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Attila Kinali
Wed, Apr 26, 2017 1:05 PM

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate,
or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know.

I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place
to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse
of this poor student too much.

		Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

Hi I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate, or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know. I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse of this poor student too much. Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Graham / KE9H
Wed, Apr 26, 2017 3:46 PM

If you have never seen them, you must make a pilgrimage to see the Harrison
Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory.

If you have not read the book, you must read the book "Longitude" before
seeing the clocks.

--- Graham

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate,
or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know.

I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place
to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse
of this poor student too much.

                     Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson


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If you have never seen them, you must make a pilgrimage to see the Harrison Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory. If you have not read the book, you must read the book "Longitude" before seeing the clocks. --- Graham On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: > Hi > > I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week > between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around > the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. > > If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate, > or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know. > > I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place > to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse > of this poor student too much. > > Attila Kinali > > -- > It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All > the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no > use without that foundation. > -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Clint Jay
Wed, Apr 26, 2017 6:08 PM

Greenwich as recommended by others is a must, the science museum is also a
good way to spend a day.

Cheap and London don't necessarily go hand in hand unpess you go d hostel
style accommodation or perhaps even youth hostels?

I can recommend the New Linden hotel near Notting hill gate from recent
personal experience. There are plenty of little family owned hotels of a
similar standard but they're still around £100 a night.

On 26 Apr 2017 4:01 pm, "Attila Kinali" attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate,
or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know.

I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place
to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse
of this poor student too much.

                     Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson


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Greenwich as recommended by others is a must, the science museum is also a good way to spend a day. Cheap and London don't necessarily go hand in hand unpess you go d hostel style accommodation or perhaps even youth hostels? I can recommend the New Linden hotel near Notting hill gate from recent personal experience. There are plenty of little family owned hotels of a similar standard but they're still around £100 a night. On 26 Apr 2017 4:01 pm, "Attila Kinali" <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: > Hi > > I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week > between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around > the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. > > If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate, > or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know. > > I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place > to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse > of this poor student too much. > > Attila Kinali > > -- > It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All > the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no > use without that foundation. > -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Philip Gladstone
Wed, Apr 26, 2017 9:10 PM

Yes -- Greenwich is a must. Also read up on why the GPS 0.00000 E line
is not on the mark that is etched in the ground. Then walk over to the 0
point and admire your GPS receiver.

The Harrison clocks are a wonder to behold.....

Philip

On 26/04/2017 11:46, Graham / KE9H wrote:

If you have never seen them, you must make a pilgrimage to see the Harrison
Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory.

If you have not read the book, you must read the book "Longitude" before
seeing the clocks.

--- Graham

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate,
or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know.

I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place
to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse
of this poor student too much.

                      Attila Kinali
Yes -- Greenwich is a must. Also read up on why the GPS 0.00000 E line is not on the mark that is etched in the ground. Then walk over to the 0 point and admire your GPS receiver. The Harrison clocks are a wonder to behold..... Philip On 26/04/2017 11:46, Graham / KE9H wrote: > If you have never seen them, you must make a pilgrimage to see the Harrison > Clocks at the Greenwich Observatory. > > If you have not read the book, you must read the book "Longitude" before > seeing the clocks. > > --- Graham > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week >> between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around >> the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. >> >> If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate, >> or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know. >> >> I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place >> to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse >> of this poor student too much. >> >> Attila Kinali >> >>
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shouldbe q931
Wed, Apr 26, 2017 10:08 PM

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate,
or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know.

I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place
to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse
of this poor student too much.

                     Attila Kinali

As somebody that lives in London...

Airbnb is probably the lowest cost option to stay for a week, there
are people advertising rooms for under £20 per night

Places that are worthwhile to see historic timepieces

http://www.rmg.co.uk/ has H1,H2, H3 & H4 (I think only H1 is on
display at the moment)  and of course you can stand on the Greenwich
meridian, be there before 13:00 and you can see the ball go down the
pole, which might be the first time "signal".they also have a 5071a
that was used by NPL (the UK equiv of NIST).

http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk has another Harrison clock.

Cheers

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: > Hi > > I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week > between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around > the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. > > If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate, > or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know. > > I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place > to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse > of this poor student too much. > > Attila Kinali As somebody that lives in London... Airbnb is probably the lowest cost option to stay for a week, there are people advertising rooms for under £20 per night Places that are worthwhile to see historic timepieces http://www.rmg.co.uk/ has H1,H2, H3 & H4 (I think only H1 is on display at the moment) and of course you can stand on the Greenwich meridian, be there before 13:00 and you can see the ball go down the pole, which might be the first time "signal".they also have a 5071a that was used by NPL (the UK equiv of NIST). http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk has another Harrison clock. Cheers
MM
Mike Millen
Thu, Apr 27, 2017 5:59 AM

On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If you can travel to Cambridge ( a short train trip from London ), the
the Corpus Clock is well worth seeing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Clock

https://youtu.be/pHO1JTNPPOU

Mike

>> >> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 8:05 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week >>> between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around >>> the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. If you can travel to Cambridge ( a short train trip from London ), the the Corpus Clock is well worth seeing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Clock https://youtu.be/pHO1JTNPPOU Mike
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Tony Finch
Thu, Apr 27, 2017 9:00 AM

Mike Millen mike.millen.uk@gmail.com wrote:

If you can travel to Cambridge ( a short train trip from London ), the the
Corpus Clock is well worth seeing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Clock

https://youtu.be/pHO1JTNPPOU

My notes on the Corpus Clock:

http://fanf.livejournal.com/94043.html
http://fanf.livejournal.com/98545.html

If you are in Cambridge, listen out for the chimes from Great St Mary's
church next to the market square - the GSM chimes were copied for the
palace of Westminster's clock tower.

Also listen out for Trinity's clock which strikes the hour twice, and
which has a very informative web site: http://trin-hosts.trin.cam.ac.uk/clock/
Trinity's clock is based on the design of the palace of Westminster's
clock.

Frank King has information about some notable sundials:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fhk1/Sundials/WriteUps/CBsundialWalk.pdf

The Royal Greenwich Observatory was housed next to Cambridge University's
Institute of Astronomy for several years before it was finally shut down.
I don't know of any notable timekeeping activities, though.

Tony.

f.anthony.n.finch  dot@dotat.at  http://dotat.at/  -  I xn--zr8h punycode
Faeroes: Northwesterly 5 or 6 becoming variable 3 or 4, then southerly 5 or 6
later in west. Moderate or rough becoming slight or moderate. Showers. Good,
occasionally moderate.

Mike Millen <mike.millen.uk@gmail.com> wrote: > > If you can travel to Cambridge ( a short train trip from London ), the the > Corpus Clock is well worth seeing: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_Clock > > https://youtu.be/pHO1JTNPPOU My notes on the Corpus Clock: http://fanf.livejournal.com/94043.html http://fanf.livejournal.com/98545.html If you are in Cambridge, listen out for the chimes from Great St Mary's church next to the market square - the GSM chimes were copied for the palace of Westminster's clock tower. Also listen out for Trinity's clock which strikes the hour twice, and which has a very informative web site: http://trin-hosts.trin.cam.ac.uk/clock/ Trinity's clock is based on the design of the palace of Westminster's clock. Frank King has information about some notable sundials: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~fhk1/Sundials/WriteUps/CBsundialWalk.pdf The Royal Greenwich Observatory was housed next to Cambridge University's Institute of Astronomy for several years before it was finally shut down. I don't know of any notable timekeeping activities, though. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode Faeroes: Northwesterly 5 or 6 becoming variable 3 or 4, then southerly 5 or 6 later in west. Moderate or rough becoming slight or moderate. Showers. Good, occasionally moderate.
TF
Tony Finch
Thu, Apr 27, 2017 9:10 AM

Clint Jay cjaysharp@gmail.com wrote:

Greenwich as recommended by others is a must, the science museum is also a
good way to spend a day.

Look for the clock and watch gallery in the Science Museum, lots of great
devices from the collection of the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers.
http://www.clockmakers.org/the-clockmakers-museum-library/the-clockmakers-museum-library/
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/Plan_your_visit/exhibitions/clockmakers-museum?keywords=clockmakers

And the British Horological Institute has a museum too (very limited
opening hours, tho) http://bhi.co.uk/museum/the-bhi-museum-trust/

Tony.

f.anthony.n.finch  dot@dotat.at  http://dotat.at/  -  I xn--zr8h punycode
Fisher: Cyclonic becoming north 4 or 5, occasionally 6 at first. Moderate.
Rain then showers. Moderate or good.

Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> wrote: > Greenwich as recommended by others is a must, the science museum is also a > good way to spend a day. Look for the clock and watch gallery in the Science Museum, lots of great devices from the collection of the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers. http://www.clockmakers.org/the-clockmakers-museum-library/the-clockmakers-museum-library/ http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/Plan_your_visit/exhibitions/clockmakers-museum?keywords=clockmakers And the British Horological Institute has a museum too (very limited opening hours, tho) http://bhi.co.uk/museum/the-bhi-museum-trust/ Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode Fisher: Cyclonic becoming north 4 or 5, occasionally 6 at first. Moderate. Rain then showers. Moderate or good.
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Eric Scace
Fri, Apr 28, 2017 1:49 AM

Do not neglect a visit to the Clockworks http://theclockworks.org/ museum. Examples of the most accurate pendulum clocks ever put into production e.g., (LeRoy, Riefler, Shortt-Synchronome and Fedchenko) are among the collection there. Free — and the staff are very friendly and extremely knowledgable.

— Eric

On 2017 Apr 27, at 05:10 , Tony Finch dot@dotat.at wrote:

Clint Jay cjaysharp@gmail.com wrote:

Greenwich as recommended by others is a must, the science museum is also a
good way to spend a day.

Look for the clock and watch gallery in the Science Museum, lots of great
devices from the collection of the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers.
http://www.clockmakers.org/the-clockmakers-museum-library/the-clockmakers-museum-library/
http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/Plan_your_visit/exhibitions/clockmakers-museum?keywords=clockmakers

And the British Horological Institute has a museum too (very limited
opening hours, tho) http://bhi.co.uk/museum/the-bhi-museum-trust/

Tony.

f.anthony.n.finch  dot@dotat.at  http://dotat.at/  -  I xn--zr8h punycode
Fisher: Cyclonic becoming north 4 or 5, occasionally 6 at first. Moderate.
Rain then showers. Moderate or good.


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Do not neglect a visit to the Clockworks <http://theclockworks.org/> museum. Examples of the most accurate pendulum clocks ever put into production e.g., (LeRoy, Riefler, Shortt-Synchronome and Fedchenko) are among the collection there. Free — and the staff are very friendly and extremely knowledgable. — Eric > On 2017 Apr 27, at 05:10 , Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> wrote: > > Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Greenwich as recommended by others is a must, the science museum is also a >> good way to spend a day. > > Look for the clock and watch gallery in the Science Museum, lots of great > devices from the collection of the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers. > http://www.clockmakers.org/the-clockmakers-museum-library/the-clockmakers-museum-library/ > http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/visitmuseum/Plan_your_visit/exhibitions/clockmakers-museum?keywords=clockmakers > > And the British Horological Institute has a museum too (very limited > opening hours, tho) http://bhi.co.uk/museum/the-bhi-museum-trust/ > > Tony. > -- > f.anthony.n.finch <dot@dotat.at> http://dotat.at/ - I xn--zr8h punycode > Fisher: Cyclonic becoming north 4 or 5, occasionally 6 at first. Moderate. > Rain then showers. Moderate or good. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Attila Kinali
Sun, May 7, 2017 10:13 PM

Hey there!

Sorry for my late response. The last weeks have been extremely busy
and my upcomming trip to the UK didn't exactly help.

Thanks to everyone I have now a decent list of things to do.

If anyone lives in the general London area and would like
to have a beer/tea/hot chocolate together, feel free to send
me a message.

		Attila Kinali

On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:05:52 +0200
Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi

I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week
between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around
the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton.

If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate,
or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know.

I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place
to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse
of this poor student too much.

		Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson


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--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

Hey there! Sorry for my late response. The last weeks have been extremely busy and my upcomming trip to the UK didn't exactly help. Thanks to everyone I have now a decent list of things to do. If anyone lives in the general London area and would like to have a beer/tea/hot chocolate together, feel free to send me a message. Attila Kinali On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:05:52 +0200 Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: > Hi > > I'll be in the UK for three weeks and will have a "free" week > between 13th and 20th of May. I will most probably be around > the London area and maybe spend a day or two in Southampton. > > If someone wants to meet for a beer or cup of hot chocolate, > or knows of time-nutty things to do, please let me know. > > I would also appreciate if someone knows an affordable place > to stay at in London, so that it doesn't strain the purse > of this poor student too much. > > Attila Kinali > > -- > It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All > the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no > use without that foundation. > -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson