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Prema 6048 zero offset problems

DC
David C. Partridge
Thu, Jan 18, 2018 11:57 AM

Starting with a warmed up Prema 6048, if I power it off and then on, select
20V DC range, 4 second integration and connect to the 10V output of a Fluke
732A, I get a reading of:

+10.000047

If I reverse the polarity of the cables and allow the reading to settle down
for a minute, I get a reading of:

-10.000006

If I short the inputs of the meter, I get a reading of:

+0.000105

which is different from the  +0.000020 which I would have expected from the
readings of the 732A output.

Proceeding on the assumption that the meter has stored a zero offset of
-105uV

I then press the ZERO button to null out the offset and then reconnect the
732A in normal polarity I get an incorrect reading of:

+10.000153

This is not what I would expect to see - I would expect to see a reading of
+10.000047 - 0.000105 = +09.999942  This calculation

I then reverse the inputs and get a reading of:

-10.000113

which is close to the expected reading of -10.000006 - 0.000105 = -10.000111

I have mailed Prema about this problem, and will let you know what they have
to say.

Cheers
David Partridge

Starting with a warmed up Prema 6048, if I power it off and then on, select 20V DC range, 4 second integration and connect to the 10V output of a Fluke 732A, I get a reading of: +10.000047 If I reverse the polarity of the cables and allow the reading to settle down for a minute, I get a reading of: -10.000006 If I short the inputs of the meter, I get a reading of: +0.000105 which is different from the +0.000020 which I would have expected from the readings of the 732A output. Proceeding on the assumption that the meter has stored a zero offset of -105uV I then press the ZERO button to null out the offset and then reconnect the 732A in normal polarity I get an incorrect reading of: +10.000153 This is not what I would expect to see - I would expect to see a reading of +10.000047 - 0.000105 = +09.999942 This calculation I then reverse the inputs and get a reading of: -10.000113 which is close to the expected reading of -10.000006 - 0.000105 = -10.000111 I have mailed Prema about this problem, and will let you know what they have to say. Cheers David Partridge
BG
Bruce Griffiths
Thu, Jan 18, 2018 12:54 PM

Result of nonlinearity and dc offset combined?

Bruce

 On 19 January 2018 at 00:57 "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote:

 Starting with a warmed up Prema 6048, if I power it off and then on, select
 20V DC range, 4 second integration and connect to the 10V output of a Fluke
 732A, I get a reading of:

 +10.000047

 If I reverse the polarity of the cables and allow the reading to settle down
 for a minute, I get a reading of:

 -10.000006

 If I short the inputs of the meter, I get a reading of:

 +0.000105

 which is different from the +0.000020 which I would have expected from the
 readings of the 732A output.

 Proceeding on the assumption that the meter has stored a zero offset of
 -105uV

 I then press the ZERO button to null out the offset and then reconnect the
 732A in normal polarity I get an incorrect reading of:

 +10.000153

 This is not what I would expect to see - I would expect to see a reading of
 +10.000047 - 0.000105 = +09.999942 This calculation

 I then reverse the inputs and get a reading of:

 -10.000113

 which is close to the expected reading of -10.000006 - 0.000105 = -10.000111

 I have mailed Prema about this problem, and will let you know what they have
 to say.

 Cheers
 David Partridge

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Result of nonlinearity and dc offset combined? Bruce > > On 19 January 2018 at 00:57 "David C. Partridge" <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > > Starting with a warmed up Prema 6048, if I power it off and then on, select > 20V DC range, 4 second integration and connect to the 10V output of a Fluke > 732A, I get a reading of: > > +10.000047 > > If I reverse the polarity of the cables and allow the reading to settle down > for a minute, I get a reading of: > > -10.000006 > > If I short the inputs of the meter, I get a reading of: > > +0.000105 > > which is different from the +0.000020 which I would have expected from the > readings of the 732A output. > > Proceeding on the assumption that the meter has stored a zero offset of > -105uV > > I then press the ZERO button to null out the offset and then reconnect the > 732A in normal polarity I get an incorrect reading of: > > +10.000153 > > This is not what I would expect to see - I would expect to see a reading of > +10.000047 - 0.000105 = +09.999942 This calculation > > I then reverse the inputs and get a reading of: > > -10.000113 > > which is close to the expected reading of -10.000006 - 0.000105 = -10.000111 > > I have mailed Prema about this problem, and will let you know what they have > to say. > > Cheers > David Partridge > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
DC
David C. Partridge
Fri, Jan 19, 2018 6:00 PM

If there are any other members of the group with a 6048, I'd be grateful if you would attempt to recreate the scenario I describe to determine if this is just my meter or impacts other 6048 users.

Thanks
Dave

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 18 January 2018 11:57
To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement'
Subject: [volt-nuts] Prema 6048 zero offset problems

Starting with a warmed up Prema 6048, if I power it off and then on, select 20V DC range, 4 second integration and connect to the 10V output of a Fluke 732A, I get a reading of:

+10.000047

If I reverse the polarity of the cables and allow the reading to settle down for a minute, I get a reading of:

-10.000006

If I short the inputs of the meter, I get a reading of:

+0.000105

which is different from the  +0.000020 which I would have expected from the readings of the 732A output.

Proceeding on the assumption that the meter has stored a zero offset of -105uV

I then press the ZERO button to null out the offset and then reconnect the 732A in normal polarity I get an incorrect reading of:

+10.000153

This is not what I would expect to see - I would expect to see a reading of
+10.000047 - 0.000105 = +09.999942  This calculation

I then reverse the inputs and get a reading of:

-10.000113

which is close to the expected reading of -10.000006 - 0.000105 = -10.000111

I have mailed Prema about this problem, and will let you know what they have to say.

Cheers
David Partridge


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If there are any other members of the group with a 6048, I'd be grateful if you would attempt to recreate the scenario I describe to determine if this is just my meter or impacts other 6048 users. Thanks Dave -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of David C. Partridge Sent: 18 January 2018 11:57 To: 'Discussion of precise voltage measurement' Subject: [volt-nuts] Prema 6048 zero offset problems Starting with a warmed up Prema 6048, if I power it off and then on, select 20V DC range, 4 second integration and connect to the 10V output of a Fluke 732A, I get a reading of: +10.000047 If I reverse the polarity of the cables and allow the reading to settle down for a minute, I get a reading of: -10.000006 If I short the inputs of the meter, I get a reading of: +0.000105 which is different from the +0.000020 which I would have expected from the readings of the 732A output. Proceeding on the assumption that the meter has stored a zero offset of -105uV I then press the ZERO button to null out the offset and then reconnect the 732A in normal polarity I get an incorrect reading of: +10.000153 This is not what I would expect to see - I would expect to see a reading of +10.000047 - 0.000105 = +09.999942 This calculation I then reverse the inputs and get a reading of: -10.000113 which is close to the expected reading of -10.000006 - 0.000105 = -10.000111 I have mailed Prema about this problem, and will let you know what they have to say. Cheers David Partridge _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.