Hey all, Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. Any insights? Thanks! John KC1QLN

Ok I bought one what is it? Bill On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:38 PM John Miller via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hey all, > Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" > devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 > > They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't been > able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of boxes > suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. > > Any insights? > > Thanks! > John > KC1QLN > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >

Hi Just as a guess ….. POE ethernet powered GPS receiver. Maybe speaking an Ericsson specific “babble”. Size is about right for a typical GPS module plus a redundant ethernet interface. The RJ45’s *appear* to have the normal ethernet signaling LED’s. Typical use? Who knows …. quite likely a “time of day” reference to some piece of gear. At the price for the cheaper ones, simple answer is to buy a couple and take a hammer to the first one. Then you will have a pretty good idea of what’s inside and how to power it up. Bob > On Aug 9, 2022, at 5:22 PM, John Miller via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Hey all, > Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 > > They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. > > Any insights? > > Thanks! > John > KC1QLN > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Hi Of course you bought one …. who could resist :) The question is: Who bought a case full of them? If it turns out these are really cool gizmos, once this list documents that, you will see the prices double or quadruple overnight. Of course if they are a piece of nonsense, you now have a nice big pile of scrap metal ….. Bob > On Aug 9, 2022, at 5:51 PM, Bill Notfaded via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Ok I bought one what is it? > > Bill > > On Tue, Aug 9, 2022, 6:38 PM John Miller via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >> Hey all, >> Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" >> devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 >> >> They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't been >> able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of boxes >> suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. >> >> Any insights? >> >> Thanks! >> John >> KC1QLN >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Hi, I found these for the Ericsson GPS 02 01 device (casing looks quite identical to GPS 03 01...) https://osmocom.org/projects/ericsson-rbs-6xxx/wiki/GPS_02 https://www.coursehero.com/file/35010200/Ericsson-GPS-02-01-Specspdf/ Don't know if they're of any use. -Kim On 2022-08-10 03:22, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: > Hey all, > Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" > devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 > > They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't > been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures > of boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. > > Any insights? > > Thanks! > John > KC1QLN > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Kim, This is great, thanks for sharing! The GPS 02's performance looks rather impressive, with 65 channels. I ordered a couple of the GPS 03s as well. It looks like these are mostly plain NMEA strings, but with some additional $PERC strings thrown in that are unique to the Ericsson protocol, which is lightly documented in this paper: http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:573991/FULLTEXT01.pdf Seems like a decent receiver. Looking forward to documenting it more. Reminds me a lot of the Nokia FYGM, which I have documented here: https://ljck.org/doku.php?id=nokia_fygm John > On Aug 10, 2022, at 2:45:53 AM, mail--- via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I found these for the Ericsson GPS 02 01 device (casing looks quite identical to GPS 03 01...) > > https://osmocom.org/projects/ericsson-rbs-6xxx/wiki/GPS_02 > > https://www.coursehero.com/file/35010200/Ericsson-GPS-02-01-Specspdf/ > > Don't know if they're of any use. > > -Kim > > > On 2022-08-10 03:22, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: >> Hey all, >> Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 >> They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. >> Any insights? >> Thanks! >> John >> KC1QLN >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Hi, I received a couple of the GPS 03 modules today and thought the list would be interested in some pictures of the board inside. https://i.ibb.co/TKHdvDF/GPS03-1.jpg https://i.ibb.co/0j6yg5D/GPS03-2.jpg