On 1/15/17 6:27 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > > Again, this is why the interest in “how the heck did they accomplish it? > With the claim of microsecond level performance, they must have run > into all these issues. or is it "with these two specific WiFi adapters in this specific environment, we were able to achieve microsecond level performance, and who knows if it's generalizable"

Hi The push behind this is whole house audio. These guys want to be able to set up WiFi speakers / mic's all through a home and get proper audio imaging in each room. They likely also want to use it to figure out which mic you are talking to using time of arrival. They very much want to do this in real environments (300 WiFi nets in the building). Since they want to roll it out that way, it’s got to be cheap and fairly robust. They need their gizmo to work with the infrastructure you already have. Bob > On Jan 15, 2017, at 9:35 AM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On 1/15/17 6:27 AM, Bob Camp wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> Again, this is why the interest in “how the heck did they accomplish it? >> With the claim of microsecond level performance, they must have run >> into all these issues. > > or is it "with these two specific WiFi adapters in this specific environment, we were able to achieve microsecond level performance, and who knows if it's generalizable" > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

Björn

Hi Bob, Below are some efforts to reduce buffering in both routers and non router network stacks including wifi. They are focusing on reducing latency - maybe some is relevant for you. https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/make-wifi-fast/wiki/ https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/sqm https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/bloat/wiki/Windows_Tips/ -- Björn

Sonos and I guess their competitors do this by dropping WiFi compatibility. They exist on their own network in the same ISM band so I wonder how well they coexist with WiFi. Online reports say poorly under crowded band conditions. On Sun, 15 Jan 2017 09:50:05 -0500, you wrote: >Hi > >The push behind this is whole house audio. These guys want to be able to set up WiFi >speakers / mic's all through a home and get proper audio imaging in each room. They likely >also want to use it to figure out which mic you are talking to using time of arrival. They very >much want to do this in real environments (300 WiFi nets in the building). Since they want to >roll it out that way, it’s got to be cheap and fairly robust. They need their gizmo to work with >the infrastructure you already have. > >Bob