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Z3801A gps week rollover

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Mark Sims
Tue, Sep 6, 2016 3:30 PM

Happy until the next power glitch...  the setting does not seem to persist between boots.  There may also be other conditions that causes it to forget your date.

And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then power on.  Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer enter the date.


I had one that screwed up.  I power cycled and set the date.  It's happy now.

Happy until the next power glitch... the setting does not seem to persist between boots. There may also be other conditions that causes it to forget your date. And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then power on. Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer enter the date. --------------- > I had one that screwed up. I power cycled and set the date. It's happy now.
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paul swed
Thu, Sep 8, 2016 3:16 PM

Mark,

From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time at

all?
Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency
do you care?
Thanks
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Happy until the next power glitch...  the setting does not seem to persist
between boots.  There may also be other conditions that causes it to
forget your date.

And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then
power on.  Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer enter
the date.


I had one that screwed up.  I power cycled and set the date.  It's happy

now.


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Mark, >From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time at all? Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency do you care? Thanks Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > Happy until the next power glitch... the setting does not seem to persist > between boots. There may also be other conditions that causes it to > forget your date. > > And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then > power on. Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer enter > the date. > > > --------------- > > > I had one that screwed up. I power cycled and set the date. It's happy > now. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Tom Van Baak
Thu, Sep 8, 2016 5:05 PM

Paul,

IIRC, we've never heard reports of GPSDO pulse or frequency outputs being affected by rollovers. In GPS there are internal rollovers every 1, 256, and 1024 weeks but the 1PPS and 10 MHz outputs are not dependent on any of these events. The same is true for leap seconds; they may be mishandled by some GPS receivers, but they have no effect on 1PPS or 10 MHz outputs.

/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul swed" paulswedb@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

Mark,
From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time at
all?
Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency
do you care?
Thanks
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Happy until the next power glitch...  the setting does not seem to persist
between boots.  There may also be other conditions that causes it to
forget your date.

And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then
power on.  Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer enter
the date.


I had one that screwed up.  I power cycled and set the date.  It's happy

now.


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Paul, IIRC, we've never heard reports of GPSDO pulse or frequency outputs being affected by rollovers. In GPS there are internal rollovers every 1, 256, and 1024 weeks but the 1PPS and 10 MHz outputs are not dependent on any of these events. The same is true for leap seconds; they may be mishandled by some GPS receivers, but they have no effect on 1PPS or 10 MHz outputs. /tvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul swed" <paulswedb@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover > Mark, > From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time at > all? > Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency > do you care? > Thanks > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Happy until the next power glitch... the setting does not seem to persist >> between boots. There may also be other conditions that causes it to >> forget your date. >> >> And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then >> power on. Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer enter >> the date. >> >> >> --------------- >> >> > I had one that screwed up. I power cycled and set the date. It's happy >> now. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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paul swed
Thu, Sep 8, 2016 5:20 PM

Tom,
Right on the pps and frequency. I should have been far more clear date and
time.
I fired up my 3801 and it locked up just fine. Need to check its message to
see whats its putting out.
I will say that I added 2 AA batteries that seem to be lasting for several
years easily and they keep the memory in the GPS engine going and maybe
that keeps the date and time correct so that once you have corrected the
date and time maybe it sticks.
Regards
Paul.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Tom Van Baak tvb@leapsecond.com wrote:

Paul,

IIRC, we've never heard reports of GPSDO pulse or frequency outputs being
affected by rollovers. In GPS there are internal rollovers every 1, 256,
and 1024 weeks but the 1PPS and 10 MHz outputs are not dependent on any of
these events. The same is true for leap seconds; they may be mishandled by
some GPS receivers, but they have no effect on 1PPS or 10 MHz outputs.

/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "paul swed" paulswedb@gmail.com
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <
time-nuts@febo.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover

Mark,
From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time

at

all?
Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency
do you care?
Thanks
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Happy until the next power glitch...  the setting does not seem to

persist

between boots.  There may also be other conditions that causes it to
forget your date.

And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then
power on.  Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer

enter

the date.


I had one that screwed up.  I power cycled and set the date.  It's

happy

now.


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Tom, Right on the pps and frequency. I should have been far more clear date and time. I fired up my 3801 and it locked up just fine. Need to check its message to see whats its putting out. I will say that I added 2 AA batteries that seem to be lasting for several years easily and they keep the memory in the GPS engine going and maybe that keeps the date and time correct so that once you have corrected the date and time maybe it sticks. Regards Paul. On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: > Paul, > > IIRC, we've never heard reports of GPSDO pulse or frequency outputs being > affected by rollovers. In GPS there are internal rollovers every 1, 256, > and 1024 weeks but the 1PPS and 10 MHz outputs are not dependent on any of > these events. The same is true for leap seconds; they may be mishandled by > some GPS receivers, but they have no effect on 1PPS or 10 MHz outputs. > > /tvb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "paul swed" <paulswedb@gmail.com> > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2016 8:16 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A gps week rollover > > > > Mark, > > From some earlier threads on rollovers. Do you even need to set the time > at > > all? > > Granted not great if the 3801 is a time source, but if its just frequency > > do you care? > > Thanks > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Happy until the next power glitch... the setting does not seem to > persist > >> between boots. There may also be other conditions that causes it to > >> forget your date. > >> > >> And when setting the date, you should disconnect the antenna first, then > >> power on. Once the unit starts tracking satellites you can no longer > enter > >> the date. > >> > >> > >> --------------- > >> > >> > I had one that screwed up. I power cycled and set the date. It's > happy > >> now. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >