Are we expecting any week rollover problems with the receivers we time
nuts like to play with???
Cheers,
Corby
I have a Z3816A that’s showing a yellow “ro” next to the date in LH and is 18 seconds ahead of a Motorola 12 channel (and my iPhone). I haven’t had time to look into it as I’m adjusting to “voluntary” retirement and trying to clear out some excess stuff.
Steve
On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:30 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com wrote:
Are we expecting any week rollover problems with the receivers we time
nuts like to play with???
Cheers,
Corby
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Hi,
I just got a heads up fro TomTom, saying my Go Live 825 bought 2012 « may » have WNRO problems after the April 6 rollover and invited me to update the firmware. I wouldn’t think it would affect the navigation, but it might brick the device. Unfortunately I can’t test it as it went to recycle 3 month ago . This could be an interesting week.
Mike
Le 28 mars 2019 à 20:21, Steve - Home steve-krull@cox.net a écrit :
I have a Z3816A that’s showing a yellow “ro” next to the date in LH and is 18 seconds ahead of a Motorola 12 channel (and my iPhone). I haven’t had time to look into it as I’m adjusting to “voluntary” retirement and trying to clear out some excess stuff.
Steve
On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:30 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com wrote:
Are we expecting any week rollover problems with the receivers we time
nuts like to play with???
Cheers,
Corby
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Potentially everything using the week 10 bits. Check your manufacturer. Trimble is all over this.
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On Apr 4, 2019, at 06:29, Mike Cook michael.cook@sfr.fr wrote:
Hi,
I just got a heads up fro TomTom, saying my Go Live 825 bought 2012 « may » have WNRO problems after the April 6 rollover and invited me to update the firmware. I wouldn’t think it would affect the navigation, but it might brick the device. Unfortunately I can’t test it as it went to recycle 3 month ago . This could be an interesting week.
Mike
Le 28 mars 2019 à 20:21, Steve - Home steve-krull@cox.net a écrit :
I have a Z3816A that’s showing a yellow “ro” next to the date in LH and is 18 seconds ahead of a Motorola 12 channel (and my iPhone). I haven’t had time to look into it as I’m adjusting to “voluntary” retirement and trying to clear out some excess stuff.
Steve
On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:30 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com wrote:
Are we expecting any week rollover problems with the receivers we time
nuts like to play with???
Cheers,
Corby
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I received the same invitation. And they states that the WNRO problem is
an "external" problem. I did it and now all the maps are signaled as
invalid!
Fortunately I was able to copy my main map from a backup copy.
Regards,
Ignacio EB4APL
El 04/04/2019 a las 12:29, Mike Cook escribió:
Hi,
I just got a heads up fro TomTom, saying my Go Live 825 bought 2012 « may » have WNRO problems after the April 6 rollover and invited me to update the firmware. I wouldn’t think it would affect the navigation, but it might brick the device. Unfortunately I can’t test it as it went to recycle 3 month ago . This could be an interesting week.
Mike
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Just curious - WNRO is not an issue for me even if my GPS receivers are
affected - but I note that the time of rollover is being quoted as
23:59:59 UTC 6th April.
Wouldn't the time actually be 18 seconds earlier ? - i.e., 23:59:42 -
due to leap seconds ?
BTW - I'm not clear about GPS time vs UTC (which is probably relevant to
the above). Any pointers to a clear explanation ?
Cheers
Steve
Yes Steve, you are correct.
Scroll down a bit and you can find a count down to the roll over. And it states the time when it will roll over. Just what you have said.
Jeff Z.
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On Apr 5, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Steve Olney t0502@internode.on.net wrote:
Just curious - WNRO is not an issue for me even if my GPS receivers are affected - but I note that the time of rollover is being quoted as 23:59:59 UTC 6th April.
Wouldn't the time actually be 18 seconds earlier ? - i.e., 23:59:42 - due to leap seconds ?
BTW - I'm not clear about GPS time vs UTC (which is probably relevant to the above). Any pointers to a clear explanation ?
Cheers
Steve
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I checked my Garmin Emap, 1999 vintage IIRC. That is telling me that it is 20/05/2014.
I found this for Trimble which shows a number of devices affected by this which are commonly used bt timenuts.
https://novotech.com/support/eol-notices/trimble-gps-wnro-april-6-2019-event
Have a nice day
Le 28 mars 2019 à 20:21, Steve - Home steve-krull@cox.net a écrit :
I have a Z3816A that’s showing a yellow “ro” next to the date in LH and is 18 seconds ahead of a Motorola 12 channel (and my iPhone). I haven’t had time to look into it as I’m adjusting to “voluntary” retirement and trying to clear out some excess stuff.
Steve
On Mar 28, 2019, at 1:30 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com wrote:
Are we expecting any week rollover problems with the receivers we time
nuts like to play with???
Cheers,
Corby
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Steve Olney wrote:
Just curious - WNRO is not an issue for me even if my GPS receivers are
affected - but I note that the time of rollover is being quoted as
23:59:59 UTC 6th April.
Wouldn't the time actually be 18 seconds earlier ? - i.e., 23:59:42 -
due to leap seconds ?
BTW - I'm not clear about GPS time vs UTC (which is probably relevant to
the above). Any pointers to a clear explanation ?
The explanation is simple, IMO.
When the GPS system was put into operation in 1980 then the GPS time
matched UTC.
However, a number of leap seconds have been inserted into the UTC time
scale since, and each leap second delayed UTC by 1 s.
Yet 18 leap seconds have been inserted, so UTC is 18 s behind GPS time,
or the other way round, GPS time is 18 s ahead of UTC, so the WNRO
occurs 18 s before UTC midnight.
BTW, the effects of the rollover have already begun. For example, the
reference times of the almanac and clock correction parameters in the
the navigation messages received from the satellites refer to a time a
in the near future, so the week number of those time stamps has already
rolled over.
Martin
The OP doesn’t state where he got the « quote » from, but IMHO it is wrong. As I understand it.
The GPS epoch started at 0h 1st June 1980 and the week number roles at 1024 week intervals at 0h GPS time. When a leap second is added its as if the clock stops for a second so GPS time will be in advance of UTC buy the number of leap seconds added. 18 leap seconds have been added to date, so 0h GPS 07 april 2019 will be crossed at 23:59:42 UTC on April 6 as you indicated.
Le 6 avr. 2019 à 00:40, Steve Olney t0502@internode.on.net a écrit :
Just curious - WNRO is not an issue for me even if my GPS receivers are affected - but I note that the time of rollover is being quoted as 23:59:59 UTC 6th April.
Wouldn't the time actually be 18 seconds earlier ? - i.e., 23:59:42 - due to leap seconds ?
BTW - I'm not clear about GPS time vs UTC (which is probably relevant to the above). Any pointers to a clear explanation ?
Cheers
Steve
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