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Question for Fluke 732A owners

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Charles Steinmetz
Wed, Feb 26, 2014 10:46 PM

Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A
battery packs.  The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and
later units use a 3-pin connector made by Hypertronics.  My question
concerns only the latter (732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors).

The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount
connector body and the plug body.  It is customary to build the panel
mount connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male
contacts.  However, it appears that Fluke may have made at least some
732A battery packs with male contacts in the panel mount connectors.

I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field.  If you
have a 732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector,
could you please look at the connector and let me know if the
contacts are male or female?

Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal
contacts only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector.  The
gold-plated metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can
see is a solid pin) or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a
hole that will accept a pin).

Thank you,

Charles

Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A battery packs. The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and later units use a 3-pin connector made by Hypertronics. My question concerns only the latter (732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors). The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount connector body and the plug body. It is customary to build the panel mount connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male contacts. However, it appears that Fluke may have made at least some 732A battery packs with male contacts in the panel mount connectors. I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field. If you have a 732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector, could you please look at the connector and let me know if the contacts are male or female? Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal contacts only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector. The gold-plated metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can see is a solid pin) or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a hole that will accept a pin). Thank you, Charles
JL
J. L. Trantham
Wed, Feb 26, 2014 11:53 PM

Oooooh!!  THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'.  I get it!  :^))

My 732A has male pins on the battery module and female sockets on the mating
connector/plug.

BTW, the mating connector is not easy to find.  Several phone calls to Fluke
led me to Fluke Item Number 2181497, Description: 100-166, PLUG - MALE, H.
I ordered two but all that arrived was the shell, no contacts.  I tried
calling Fluke but was unable to find anyone that had a clue about the plug
or it's contacts.  Perhaps I'll try again when I get some spare time to
spend  another hour on the phone.

An effort with the Hypertronics website led to P/N D01PB306FSTAH which is
the mating plug for the Fluke 732A, contacts and all.  The plug is composed
of two components:  HYP D01PB306NT, PLUG, 3P BLACK, and HYP YSK006-010ANH,
SOCKET, SOLDER CUP 50 UIN, but it is ordered with the P/N listed.

I found them at Kensington Electronics in Austin, TX, with a minimum $50
order.  I ordered 6 after reviewing the specifics with the sales person who
confirmed that I had the correct part number.  They work perfectly.  I have
some spares if anyone is interested.

If you wanted male contacts for the mating plug for the 732A, as best I can
tell, the P/N would be D01PB306MSTH.  The 'TAH' relates to 50 uin gold over
nickel plating over female sockets and the 'TH' relates to 50 uin gold over
nickel plating over male pins.  A little time with the data sheet for the
Hypertronics connectors should make it all clear.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Steinmetz
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:47 PM
To: VoltNuts
Subject: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners

Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A battery
packs.  The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and later units use a
3-pin connector made by Hypertronics.  My question concerns only the latter
(732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors).

The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount
connector body and the plug body.  It is customary to build the panel mount
connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male contacts.  However,
it appears that Fluke may have made at least some 732A battery packs with
male contacts in the panel mount connectors.

I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field.  If you have a
732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector, could you please
look at the connector and let me know if the contacts are male or female?

Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal contacts
only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector.  The gold-plated
metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can see is a solid pin)
or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a hole that will accept a
pin).

Thank you,

Charles


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Oooooh!! THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'. I get it! :^)) My 732A has male pins on the battery module and female sockets on the mating connector/plug. BTW, the mating connector is not easy to find. Several phone calls to Fluke led me to Fluke Item Number 2181497, Description: 100-166, PLUG - MALE, H. I ordered two but all that arrived was the shell, no contacts. I tried calling Fluke but was unable to find anyone that had a clue about the plug or it's contacts. Perhaps I'll try again when I get some spare time to spend another hour on the phone. An effort with the Hypertronics website led to P/N D01PB306FSTAH which is the mating plug for the Fluke 732A, contacts and all. The plug is composed of two components: HYP D01PB306NT, PLUG, 3P BLACK, and HYP YSK006-010ANH, SOCKET, SOLDER CUP 50 UIN, but it is ordered with the P/N listed. I found them at Kensington Electronics in Austin, TX, with a minimum $50 order. I ordered 6 after reviewing the specifics with the sales person who confirmed that I had the correct part number. They work perfectly. I have some spares if anyone is interested. If you wanted male contacts for the mating plug for the 732A, as best I can tell, the P/N would be D01PB306MSTH. The 'TAH' relates to 50 uin gold over nickel plating over female sockets and the 'TH' relates to 50 uin gold over nickel plating over male pins. A little time with the data sheet for the Hypertronics connectors should make it all clear. Joe -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Charles Steinmetz Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 4:47 PM To: VoltNuts Subject: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A battery packs. The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and later units use a 3-pin connector made by Hypertronics. My question concerns only the latter (732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors). The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount connector body and the plug body. It is customary to build the panel mount connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male contacts. However, it appears that Fluke may have made at least some 732A battery packs with male contacts in the panel mount connectors. I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field. If you have a 732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector, could you please look at the connector and let me know if the contacts are male or female? Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal contacts only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector. The gold-plated metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can see is a solid pin) or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a hole that will accept a pin). Thank you, Charles _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
MV
Mitch Van Ochten
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:19 AM

Male contacts (3)

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Steinmetz
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47 PM
To: VoltNuts
Subject: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners

Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A battery
packs.  The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and later units use a
3-pin connector made by Hypertronics.  My question concerns only the latter
(732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors).

The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount
connector body and the plug body.  It is customary to build the panel mount
connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male contacts.  However,
it appears that Fluke may have made at least some 732A battery packs with
male contacts in the panel mount connectors.

I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field.  If you have a
732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector, could you please
look at the connector and let me know if the contacts are male or female?

Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal contacts
only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector.  The gold-plated
metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can see is a solid pin)
or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a hole that will accept a
pin).

Thank you,

Charles


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Male contacts (3) -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Charles Steinmetz Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 5:47 PM To: VoltNuts Subject: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A battery packs. The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and later units use a 3-pin connector made by Hypertronics. My question concerns only the latter (732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors). The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount connector body and the plug body. It is customary to build the panel mount connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male contacts. However, it appears that Fluke may have made at least some 732A battery packs with male contacts in the panel mount connectors. I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field. If you have a 732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector, could you please look at the connector and let me know if the contacts are male or female? Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal contacts only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector. The gold-plated metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can see is a solid pin) or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a hole that will accept a pin). Thank you, Charles _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
MS
Mike S
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 12:48 AM

On 2/26/2014 6:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:

Oooooh!!  THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'.  I get it!  :^))

You jest, but it's not always clear. Take the common Cannon "D-sub"
connectors. A connector with male contacts will have have a female
shield, making gender ambiguous. That's why they come in P (pin) or S
(socket) forms, and not male/female.

Or the old Token Ring connectors (or even older GR-874), which were
hermaphroditic.

On 2/26/2014 6:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > Oooooh!! THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'. I get it! :^)) You jest, but it's not always clear. Take the common Cannon "D-sub" connectors. A connector with male contacts will have have a female shield, making gender ambiguous. That's why they come in P (pin) or S (socket) forms, and not male/female. Or the old Token Ring connectors (or even older GR-874), which were hermaphroditic.
TM
T. Micallef
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 2:18 AM

Male pins on six battery packs.

I had the same issue with Fluke and their plugs without contacts. I will
have to contact Kensington about availability. It is not on my priority list
at the moment but I would like to add a remote reading of the charging
voltage. Hopefully I can tell if the batteries are failing prematurely.
I had two packs fail last year. A single battery in one, and two in another.

Todd

Male pins on six battery packs. I had the same issue with Fluke and their plugs without contacts. I will have to contact Kensington about availability. It is not on my priority list at the moment but I would like to add a remote reading of the charging voltage. Hopefully I can tell if the batteries are failing prematurely. I had two packs fail last year. A single battery in one, and two in another. Todd
MV
Mitch Van Ochten
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 2:40 AM

If you put a 34401A in the high-input impedance mode you can fairly
accurately measure the battery voltage from the outside across two of the
pins.

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of T. Micallef
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:18 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners

Male pins on six battery packs.

I had the same issue with Fluke and their plugs without contacts. I will
have to contact Kensington about availability. It is not on my priority list
at the moment but I would like to add a remote reading of the charging
voltage. Hopefully I can tell if the batteries are failing prematurely.
I had two packs fail last year. A single battery in one, and two in another.

Todd


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If you put a 34401A in the high-input impedance mode you can fairly accurately measure the battery voltage from the outside across two of the pins. -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of T. Micallef Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:18 PM To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners Male pins on six battery packs. I had the same issue with Fluke and their plugs without contacts. I will have to contact Kensington about availability. It is not on my priority list at the moment but I would like to add a remote reading of the charging voltage. Hopefully I can tell if the batteries are failing prematurely. I had two packs fail last year. A single battery in one, and two in another. Todd _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
TM
T. Micallef
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 3:36 AM

My concern was the size of the meter leads mixed with my daily
intake of caffeine. I did not want to add another repair job to my list of
to-do's. I have measured them in the past, but the location is a little
difficult to access due to the placement of the 732A's.

I want to make an adapter that converts to banana jacks or similar. I would
then run the cables to the front near the rest of the binding posts.

Todd

My concern was the size of the meter leads mixed with my daily intake of caffeine. I did not want to add another repair job to my list of to-do's. I have measured them in the past, but the location is a little difficult to access due to the placement of the 732A's. I want to make an adapter that converts to banana jacks or similar. I would then run the cables to the front near the rest of the binding posts. Todd
JL
J. L. Trantham
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 4:12 AM

Having done my OB/Gyn and Ped's rotations, I am familiar with the 'gender
ambiguity' issues.  Just having some fun!  :^))

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Mike S
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:48 PM
To: volt-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners

On 2/26/2014 6:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:

Oooooh!!  THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'.  I get it!  :^))

You jest, but it's not always clear. Take the common Cannon "D-sub"
connectors. A connector with male contacts will have have a female
shield, making gender ambiguous. That's why they come in P (pin) or S
(socket) forms, and not male/female.

Or the old Token Ring connectors (or even older GR-874), which were
hermaphroditic.


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Having done my OB/Gyn and Ped's rotations, I am familiar with the 'gender ambiguity' issues. Just having some fun! :^)) Joe -----Original Message----- From: volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:volt-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mike S Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:48 PM To: volt-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners On 2/26/2014 6:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > Oooooh!! THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'. I get it! :^)) You jest, but it's not always clear. Take the common Cannon "D-sub" connectors. A connector with male contacts will have have a female shield, making gender ambiguous. That's why they come in P (pin) or S (socket) forms, and not male/female. Or the old Token Ring connectors (or even older GR-874), which were hermaphroditic. _______________________________________________ volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts and follow the instructions there.
MW
Mark Wendt
Thu, Feb 27, 2014 10:16 AM

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Mike S mikes@flatsurface.com wrote:

On 2/26/2014 6:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote:

Oooooh!!  THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'.  I get it!  :^))

You jest, but it's not always clear. Take the common Cannon "D-sub"
connectors. A connector with male contacts will have have a female shield,
making gender ambiguous. That's why they come in P (pin) or S (socket)
forms, and not male/female.

Or the old Token Ring connectors (or even older GR-874), which were
hermaphroditic.

Or the not exactly intuitive BNC connector.  Or some of the old GR
connectors.

Mark

On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Mike S <mikes@flatsurface.com> wrote: > On 2/26/2014 6:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: > >> Oooooh!! THAT's what they mean by 'male' and 'female'. I get it! :^)) >> > > You jest, but it's not always clear. Take the common Cannon "D-sub" > connectors. A connector with male contacts will have have a female shield, > making gender ambiguous. That's why they come in P (pin) or S (socket) > forms, and not male/female. > > Or the old Token Ring connectors (or even older GR-874), which were > hermaphroditic. > Or the not exactly intuitive BNC connector. Or some of the old GR connectors. Mark
BG
Bill Gold
Fri, Feb 28, 2014 12:45 AM

Charles:

6  battery packs all Male pins.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Steinmetz" csteinmetz@yandex.com
To: "VoltNuts" volt-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:46 PM
Subject: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners

Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A
battery packs.  The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and
later units use a 3-pin connector made by Hypertronics.  My question
concerns only the latter (732A battery packs with the Hypertronics

connectors).

The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount
connector body and the plug body.  It is customary to build the panel
mount connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male
contacts.  However, it appears that Fluke may have made at least some
732A battery packs with male contacts in the panel mount connectors.

I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field.  If you
have a 732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector,
could you please look at the connector and let me know if the
contacts are male or female?

Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal
contacts only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector.  The
gold-plated metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can
see is a solid pin) or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a
hole that will accept a pin).

Thank you,

Charles


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Charles: 6 battery packs all Male pins. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Steinmetz" <csteinmetz@yandex.com> To: "VoltNuts" <volt-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:46 PM Subject: [volt-nuts] Question for Fluke 732A owners > Fluke used two different connector schemes for the DC input on 732A > battery packs. The oldest units have a pair of banana jacks, and > later units use a 3-pin connector made by Hypertronics. My question > concerns only the latter (732A battery packs with the Hypertronics connectors). > > The Hypertronics contacts are interchangeable between the panel mount > connector body and the plug body. It is customary to build the panel > mount connectors with female contacts, and the plugs with male > contacts. However, it appears that Fluke may have made at least some > 732A battery packs with male contacts in the panel mount connectors. > > I'd be interested to know what is out there in the field. If you > have a 732A battery module with the Hypertronics 3-pin connector, > could you please look at the connector and let me know if the > contacts are male or female? > > Just to be painfully clear, I'm referring to the gold-plated metal > contacts only, not to the black plastic parts of the connector. The > gold-plated metal contacts can be male (i.e., the metal part you can > see is a solid pin) or female (i.e., the metal part you can see is a > hole that will accept a pin). > > Thank you, > > Charles > > _______________________________________________ > volt-nuts mailing list -- volt-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/volt-nuts > and follow the instructions there.