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K
KA2WEU@aol.com
Tue, Aug 15, 2017 11:04 AM

Good Morning all ,

yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter
2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm  abbreviation and the noise correlation
part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things  So I
thing we are settled.

Thanks, Ulrich

In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
david.bengtson@gmail.com writes:

Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this?

Regards

Dave

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via  time-nuts
<time-nuts@febo.com (mailto:time-nuts@febo.com) > wrote:

Why  don't you look at the outline to determine what might be  needed  or
missing .

Ulrich

In a message dated  3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
attila@kinali.ch (mailto:attila@kinali.ch)  writes:

Hoi  Ulrich,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500
KA2WEU--- via  time-nuts  <time-nuts@febo.com (mailto:time-nuts@febo.com)

wrote:

I have published the following  book

" Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and  Design, Ulrich  L.

Rohde,

John Wiley & Sons, August 1997,  ISBN  0-471-52019-5."

[...]

As I am more or less now  in  microwave technology and less in  PLL IC's,

I

hate  to see this  standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or  want

to

take  over?

Da ich sowieso für mich  was grösseres über  Zeit/Frequenzmessung
amzusammenstellen bin, und  da PLL's grundsätzlich auch  dazu gehören,
wäre ich interessiert.  Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von  der
praktischen Seite aber  kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich  alleine
die Arbeit mit  ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre  möglich,
dass ich  zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe  von
ein  paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine  stellen
könnte.

Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein  Update rein  müssten?

Gruess aus Saarbrücken

Attila  Kinali

--
It is upon moral  qualities that a  society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity  and technological  sophistication in the world is of no
use without  that  foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil  Stephenson


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Good Morning all , yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm abbreviation and the noise correlation part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things So I thing we are settled. Thanks, Ulrich In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david.bengtson@gmail.com writes: Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this? Regards Dave On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <_time-nuts@febo.com_ (mailto:time-nuts@febo.com) > wrote: Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be needed or missing . Ulrich In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _attila@kinali.ch_ (mailto:attila@kinali.ch) writes: Hoi Ulrich, On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500 KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <_time-nuts@febo.com_ (mailto:time-nuts@febo.com) > wrote: > I have published the following book > > " Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and Design, Ulrich L. Rohde, > John Wiley & Sons, August 1997, ISBN 0-471-52019-5." [...] > As I am more or less now in microwave technology and less in PLL IC's, I > hate to see this standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or want to > take over? Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über Zeit/Frequenzmessung amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch dazu gehören, wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von der praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich alleine die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre möglich, dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe von ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen könnte. Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein müssten? Gruess aus Saarbrücken Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- _time-nuts@febo.com_ (mailto:time-nuts@febo.com) To unsubscribe, go to _https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/https://www.febo.com/cgi-b_ (https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts) and follow the instructions there.
DB
David Bengtson
Fri, Aug 18, 2017 6:58 PM

That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise
correlation.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM KA2WEU@aol.com wrote:

Good Morning all ,

yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter
2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm  abbreviation and the noise correlation
part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things  So I
thing we are settled.

Thanks, Ulrich

In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
david.bengtson@gmail.com writes:

Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this?

Regards

Dave

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <
time-nuts@febo.com> wrote:

Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be  needed or
missing .

Ulrich

In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
attila@kinali.ch writes:

Hoi  Ulrich,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500
KA2WEU--- via time-nuts  time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

I have published the following  book

" Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and  Design, Ulrich L.

Rohde,

John Wiley & Sons, August 1997,  ISBN  0-471-52019-5."

[...]

As I am more or less now in  microwave technology and less in  PLL IC's,

I

hate to see this  standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or  want

to

take  over?

Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über  Zeit/Frequenzmessung
amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch  dazu gehören,
wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von  der
praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich  alleine
die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre  möglich,
dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe  von
ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen
könnte.

Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein  müssten?

Gruess aus Saarbrücken

Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a  society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological  sophistication in the world is of no
use without that  foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil  Stephenson


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That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise correlation. Dave On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM <KA2WEU@aol.com> wrote: > Good Morning all , > > yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter > 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm abbreviation and the noise correlation > part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things So I > thing we are settled. > > Thanks, Ulrich > > In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > david.bengtson@gmail.com writes: > > Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this? > > Regards > > Dave > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts < > time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > >> >> Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be needed or >> missing . >> >> Ulrich >> >> >> >> >> In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> attila@kinali.ch writes: >> >> Hoi Ulrich, >> >> On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500 >> KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >> >> > I have published the following book >> > >> > " Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and Design, Ulrich L. >> Rohde, >> > John Wiley & Sons, August 1997, ISBN 0-471-52019-5." >> [...] >> > As I am more or less now in microwave technology and less in PLL IC's, >> I >> > hate to see this standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or want >> to >> > take over? >> >> Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über Zeit/Frequenzmessung >> amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch dazu gehören, >> wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von der >> praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich alleine >> die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre möglich, >> dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe von >> ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen >> könnte. >> >> Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein müssten? >> >> Gruess aus Saarbrücken >> >> Attila Kinali >> >> -- >> It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All >> the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no >> use without that foundation. >> -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > >
DU
Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde
Fri, Aug 18, 2017 8:17 PM

Yes, and there is a lot of useful material in place including CMOS  and related new topics and update on numerical controlled oscillators . Thanks, Ulrich

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, David Bengtson david.bengtson@gmail.com wrote:

That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise correlation.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM KA2WEU@aol.com wrote:
Good Morning all ,

yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm  abbreviation and the noise correlation part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things  So I thing we are settled.

Thanks, Ulrich

In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david.bengtson@gmail.com writes:
Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this?

Regards

Dave

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be  needed or
missing .

Ulrich

In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
attila@kinali.ch writes:

Hoi  Ulrich,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500
KA2WEU--- via time-nuts  time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

I have published the following  book

" Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and  Design, Ulrich L.

Rohde,

John Wiley & Sons, August 1997,  ISBN  0-471-52019-5."

[...]

As I am more or less now in  microwave technology and less in  PLL IC's,

I

hate to see this  standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or  want

to

take  over?

Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über  Zeit/Frequenzmessung
amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch  dazu gehören,
wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von  der
praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich  alleine
die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre  möglich,
dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe  von
ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen
könnte.

Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein  müssten?

Gruess aus Saarbrücken

Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a  society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological  sophistication in the world is of no
use without that  foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil  Stephenson


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Yes, and there is a lot of useful material in place including CMOS and related new topics and update on numerical controlled oscillators . Thanks, Ulrich Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, David Bengtson <david.bengtson@gmail.com> wrote: > > That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise correlation. > > Dave > >> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM <KA2WEU@aol.com> wrote: >> Good Morning all , >> >> yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm abbreviation and the noise correlation part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things So I thing we are settled. >> >> Thanks, Ulrich >> >> In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david.bengtson@gmail.com writes: >> Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this? >> >> Regards >> >> Dave >> >>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be needed or >>> missing . >>> >>> Ulrich >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> attila@kinali.ch writes: >>> >>> Hoi Ulrich, >>> >>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500 >>> KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >>> >>> > I have published the following book >>> > >>> > " Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and Design, Ulrich L. >>> Rohde, >>> > John Wiley & Sons, August 1997, ISBN 0-471-52019-5." >>> [...] >>> > As I am more or less now in microwave technology and less in PLL IC's, >>> I >>> > hate to see this standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or want >>> to >>> > take over? >>> >>> Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über Zeit/Frequenzmessung >>> amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch dazu gehören, >>> wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von der >>> praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich alleine >>> die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre möglich, >>> dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe von >>> ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen >>> könnte. >>> >>> Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein müssten? >>> >>> Gruess aus Saarbrücken >>> >>> Attila Kinali >>> >>> -- >>> It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All >>> the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no >>> use without that foundation. >>> -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>
JS
Jim Sanford
Fri, Aug 18, 2017 10:25 PM

When will it be available??

Jim

wb4gcs@amsat.org

On 8/18/2017 4:17 PM, Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts wrote:

Yes, and there is a lot of useful material in place including CMOS  and related new topics and update on numerical controlled oscillators . Thanks, Ulrich

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, David Bengtson david.bengtson@gmail.com wrote:

That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise correlation.

Dave

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM KA2WEU@aol.com wrote:
Good Morning all ,

yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm  abbreviation and the noise correlation part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things  So I thing we are settled.

Thanks, Ulrich

In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david.bengtson@gmail.com writes:
Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this?

Regards

Dave

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be  needed or
missing .

Ulrich

In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
attila@kinali.ch writes:

Hoi  Ulrich,

On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500
KA2WEU--- via time-nuts  time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

I have published the following  book

" Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and  Design, Ulrich L.

Rohde,

John Wiley & Sons, August 1997,  ISBN  0-471-52019-5."

[...]

As I am more or less now in  microwave technology and less in  PLL IC's,

I

hate to see this  standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or  want

to

take  over?

Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über  Zeit/Frequenzmessung
amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch  dazu gehören,
wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von  der
praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich  alleine
die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre  möglich,
dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe  von
ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen
könnte.

Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein  müssten?

Gruess aus Saarbrücken

Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a  society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological  sophistication in the world is of no
use without that  foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil  Stephenson


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When will it be available?? Jim wb4gcs@amsat.org On 8/18/2017 4:17 PM, Dr. Ulrich L. Rohde via time-nuts wrote: > Yes, and there is a lot of useful material in place including CMOS and related new topics and update on numerical controlled oscillators . Thanks, Ulrich > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 18, 2017, at 2:58 PM, David Bengtson <david.bengtson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> That's good news. It would be good to have a single reference for noise correlation. >> >> Dave >> >>> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:04 AM <KA2WEU@aol.com> wrote: >>> Good Morning all , >>> >>> yes , it became non trivial but Enrico agreed to take over the old chapter 2. He thinks I do not use IEEE norm abbreviation and the noise correlation part did not exist 20 years ago.And many new and important things So I thing we are settled. >>> >>> Thanks, Ulrich >>> >>> In a message dated 8/14/2017 9:10:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, david.bengtson@gmail.com writes: >>> Ulrich - Did anyone ever agree to help update this? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Dave >>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 3:13 PM, KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Why don't you look at the outline to determine what might be needed or >>>> missing . >>>> >>>> Ulrich >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 3/11/2016 11:09:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>> attila@kinali.ch writes: >>>> >>>> Hoi Ulrich, >>>> >>>> On Mon, 7 Mar 2016 19:52:58 -0500 >>>> KA2WEU--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have published the following book >>>>> >>>>> " Microwave and Wireless Synthesizers: Theory and Design, Ulrich L. >>>> Rohde, >>>>> John Wiley & Sons, August 1997, ISBN 0-471-52019-5." >>>> [...] >>>>> As I am more or less now in microwave technology and less in PLL IC's, >>>> I >>>>> hate to see this standard textbook disappear.... Who can help or want >>>> to >>>>> take over? >>>> Da ich sowieso für mich was grösseres über Zeit/Frequenzmessung >>>> amzusammenstellen bin, und da PLL's grundsätzlich auch dazu gehören, >>>> wäre ich interessiert. Mein Problem dabei ist, dass ich von der >>>> praktischen Seite aber kaum eine Erfahrung habe und für mich alleine >>>> die Arbeit mit ziemlicher Sicherheit zuviel wäre. Aber es wäre möglich, >>>> dass ich zum Beispiel mit Magnus zusammen und vielleicht der Hilfe von >>>> ein paar anderen time-nuts und/oder Enrico etwas auf die Beine stellen >>>> könnte. >>>> >>>> Was wären denn die Dinge, welche für dich, in ein Update rein müssten? >>>> >>>> Gruess aus Saarbrücken >>>> >>>> Attila Kinali >>>> >>>> -- >>>> It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All >>>> the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no >>>> use without that foundation. >>>> -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus