Thanks for all the replies.
Tom asked me to take care of the backlog -- that is let anything great
through but don't flood our mailboxes.
I just dropped a dozen or so. (and fatfingered one that went through,
apologies)
Here is a summary of the ones I dropped
There were 10 mentions of subharmonic.
There were 3 mentions of fundamental
There was one suggestion of undertone
and another of fractional harmonic or fractional frequency
On Wikipedia, subharmonic redirects to "Undertone series" which begins "In
music...".
Meriam-Webster has an entry for subharmonic.
: a component of a periodic wave having a frequency that is an integral
submultiple of the fundamental frequency
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Hi,
A reflection. You might not have the fundamental accessable, but it may
be relevant indirectly. Two frequencies may be say 2/5 or 3/5 of some
other frequency, thus you do 2 or 3 cycles while the higher does 5
cycles. Thus they can be locked and have a fixed relationship and that's
where fractional frequency becomes relevant without having a fundamental
or subtone.
Cheers,
Magnus
On 2025-04-28 12:36, Hal Murray via time-nuts wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.
Tom asked me to take care of the backlog -- that is let anything great
through but don't flood our mailboxes.
I just dropped a dozen or so. (and fatfingered one that went through,
apologies)
Here is a summary of the ones I dropped
There were 10 mentions of subharmonic.
There were 3 mentions of fundamental
There was one suggestion of undertone
and another of fractional harmonic or fractional frequency
On Wikipedia, subharmonic redirects to "Undertone series" which begins "In
music...".
Meriam-Webster has an entry for subharmonic.
: a component of a periodic wave having a frequency that is an integral
submultiple of the fundamental frequency
An example of this is deep space transponders for ranging.
The transmitted frequency is some ratio of integers of the received frequency (880/749 for X-band) - But there may not be anything in the device at the common value (called f0 in most of the papers talking about this) - For example, a lot of transponders generate the output signal as 220 * refosc and the LO for the receiver as 187*refosc (where refosc is something around 40 MHz).
On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 13:21:26 +0200, Magnus Danielson via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:
Hi,
A reflection. You might not have the fundamental accessable, but it may
be relevant indirectly. Two frequencies may be say 2/5 or 3/5 of some
other frequency, thus you do 2 or 3 cycles while the higher does 5
cycles. Thus they can be locked and have a fixed relationship and that's
where fractional frequency becomes relevant without having a fundamental
or subtone.
Cheers,
Magnus
On 2025-04-28 12:36, Hal Murray via time-nuts wrote:
Thanks for all the replies.
Tom asked me to take care of the backlog -- that is let anything great
through but don't flood our mailboxes.
I just dropped a dozen or so. (and fatfingered one that went through,
apologies)
Here is a summary of the ones I dropped
There were 10 mentions of subharmonic.
There were 3 mentions of fundamental
There was one suggestion of undertone
and another of fractional harmonic or fractional frequency
On Wikipedia, subharmonic redirects to "Undertone series" which begins "In
music...".
Meriam-Webster has an entry for subharmonic.
: a component of a periodic wave having a frequency that is an integral
submultiple of the fundamental frequency
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