https://i.ibb.co/HzN94HL/GPS03-3.jpg https://i.ibb.co/hCsjH6f/GPS03-4.jpg https://i.ibb.co/kQbbptZ/GPS03-5.jpg The unit is very easy to disassemble, just drill out the rivet on top and the upper half of the case will slide off. I initially attacked the clip on the bottom of the case, but that is unnecessary. The PCB is secured to the bottom half of the case with a single screw inside. Too easy! Some of the major parts/ICs on the board: GPS: Trimble RES SMT 360 (97975-01) Microcontroller: STM32F105RCT6 Step Down Converter: TI TPS5430 LDO Regulator: TI TL1963A Quad Differential Line Driver: TI AM26LV31E Best regards Dan Watson On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:34 PM John Miller via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Kim, > This is great, thanks for sharing! The GPS 02's performance looks rather > impressive, with 65 channels. I ordered a couple of the GPS 03s as well. It > looks like these are mostly plain NMEA strings, but with some additional > $PERC strings thrown in that are unique to the Ericsson protocol, which is > lightly documented in this paper: > > http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:573991/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > Seems like a decent receiver. Looking forward to documenting it more. > Reminds me a lot of the Nokia FYGM, which I have documented here: > https://ljck.org/doku.php?id=nokia_fygm > > John > > > On Aug 10, 2022, at 2:45:53 AM, mail--- via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I found these for the Ericsson GPS 02 01 device (casing looks quite > identical to GPS 03 01...) > > > > https://osmocom.org/projects/ericsson-rbs-6xxx/wiki/GPS_02 > > > > https://www.coursehero.com/file/35010200/Ericsson-GPS-02-01-Specspdf/ > > > > Don't know if they're of any use. > > > > -Kim > > > > > > On 2022-08-10 03:22, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: > >> Hey all, > >> Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" > devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 > >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 > >> They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't > been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of > boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. > >> Any insights? > >> Thanks! > >> John > >> KC1QLN > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >

Excellent work, and what a quick turn! The RES SMT 360 is a great module, especially given the prices of these things. Have you tried to interface with it yet? Curious if the pinout on the GPS02 applies to the 03. I would assume it would. Regards, John KC1QLN > On Aug 12, 2022, at 10:06:27 PM, Daniel Watson via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I received a couple of the GPS 03 modules today and thought the list would > be interested in some pictures of the board inside. > > https://i.ibb.co/TKHdvDF/GPS03-1.jpg > https://i.ibb.co/0j6yg5D/GPS03-2.jpg > https://i.ibb.co/HzN94HL/GPS03-3.jpg > https://i.ibb.co/hCsjH6f/GPS03-4.jpg > https://i.ibb.co/kQbbptZ/GPS03-5.jpg > > The unit is very easy to disassemble, just drill out the rivet on top and > the upper half of the case will slide off. I initially attacked the clip on > the bottom of the case, but that is unnecessary. The PCB is secured to the > bottom half of the case with a single screw inside. Too easy! > > Some of the major parts/ICs on the board: > > GPS: Trimble RES SMT 360 (97975-01) > Microcontroller: STM32F105RCT6 > Step Down Converter: TI TPS5430 > LDO Regulator: TI TL1963A > Quad Differential Line Driver: TI AM26LV31E > > Best regards > > Dan Watson > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:34 PM John Miller via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >> Kim, >> This is great, thanks for sharing! The GPS 02's performance looks rather >> impressive, with 65 channels. I ordered a couple of the GPS 03s as well. It >> looks like these are mostly plain NMEA strings, but with some additional >> $PERC strings thrown in that are unique to the Ericsson protocol, which is >> lightly documented in this paper: >> >> http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:573991/FULLTEXT01.pdf >> >> Seems like a decent receiver. Looking forward to documenting it more. >> Reminds me a lot of the Nokia FYGM, which I have documented here: >> https://ljck.org/doku.php?id=nokia_fygm >> >> John >> >>> On Aug 10, 2022, at 2:45:53 AM, mail--- via time-nuts < >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I found these for the Ericsson GPS 02 01 device (casing looks quite >> identical to GPS 03 01...) >>> >>> https://osmocom.org/projects/ericsson-rbs-6xxx/wiki/GPS_02 >>> >>> https://www.coursehero.com/file/35010200/Ericsson-GPS-02-01-Specspdf/ >>> >>> Don't know if they're of any use. >>> >>> -Kim >>> >>> >>> On 2022-08-10 03:22, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: >>>> Hey all, >>>> Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 01" >> devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 >>>> They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't >> been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of >> boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. >>>> Any insights? >>>> Thanks! >>>> John >>>> KC1QLN >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com

Hi, The pinout is the same. Here is a screen shot of the message output shortly after power on: https://i.ibb.co/ZVrtm5y/serial-output.png PPS I verified on an oscilloscope. LED activity is the same as the GPS 02. At power on it does nothing for several seconds, and then blinks during acquisition, and then goes solid green with a lock. It achieves lock very quickly! At first power on it had lock within one minute using a puck antenna sitting by the window in my office. What is a time nuts approved way to convert the differential PPS to single ended into 50 ohms? Any references would be appreciated. Thanks Dan Watson On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 11:29 PM John Miller via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Excellent work, and what a quick turn! The RES SMT 360 is a great module, > especially given the prices of these things. Have you tried to interface > with it yet? Curious if the pinout on the GPS02 applies to the 03. I would > assume it would. > > Regards, > John > KC1QLN > > > On Aug 12, 2022, at 10:06:27 PM, Daniel Watson via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I received a couple of the GPS 03 modules today and thought the list > would > > be interested in some pictures of the board inside. > > > > https://i.ibb.co/TKHdvDF/GPS03-1.jpg > > https://i.ibb.co/0j6yg5D/GPS03-2.jpg > > https://i.ibb.co/HzN94HL/GPS03-3.jpg > > https://i.ibb.co/hCsjH6f/GPS03-4.jpg > > https://i.ibb.co/kQbbptZ/GPS03-5.jpg > > > > The unit is very easy to disassemble, just drill out the rivet on top and > > the upper half of the case will slide off. I initially attacked the clip > on > > the bottom of the case, but that is unnecessary. The PCB is secured to > the > > bottom half of the case with a single screw inside. Too easy! > > > > Some of the major parts/ICs on the board: > > > > GPS: Trimble RES SMT 360 (97975-01) > > Microcontroller: STM32F105RCT6 > > Step Down Converter: TI TPS5430 > > LDO Regulator: TI TL1963A > > Quad Differential Line Driver: TI AM26LV31E > > > > Best regards > > > > Dan Watson > > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:34 PM John Miller via time-nuts < > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > >> Kim, > >> This is great, thanks for sharing! The GPS 02's performance looks rather > >> impressive, with 65 channels. I ordered a couple of the GPS 03s as > well. It > >> looks like these are mostly plain NMEA strings, but with some additional > >> $PERC strings thrown in that are unique to the Ericsson protocol, which > is > >> lightly documented in this paper: > >> > >> http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:573991/FULLTEXT01.pdf > >> > >> Seems like a decent receiver. Looking forward to documenting it more. > >> Reminds me a lot of the Nokia FYGM, which I have documented here: > >> https://ljck.org/doku.php?id=nokia_fygm > >> > >> John > >> > >>> On Aug 10, 2022, at 2:45:53 AM, mail--- via time-nuts < > >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I found these for the Ericsson GPS 02 01 device (casing looks quite > >> identical to GPS 03 01...) > >>> > >>> https://osmocom.org/projects/ericsson-rbs-6xxx/wiki/GPS_02 > >>> > >>> https://www.coursehero.com/file/35010200/Ericsson-GPS-02-01-Specspdf/ > >>> > >>> Don't know if they're of any use. > >>> > >>> -Kim > >>> > >>> > >>> On 2022-08-10 03:22, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: > >>>> Hey all, > >>>> Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 > 01" > >> devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. > >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 > >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 > >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 > >>>> They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't > >> been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures of > >> boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. > >>>> Any insights? > >>>> Thanks! > >>>> John > >>>> KC1QLN > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >

Easy on the differential output take 1 side and drive single transistor emitter follower. They are nice looking units. Though the price is magically up. Have fun Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 12:17 PM Daniel Watson via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi, > > The pinout is the same. Here is a screen shot of the message output shortly > after power on: > > https://i.ibb.co/ZVrtm5y/serial-output.png > > PPS I verified on an oscilloscope. LED activity is the same as the GPS 02. > At power on it does nothing for several seconds, and then blinks during > acquisition, and then goes solid green with a lock. It achieves lock very > quickly! At first power on it had lock within one minute using a puck > antenna sitting by the window in my office. > > What is a time nuts approved way to convert the differential PPS to single > ended into 50 ohms? Any references would be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Dan Watson > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 11:29 PM John Miller via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > Excellent work, and what a quick turn! The RES SMT 360 is a great module, > > especially given the prices of these things. Have you tried to interface > > with it yet? Curious if the pinout on the GPS02 applies to the 03. I > would > > assume it would. > > > > Regards, > > John > > KC1QLN > > > > > On Aug 12, 2022, at 10:06:27 PM, Daniel Watson via time-nuts < > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I received a couple of the GPS 03 modules today and thought the list > > would > > > be interested in some pictures of the board inside. > > > > > > https://i.ibb.co/TKHdvDF/GPS03-1.jpg > > > https://i.ibb.co/0j6yg5D/GPS03-2.jpg > > > https://i.ibb.co/HzN94HL/GPS03-3.jpg > > > https://i.ibb.co/hCsjH6f/GPS03-4.jpg > > > https://i.ibb.co/kQbbptZ/GPS03-5.jpg > > > > > > The unit is very easy to disassemble, just drill out the rivet on top > and > > > the upper half of the case will slide off. I initially attacked the > clip > > on > > > the bottom of the case, but that is unnecessary. The PCB is secured to > > the > > > bottom half of the case with a single screw inside. Too easy! > > > > > > Some of the major parts/ICs on the board: > > > > > > GPS: Trimble RES SMT 360 (97975-01) > > > Microcontroller: STM32F105RCT6 > > > Step Down Converter: TI TPS5430 > > > LDO Regulator: TI TL1963A > > > Quad Differential Line Driver: TI AM26LV31E > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > Dan Watson > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 8:34 PM John Miller via time-nuts < > > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Kim, > > >> This is great, thanks for sharing! The GPS 02's performance looks > rather > > >> impressive, with 65 channels. I ordered a couple of the GPS 03s as > > well. It > > >> looks like these are mostly plain NMEA strings, but with some > additional > > >> $PERC strings thrown in that are unique to the Ericsson protocol, > which > > is > > >> lightly documented in this paper: > > >> > > >> http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:573991/FULLTEXT01.pdf > > >> > > >> Seems like a decent receiver. Looking forward to documenting it more. > > >> Reminds me a lot of the Nokia FYGM, which I have documented here: > > >> https://ljck.org/doku.php?id=nokia_fygm > > >> > > >> John > > >> > > >>> On Aug 10, 2022, at 2:45:53 AM, mail--- via time-nuts < > > >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Hi, > > >>> > > >>> I found these for the Ericsson GPS 02 01 device (casing looks quite > > >> identical to GPS 03 01...) > > >>> > > >>> https://osmocom.org/projects/ericsson-rbs-6xxx/wiki/GPS_02 > > >>> > > >>> > https://www.coursehero.com/file/35010200/Ericsson-GPS-02-01-Specspdf/ > > >>> > > >>> Don't know if they're of any use. > > >>> > > >>> -Kim > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On 2022-08-10 03:22, John Miller via time-nuts wrote: > > >>>> Hey all, > > >>>> Does anyone know anything about these "Ericsson NCD 901 56/1 GPS 03 > > 01" > > >> devices? They are all over ebay and are fairly cheap. > > >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185337146688 > > >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294113323964 > > >>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194342806640 > > >>>> They have one SMA connector and two RJ45, probably RS485? I haven't > > >> been able to unearth any documentation on them at all. A few pictures > of > > >> boxes suggests they were made in 2016-2017 in Poland. > > >>>> Any insights? > > >>>> Thanks! > > >>>> John > > >>>> KC1QLN > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > >>> _______________________________________________ > > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > >>> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > >> To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >