> > > > One big problem is that these are in short supply.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I also have UV EPROM erasers.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > J.
> > > > L.
> > > > Trantham
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you located?
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
> > most
> > > > any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > >From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
> years
> > > > since
> > > > I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
> EPROM's
> > > are.
> > > >
> > > > Happy to help if I can.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
> > > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
> > > > wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
> > +5v
> > > > and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
> > just
> > > > stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
> up
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
> > can
> > > > find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
> > start? I
> > > > need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
> > can
> > > > run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
> a
> > > > virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
> > > compare
> > > > it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
> xdevs,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
> > > eprom
> > > > world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
> > and
> > > > everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
> > chips,
> > > > is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
> > > > reader/writer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've order 6 ICs straight away.
> > > > > Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
> > > > >
> > > > > These look to be direct replacements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Send volt-nuts mailing list submissions to
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> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Today's Topics:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> > > > >> 2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
> > > > >> 3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 1
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:05:38 -0400
> > > > >> From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <44537A00-3FB7-4BF3-A425-4B7546C836DE@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 2
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
> > > > >> From: Bruce Griffiths <bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
> > > > >> connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bruce
> > > > >> > On 15 March 2020 at 11:05 Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
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> > > > >> > and follow the instructions there.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 3
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:17:38 +0000
> > > > >> From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID:
> > > > >> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> MWHPR22MB01426F76421B8001E6791B0ADAFB0@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.c
> > > > om
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
> > > > >> archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
> > > burn
> > > > >> new ROMS as you need.
> > > > >> There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
> eevblog
> > > > >> forum which are certainly worth reading.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shaun Merrigan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> On Behalf Of
> > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@lists.febo.com To
> unsubscribe,
> > go
> > > > to
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> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Subject: Digest Footer
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> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
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> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 07:23:50 -0500
> > > > From: "J. L. Trantham" <jltran@att.net>
> > > > To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'"
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <014f01d60432$9333f4e0$b99bdea0$@att.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >
> > > > It can accommodate only about 6-8 EPROMs at a time and it takes about
> > an
> > > > hour to erase them. Not really designed for 'high volume'.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Andre
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
> > of
> > > > them?
> > > > One big problem is that these are in short supply.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I also have UV EPROM erasers.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > J.
> > > > L.
> > > > Trantham
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you located?
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
> > most
> > > > any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > >From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
> years
> > > > since
> > > > I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
> EPROM's
> > > are.
> > > >
> > > > Happy to help if I can.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
> > > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
> > > > wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
> > +5v
> > > > and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
> > just
> > > > stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
> up
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
> > can
> > > > find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
> > start? I
> > > > need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
> > can
> > > > run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
> a
> > > > virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
> > > compare
> > > > it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
> xdevs,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
> > > eprom
> > > > world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
> > and
> > > > everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
> > chips,
> > > > is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
> > > > reader/writer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've order 6 ICs straight away.
> > > > > Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
> > > > >
> > > > > These look to be direct replacements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Send volt-nuts mailing list submissions to
> > > > >> volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > > > >>
> > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts_lists.febo.com
> > > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > > >> volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > > >> volt-nuts-owner@lists.febo.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
> specific
> > > > >> than "Re: Contents of volt-nuts digest..."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Today's Topics:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> > > > >> 2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
> > > > >> 3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 1
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:05:38 -0400
> > > > >> From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <44537A00-3FB7-4BF3-A425-4B7546C836DE@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 2
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
> > > > >> From: Bruce Griffiths <bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
> > > > >> connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bruce
> > > > >> > On 15 March 2020 at 11:05 Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick
> > > > >> >
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> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 3
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:17:38 +0000
> > > > >> From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID:
> > > > >> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> MWHPR22MB01426F76421B8001E6791B0ADAFB0@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.c
> > > > om
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
> > > > >> archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
> > > burn
> > > > >> new ROMS as you need.
> > > > >> There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
> eevblog
> > > > >> forum which are certainly worth reading.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shaun Merrigan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> On Behalf Of
> > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
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> > > > Message: 4
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:36:05 +0000
> > > > From: Andre <Andre@Lanoe.net>
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <1585312565531.39936@Lanoe.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Better than nothing. I am thinking about using them to sterilize
> > > > glassware, 96 well plates etc.
> > > > Also useful for making control vials as sterility can be guaranteed
> > > unlike
> > > > other methods.
> > > >
> > > > Larger units with high capacity can indeed be used, the other
> > possibility
> > > > is mounting the tube
> > > > on a rotary platform with a small battery pack over the items to be
> > > > treated.
> > > > Also this can be combined with direct feedback of UV intensity and
> > > > reflection so as not to overdrive
> > > > the tube and ensure verification that the items are sterile.
> > > >
> > > > -Andre
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 12:23
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > It can accommodate only about 6-8 EPROMs at a time and it takes about
> > an
> > > > hour to erase them. Not really designed for 'high volume'.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Andre
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
> > of
> > > > them?
> > > > One big problem is that these are in short supply.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I also have UV EPROM erasers.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > J.
> > > > L.
> > > > Trantham
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you located?
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
> > most
> > > > any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > >From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
> years
> > > > since
> > > > I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
> EPROM's
> > > are.
> > > >
> > > > Happy to help if I can.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
> > > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
> > > > wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
> > +5v
> > > > and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
> > just
> > > > stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
> up
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
> > can
> > > > find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
> > start? I
> > > > need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
> > can
> > > > run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
> a
> > > > virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
> > > compare
> > > > it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
> xdevs,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
> > > eprom
> > > > world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
> > and
> > > > everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
> > chips,
> > > > is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
> > > > reader/writer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've order 6 ICs straight away.
> > > > > Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
> > > > >
> > > > > These look to be direct replacements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> >
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> > > > >> 1. Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> > > > >> 2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
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> > > > >> Message: 1
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:05:38 -0400
> > > > >> From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <44537A00-3FB7-4BF3-A425-4B7546C836DE@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 2
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
> > > > >> From: Bruce Griffiths <bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
> > > > >> connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bruce
> > > > >> > On 15 March 2020 at 11:05 Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick
> > > > >> >
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> > > > >> ------------------------------
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> > > > >> Message: 3
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:17:38 +0000
> > > > >> From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID:
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> >
>
> MWHPR22MB01426F76421B8001E6791B0ADAFB0@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.c
> > > > om
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
> > > > >> archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
> > > burn
> > > > >> new ROMS as you need.
> > > > >> There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
> eevblog
> > > > >> forum which are certainly worth reading.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shaun Merrigan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> On Behalf Of
> > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
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Andre
Sun, Mar 29, 2020 8:25 AM
Just a thought. I experimented a while ago with building an eprom programmer.
Main problem is lack of any working 4040's but possible to use a homemade counter run through diode
transistor logic to generate the program patterns and a $2 micro as the pattern source.
It would be a ridiculously long winded way to program but if it takes 4 hours no biggie.
Also handy for verification: compare the chip with another known good using bicolour LEDs to verify that
the programmer is working properly.
Incidentally if you need a serial port try a very old phone. Many of the earlier ones had the capability
and this is how they were programmed at the factory with the bootloader.
-A
From: volt-nuts volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com on behalf of Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
Sent: 29 March 2020 02:40
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Joe, the ebay seller of the ROMs is going to confirm on Monday that they
are indeed the TMS2564JS and then ship them they'll be here pretty fast.
My current computers and laptops do not have serial or pci connectors.
USB is all they have. No easy top find a USB based programmer that also
reports that it has 25v VPP. I may end up taking you up on the reprogram
effort in a few days when they arrive.
Rick
Rick,
I'm in NW FL.
If you don't have the 'spare' chips, I'll look to see if I have any. I
presume you need the TMS2564JL.
Can you send me a picture of the chips? I'll look in my meters and see if
I
have the same revision. If so, and they are in a socket, I can read my
chips and compare to yours. I can also label the chips if you (or I) have
some 'spare' chips.
Regarding the programmers, you might look for BP Microsystems BP-1200 or
later and Advin MVP or U84 or similar. The software will run on WinXP and
is downloadable from their respective sites. The software is relatively
intuitive and user friendly. You can also research which chips are
supported by the programmers. They were the programmers when these EPROM's
were being widely used.
I learned the hard way that it is important that your chip be specifically
supported by your programmer. Some of the TI TMS chips were not widely
supported though I think the TMS2564 was more universally supported.
Happy to help.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of
Rick
Bale
Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:37 AM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Joe,
I'm in So FL. and may have to take you up on the reprogramming. The
programmer I ordered will fall short. Even the 6 ROM chips I ordered had
the correct description (TMS2564JL) but the picture (KMS2816AP) was wrong.
I'm waiting on a reply from the seller to confirm if he was selling my
target chip or the KMS #.
I would want to do what you described. Archive the original programming,
erase them, then program in the 6 images. Where are you located?
Does anyone know how to switch volt-nuts from digest version to individual
emailed version?
Rick
rpbale at gmail.com
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1. Solartron 7081 (Frank Stellmach)
2. Solartron 7081 (Frank Stellmach)
3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 01:41:45 +0100
From: Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
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Hello Rick,
I hesitated to give an advice for a good programmer for some reasons,
sorry for being late, now.
I also bought the latest TL866II plus, from the original manufacturer,
which I can highly recommend for more recent non volatile components.
There's a long history behind this programmer, as older versions like
the CS had been copied by other Chinese ..uum.. garage companies, I
assume.. therefore the original manufacturer XGECU terminated all these
older versions some time ago, so I hope your CS version is?
'compatible', or 'old stock', or you should make sure it is anything of
both, before attempting to make a firmware update.. as far as I
remember.. there's been a long discussion on eevblog about this
programmer, and stuck FW updates, especially on clones. Best is to avoid
these updates, anyhow.
The 2nd problem with the recent version which I have is, that it is not
able to program very old EPROMs which require high programming voltages
like 25V or even 21V, (I didn't test that yet on my old stock), so your
EPROMs might fall into this category.. and if the CS version (either
compatible or original) is still able to program one of these, I don't
know. The operating software will tell, hopefully, otherwise the eevblog
thread.
So my recommendation is, to carefully check the type of your old EPROMs.
I strongly assume that you will be able to safely read their content.
But you should order compatible newer EPROMs, OTPs, or FLASH parts,
which the programmer can handle for sure, i.e. search inside its parts
library, please.
Frank
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:12:09 +0100
From: Frank Stellmach frank.stellmach@freenet.de
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
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I have found again the original distributor/manufacturer site, where I
bought (via e..y) the TL866II+ with the whole set of adapters:
http://www.autoelectric.cn/en/tl866_main.html
So the II+ can only handle +18Vpp, and the CS up to +21Vpp, so
programming the old +25Vpp types (2708, 2716 and similar) are not
supported.
The whole discussion on eevblog can be found here:
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:47:07 -0400
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
David, I went to double check if I physically have 2564 or 2764 and I
discovered all the ROMs were in the wrong spots but not backwards like
ram chips earlier. Wow. I corrected my TMS2564JS ROMs according to
looked like original stickers. I rebooted and had for the first time a
continuous beep. The LEDs all stayed on with a dead screen. I shut it
off. On second boot the beep was gone but the front panel was the same.
Overall no improvement. The physical chip numbers match the
part number.
I ordered the MiniPro TL866CS USB in the Plus version to burn the ROMs.
will arrive on 4/1. Is it worth it to erase/reprogram the same ROM or
should I just replace/program them.
Rick
Depending on exactly which CPU board you have you need either TMS2564
(early
boards) or TMS2764 (late boards) EPROMS
David
Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:24:24 +0000
From: Andre Andre@Lanoe.net
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
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Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I also have UV EPROM erasers.
Joe
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L.
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Rick,
Where are you located?
I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
since
I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
Rick
Bale
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
sequence.
Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
reader/writer?
Thanks all, Rick
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
I've order 6 ICs straight away.
Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
These look to be direct replacements.
Rick
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2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
Rick
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
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Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
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If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
Bruce
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
and follow the instructions there.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rick,
ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
new ROMS as you need.
There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
Andre
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I also have UV EPROM erasers.
Joe
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L.
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Rick,
Where are you located?
I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
since
I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
Rick
Bale
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
sequence.
Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
reader/writer?
Thanks all, Rick
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
I've order 6 ICs straight away.
Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
These look to be direct replacements.
Rick
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2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
Rick
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz
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If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
Bruce
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
and follow the instructions there.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rick,
ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
new ROMS as you need.
There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
other methods.
Larger units with high capacity can indeed be used, the other
is mounting the tube
on a rotary platform with a small battery pack over the items to be
treated.
Also this can be combined with direct feedback of UV intensity and
reflection so as not to overdrive
the tube and ensure verification that the items are sterile.
-Andre
From: volt-nuts volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com on behalf of J.
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 12:23
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
It can accommodate only about 6-8 EPROMs at a time and it takes about
Andre
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
Trantham jltran@att.net
Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I also have UV EPROM erasers.
Joe
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L.
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Rick,
Where are you located?
I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
since
I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
Rick
Bale
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
sequence.
Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
reader/writer?
Thanks all, Rick
On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale rpbale@bellsouth.net
I've order 6 ICs straight away.
Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
These look to be direct replacements.
Rick
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2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
Rick
Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
From: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz
To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Message-ID: 1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
Bruce
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
and follow the instructions there.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Rick,
ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
new ROMS as you need.
There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
upper logic board.
This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
Just a thought. I experimented a while ago with building an eprom programmer.
Main problem is lack of any working 4040's but possible to use a homemade counter run through diode
transistor logic to generate the program patterns and a $2 micro as the pattern source.
It would be a ridiculously long winded way to program but if it takes 4 hours no biggie.
Also handy for verification: compare the chip with another known good using bicolour LEDs to verify that
the programmer is working properly.
Incidentally if you need a serial port try a very old phone. Many of the earlier ones had the capability
and this is how they were programmed at the factory with the bootloader.
-A
________________________________________
From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
Sent: 29 March 2020 02:40
To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
Joe, the ebay seller of the ROMs is going to confirm on Monday that they
are indeed the TMS2564JS and then ship them they'll be here pretty fast.
My current computers and laptops do not have serial or pci connectors.
USB is all they have. No easy top find a USB based programmer that also
reports that it has 25v VPP. I may end up taking you up on the reprogram
effort in a few days when they arrive.
Rick
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>
>
>
> Rick,
>
> I'm in NW FL.
>
> If you don't have the 'spare' chips, I'll look to see if I have any. I
> presume you need the TMS2564JL.
>
> Can you send me a picture of the chips? I'll look in my meters and see if
> I
> have the same revision. If so, and they are in a socket, I can read my
> chips and compare to yours. I can also label the chips if you (or I) have
> some 'spare' chips.
>
> Regarding the programmers, you might look for BP Microsystems BP-1200 or
> later and Advin MVP or U84 or similar. The software will run on WinXP and
> is downloadable from their respective sites. The software is relatively
> intuitive and user friendly. You can also research which chips are
> supported by the programmers. They were the programmers when these EPROM's
> were being widely used.
>
> I learned the hard way that it is important that your chip be specifically
> supported by your programmer. Some of the TI TMS chips were not widely
> supported though I think the TMS2564 was more universally supported.
>
> Happy to help.
>
> Joe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of
> Rick
> Bale
> Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:37 AM
> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
>
> Joe,
>
> I'm in So FL. and may have to take you up on the reprogramming. The
> programmer I ordered will fall short. Even the 6 ROM chips I ordered had
> the correct description (TMS2564JL) but the picture (KMS2816AP) was wrong.
> I'm waiting on a reply from the seller to confirm if he was selling my
> target chip or the KMS #.
>
> I would want to do what you described. Archive the original programming,
> erase them, then program in the 6 images. Where are you located?
>
> Does anyone know how to switch volt-nuts from digest version to individual
> emailed version?
>
> Rick
> rpbale at gmail.com
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:56 AM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>
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> > 1. Solartron 7081 (Frank Stellmach)
> > 2. Solartron 7081 (Frank Stellmach)
> > 3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 01:41:45 +0100
> > From: Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de>
> > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > Message-ID: <a8c693ff-73f6-7776-4dbc-c90d7a5eedf4@freenet.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > Hello Rick,
> >
> > I hesitated to give an advice for a good programmer for some reasons,
> > sorry for being late, now.
> >
> > I also bought the latest TL866II plus, from the original manufacturer,
> > which I can highly recommend for more recent non volatile components.
> >
> > There's a long history behind this programmer, as older versions like
> > the CS had been copied by other Chinese ..uum.. garage companies, I
> > assume.. therefore the original manufacturer XGECU terminated all these
> > older versions some time ago, so I hope your CS version is?
> > 'compatible', or 'old stock', or you should make sure it is anything of
> > both, before attempting to make a firmware update.. as far as I
> > remember.. there's been a long discussion on eevblog about this
> > programmer, and stuck FW updates, especially on clones. Best is to avoid
> > these updates, anyhow.
> >
> > The 2nd problem with the recent version which I have is, that it is not
> > able to program very old EPROMs which require high programming voltages
> > like 25V or even 21V, (I didn't test that yet on my old stock), so your
> > EPROMs might fall into this category.. and if the CS version (either
> > compatible or original) is still able to program one of these, I don't
> > know. The operating software will tell, hopefully, otherwise the eevblog
> > thread.
> >
> > So my recommendation is, to carefully check the type of your old EPROMs.
> > I strongly assume that you will be able to safely read their content.
> > But you should order compatible newer EPROMs, OTPs, or FLASH parts,
> > which the programmer can handle for sure, i.e. search inside its parts
> > library, please.
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 12:12:09 +0100
> > From: Frank Stellmach <frank.stellmach@freenet.de>
> > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > Message-ID: <e6fbbb2b-3395-b9c2-d08b-4bb1a40dcc65@freenet.de>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> >
> > I have found again the original distributor/manufacturer site, where I
> > bought (via e..y) the TL866II+ with the whole set of adapters:
> >
> > http://www.autoelectric.cn/en/tl866_main.html
> >
> > So the II+ can only handle +18Vpp, and the CS up to +21Vpp, so
> > programming the old +25Vpp types (2708, 2716 and similar) are not
> > supported.
> >
> > The whole discussion on eevblog can be found here:
> >
> >
> >
>
> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-progr
> ammer-review/
> <https://www.eevblog.com/forum/blog/eevblog-411-minipro-tl866-universal-programmer-review/>
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 10:55:18 -0400
> > From: Rick Bale <rpbale@gmail.com>
> > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> > CAD2Mu-NT_10nt7gw2KQitdgXUrBed6Zxt+XC3H1MWaF1KHzD3Q@mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Frank, I'm glad you did reply. I checked my spec sheet and the ROMs do
> > require 25v VPP and the programmer caps at 18v. I've requested to cancel
> > the shipment but likely to late. I will go back on the hunt for the 25v
> > VPP.
> >
> > Thanks Rick
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > Cc:
> > > Bcc:
> > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:47:07 -0400
> > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] volt-nuts Digest, Vol 124, Issue 5
> > > David, I went to double check if I physically have 2564 or 2764 and I
> > > discovered all the ROMs were in the wrong spots but not backwards like
> > the
> > > ram chips earlier. Wow. I corrected my TMS2564JS ROMs according to
> what
> > > looked like original stickers. I rebooted and had for the first time a
> > > continuous beep. The LEDs all stayed on with a dead screen. I shut it
> > > off. On second boot the beep was gone but the front panel was the same.
> > > Overall no improvement. The physical chip numbers match the
> schematic's
> > > part number.
> > >
> > > I ordered the MiniPro TL866CS USB in the Plus version to burn the ROMs.
> > It
> > > will arrive on 4/1. Is it worth it to erase/reprogram the same ROM or
> > > should I just replace/program them.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > -------------------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 1
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:22:27 -0000
> > > > From: "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk>
> > > > To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'"
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <008201d60421$9e4df7b0$dae9e710$@perdrix.co.uk>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >
> > > > You'll find the ROM images here:
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071
> > > > %20and%207081
> > > > <
> > >
> >
>
> https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%
> 20and%207081
> <https://groups.io/g/Solartron_Schlumberger_Equipment/files/Solartron%207071%20and%207081>
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Depending on exactly which CPU board you have you need either TMS2564
> > > > (early
> > > > boards) or TMS2764 (late boards) EPROMS
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 2
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 10:24:24 +0000
> > > > From: Andre <Andre@Lanoe.net>
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <1585304664509.18014@Lanoe.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
> > of
> > > > them?
> > > > One big problem is that these are in short supply.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I also have UV EPROM erasers.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > J.
> > > > L.
> > > > Trantham
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you located?
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
> > most
> > > > any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > >From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
> years
> > > > since
> > > > I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
> EPROM's
> > > are.
> > > >
> > > > Happy to help if I can.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
> > > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
> > > > wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
> > +5v
> > > > and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
> > just
> > > > stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
> up
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
> > can
> > > > find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
> > start? I
> > > > need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
> > can
> > > > run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
> a
> > > > virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
> > > compare
> > > > it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
> xdevs,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
> > > eprom
> > > > world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
> > and
> > > > everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
> > chips,
> > > > is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
> > > > reader/writer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've order 6 ICs straight away.
> > > > > Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
> > > > >
> > > > > These look to be direct replacements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Send volt-nuts mailing list submissions to
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> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Today's Topics:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> > > > >> 2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
> > > > >> 3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 1
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:05:38 -0400
> > > > >> From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <44537A00-3FB7-4BF3-A425-4B7546C836DE@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 2
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
> > > > >> From: Bruce Griffiths <bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
> > > > >> connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bruce
> > > > >> > On 15 March 2020 at 11:05 Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
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> > > > >> > and follow the instructions there.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 3
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:17:38 +0000
> > > > >> From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID:
> > > > >> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> MWHPR22MB01426F76421B8001E6791B0ADAFB0@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.c
> > > > om
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
> > > > >> archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
> > > burn
> > > > >> new ROMS as you need.
> > > > >> There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
> eevblog
> > > > >> forum which are certainly worth reading.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shaun Merrigan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> On Behalf Of
> > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >> _______________________________________________
> > > > >> volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@lists.febo.com To
> unsubscribe,
> > go
> > > > to
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> > > > >>
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> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
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> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > Message: 3
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 07:23:50 -0500
> > > > From: "J. L. Trantham" <jltran@att.net>
> > > > To: "'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'"
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <014f01d60432$9333f4e0$b99bdea0$@att.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > > >
> > > > It can accommodate only about 6-8 EPROMs at a time and it takes about
> > an
> > > > hour to erase them. Not really designed for 'high volume'.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Andre
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
> > of
> > > > them?
> > > > One big problem is that these are in short supply.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I also have UV EPROM erasers.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > J.
> > > > L.
> > > > Trantham
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you located?
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
> > most
> > > > any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > >From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
> years
> > > > since
> > > > I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
> EPROM's
> > > are.
> > > >
> > > > Happy to help if I can.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
> > > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
> > > > wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
> > +5v
> > > > and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
> > just
> > > > stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
> up
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
> > can
> > > > find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
> > start? I
> > > > need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
> > can
> > > > run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
> a
> > > > virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
> > > compare
> > > > it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
> xdevs,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
> > > eprom
> > > > world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
> > and
> > > > everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
> > chips,
> > > > is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
> > > > reader/writer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've order 6 ICs straight away.
> > > > > Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
> > > > >
> > > > > These look to be direct replacements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Send volt-nuts mailing list submissions to
> > > > >> volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> > > > >>
> > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts_lists.febo.com
> > > > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > > > >> volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> > > > >> volt-nuts-owner@lists.febo.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more
> specific
> > > > >> than "Re: Contents of volt-nuts digest..."
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Today's Topics:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 1. Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
> > > > >> 2. Re: Solartron 7081 (Bruce Griffiths)
> > > > >> 3. Re: Solartron 7081 (Shaun Merrigan)
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 1
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:05:38 -0400
> > > > >> From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <44537A00-3FB7-4BF3-A425-4B7546C836DE@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 2
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
> > > > >> From: Bruce Griffiths <bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
> > > > >> connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bruce
> > > > >> > On 15 March 2020 at 11:05 Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
> > > > >> > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> > To unsubscribe, go to
> > > > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts_lists.febo.com
> > > > >> > and follow the instructions there.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 3
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:17:38 +0000
> > > > >> From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID:
> > > > >> <
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
> MWHPR22MB01426F76421B8001E6791B0ADAFB0@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.c
> > > > om
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
> > > > >> archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
> > > burn
> > > > >> new ROMS as you need.
> > > > >> There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
> eevblog
> > > > >> forum which are certainly worth reading.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shaun Merrigan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> On Behalf Of
> > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
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> > > > Message: 4
> > > > Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 12:36:05 +0000
> > > > From: Andre <Andre@Lanoe.net>
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > Message-ID: <1585312565531.39936@Lanoe.net>
> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >
> > > > Better than nothing. I am thinking about using them to sterilize
> > > > glassware, 96 well plates etc.
> > > > Also useful for making control vials as sterility can be guaranteed
> > > unlike
> > > > other methods.
> > > >
> > > > Larger units with high capacity can indeed be used, the other
> > possibility
> > > > is mounting the tube
> > > > on a rotary platform with a small battery pack over the items to be
> > > > treated.
> > > > Also this can be combined with direct feedback of UV intensity and
> > > > reflection so as not to overdrive
> > > > the tube and ensure verification that the items are sterile.
> > > >
> > > > -Andre
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 12:23
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > It can accommodate only about 6-8 EPROMs at a time and it takes about
> > an
> > > > hour to erase them. Not really designed for 'high volume'.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Andre
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 5:24 AM
> > > > To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Maybe contact your local health authority to see if they can make use
> > of
> > > > them?
> > > > One big problem is that these are in short supply.
> > > > ________________________________________
> > > > From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> on behalf of J.
> L.
> > > > Trantham <jltran@att.net>
> > > > Sent: 27 March 2020 00:25
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I also have UV EPROM erasers.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > J.
> > > > L.
> > > > Trantham
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 6:50 PM
> > > > To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > Rick,
> > > >
> > > > Where are you located?
> > > >
> > > > I have a couple 7081's and the ability to read, archive, and program
> > most
> > > > any EPROM you need, assuming I have the EPROM.
> > > >
> > > > >From your email, I think you need the TMS2564. It's been a few
> years
> > > > since
> > > > I have opened a 7081 to see how many and what specifically the
> EPROM's
> > > are.
> > > >
> > > > Happy to help if I can.
> > > >
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:42 PM
> > > > To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > >
> > > > I installed all the 7081's static ram chips and of course no joy. It
> > > > wouldn't be a worth while repair if it was hard! I double checked the
> > +5v
> > > > and +12v power rails again and that's still looking good. All LEDs
> > just
> > > > stay on with no display like it's hanging up very early in the boot
> up
> > > > sequence.
> > > >
> > > > Seems like the next step is to replace the eproms chips. I believe I
> > can
> > > > find these online, but I will have to program them. Where do I
> > start? I
> > > > need to invest in a reader/writer. We live in a Windows 10 world. I
> > can
> > > > run it in DOS if I had to or even in a earlier version of windows in
> a
> > > > virtual session. I'd really like to read the old chips as well and
> > > compare
> > > > it to what I'm seeing with saved images that are available from
> xdevs,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have a recommendation for an economical way to enter the
> > > eprom
> > > > world? I've seen reader/writers that are over $1000 and ones for $39
> > and
> > > > everything in between. Besides confirming it can read the TMS2564
> > chips,
> > > > is there specific criteria or features I should be looking for in the
> > > > reader/writer?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all, Rick
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 6:45 AM Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I've order 6 ICs straight away.
> > > > > Hitachi HM6117LP-4 6117 2K x 8 CMOS Static RAM
> > > > >
> > > > > These look to be direct replacements.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rick
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 12:00 PM <volt-nuts-request@lists.febo.com
> >
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> > > > >> 1. Solartron 7081 (Rick Bale)
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> > > > >> Message: 1
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 18:05:38 -0400
> > > > >> From: Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <44537A00-3FB7-4BF3-A425-4B7546C836DE@bellsouth.net>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ------------------------------
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Message: 2
> > > > >> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2020 11:24:21 +1300 (NZDT)
> > > > >> From: Bruce Griffiths <bruce.griffiths@xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >> Message-ID: <1609124701.2783993.1584224661504@webmail.xtra.co.nz>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If plugging the memory chips in backwards means their power supply
> > > > >> connections were reversed, those memory chips are likely toast.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Bruce
> > > > >> > On 15 March 2020 at 11:05 Rick Bale <rpbale@bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> > lot
> > > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Rick
> > > > >> >
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> > > > >> Message: 3
> > > > >> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2020 23:17:38 +0000
> > > > >> From: Shaun Merrigan <shaun_merrigan@outlook.com>
> > > > >> To: Discussion of precise voltage measurement
> > > > >> <volt-nuts@lists.febo.com>
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
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>
> MWHPR22MB01426F76421B8001E6791B0ADAFB0@MWHPR22MB0142.namprd22.prod.outlook.c
> > > > om
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ROM images for this meter are readily available on XDevs or in the
> > > > >> archives of the Solartron (group on groups.io), so you can easily
> > > burn
> > > > >> new ROMS as you need.
> > > > >> There are some excellent threads on the 7081 and 7071 on the
> eevblog
> > > > >> forum which are certainly worth reading.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Shaun Merrigan
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: volt-nuts <volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com> On Behalf Of
> > Rick
> > > > Bale
> > > > >> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2020 16:06
> > > > >> To: volt-nuts@lists.febo.com
> > > > >> Subject: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Hey all, this list has been too quiet. I just took delivery of a
> > > > >> Solartron 7081. It?s starts up with all leds on with no screen,
> then
> > > > hangs
> > > > >> there. First inspection revealed that two memory chips were in
> > > > backwards.
> > > > >> But correction didn?t fix anything. 5v rail is good on every IC on
> > the
> > > > >> upper logic board.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> This one will be tough for me as it looks like I need to spend a
> lot
> > > of
> > > > >> time working through the logic. Not my strong skill.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Rick
> > > > >>
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David C. Partridge
Sun, Mar 29, 2020 8:45 AM
If you have the pocket depth then I would suggest a Galep-5 (made by
Conitec) EPROM programmer.
I have its baby brother (Galep-4) but that needs a parallel port.
It's a USB device and will handle the older stuff like 2564s quite happily
and also the new serial EEPROMs
David
If you have the pocket depth then I would suggest a Galep-5 (made by
Conitec) EPROM programmer.
I have its baby brother (Galep-4) but that needs a parallel port.
It's a USB device and will handle the older stuff like 2564s quite happily
and also the new serial EEPROMs
David
JL
J. L. Trantham
Sun, Mar 29, 2020 2:29 PM
Rick,
The older programmers, generally, require a Parallel Port. Parallel Ports
seem to have vanished though I have a Win7 machine with one. Haven't tried
to use any of the older software with it though.
I have several older machines with WinXP and these almost all came with a
Parallel Port. And, you could add additional Parallel Ports with PCI cards.
I have three programmers connected to one of my computers.
My favorite computer for this is the Dell Latitude D610 which I think was
the last Dell Laptop with a Parallel Port. Also has USB and Serial. These
seem to be relatively cheap on theBay. Depending on the 'total cost', might
be worthwhile to get an older computer with WinXP and an older programmer
rather than the usual several hundred dollars for a newer USB programmer.
I just looked at my 7081's and (re)discovered that they both have their
'Calibration Seals' in place when calibrated by Ametek (formerly Solartron)
several years ago. I would like to avoid opening them if possible. I'll
chase down the EPROM files referenced earlier in the thread to be able to
compare your chips with. If your chips are bad (can't be read or
programmed), I'll use those files to program your new chips.
I went looking for my stash of EPROM's but, so far, I can't find it. I
don't remember if I have those chips or not. I did find some TMS2516's so
maybe I do have the chips if I can find the 'mother lode'. Hopefully, you
can get the chips.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of David
C. Partridge
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
If you have the pocket depth then I would suggest a Galep-5 (made by
Conitec) EPROM programmer.
I have its baby brother (Galep-4) but that needs a parallel port.
It's a USB device and will handle the older stuff like 2564s quite happily
and also the new serial EEPROMs
David
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Rick,
The older programmers, generally, require a Parallel Port. Parallel Ports
seem to have vanished though I have a Win7 machine with one. Haven't tried
to use any of the older software with it though.
I have several older machines with WinXP and these almost all came with a
Parallel Port. And, you could add additional Parallel Ports with PCI cards.
I have three programmers connected to one of my computers.
My favorite computer for this is the Dell Latitude D610 which I think was
the last Dell Laptop with a Parallel Port. Also has USB and Serial. These
seem to be relatively cheap on theBay. Depending on the 'total cost', might
be worthwhile to get an older computer with WinXP and an older programmer
rather than the usual several hundred dollars for a newer USB programmer.
I just looked at my 7081's and (re)discovered that they both have their
'Calibration Seals' in place when calibrated by Ametek (formerly Solartron)
several years ago. I would like to avoid opening them if possible. I'll
chase down the EPROM files referenced earlier in the thread to be able to
compare your chips with. If your chips are bad (can't be read or
programmed), I'll use those files to program your new chips.
I went looking for my stash of EPROM's but, so far, I can't find it. I
don't remember if I have those chips or not. I did find some TMS2516's so
maybe I do have the chips if I can find the 'mother lode'. Hopefully, you
can get the chips.
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of David
C. Partridge
Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 3:45 AM
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Solartron 7081
If you have the pocket depth then I would suggest a Galep-5 (made by
Conitec) EPROM programmer.
I have its baby brother (Galep-4) but that needs a parallel port.
It's a USB device and will handle the older stuff like 2564s quite happily
and also the new serial EEPROMs
David
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Poul-Henning Kamp
Mon, Mar 30, 2020 9:00 AM
If you have the pocket depth then I would suggest a Galep-5 (made by
Conitec) EPROM programmer.
I sort of agree, because this is probably the best programmer I
have ever worked with, but unfortunately the company behind it is
a bunch of arrogant assholes.
This is prbably not relevant for anybody but me but the Linux version
of their software can be made to run under FreeBSD too.
--
Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
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In message <005a01d605a6$638b6c80$2aa24580$@perdrix.co.uk>, "David C. Partridge" writes:
>If you have the pocket depth then I would suggest a Galep-5 (made by
>Conitec) EPROM programmer.
I sort of agree, because this is probably the best programmer I
have ever worked with, but unfortunately the company behind it is
a bunch of arrogant assholes.
This is prbably not relevant for anybody but me but the Linux version
of their software can be made to run under FreeBSD too.
--
Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
