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Attila Kinali

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 7:04 PM

Hi,

I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

		Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

Hi, I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and easily done). What would people here recommend? Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

BA

Bob Albert

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 7:06 PM

Someone has been selling one of these at a reasonably low price on ebay but I don't know anyone who has used it.
Bob
On Saturday, November 18, 2017, 11:05:09 AM PST, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi,

I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

Attila Kinali

It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

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Someone has been selling one of these at a reasonably low price on ebay but I don't know anyone who has used it. Bob On Saturday, November 18, 2017, 11:05:09 AM PST, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: Hi, I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and easily done). What would people here recommend? Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

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Gerhard Hoffmann

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 7:18 PM

I have bought a Prologix GPIB/USB controller. There is a LAN version also.

The German distributor is stantronic.de.

You can get mine for a limited time to see if it fits. I was able to solve

my own problem via LAN w/o adapter.

regards, Gerhard

Am 18.11.2017 um 20:04 schrieb Attila Kinali:

Hi,

I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

		Attila Kinali

I have bought a Prologix GPIB/USB controller. There is a LAN version also. The German distributor is stantronic.de. You can get mine for a limited time to see if it fits. I was able to solve my own problem via LAN w/o adapter. regards, Gerhard Am 18.11.2017 um 20:04 schrieb Attila Kinali: > Hi, > > I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. > It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks > more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have > problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). > I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and > easily done). What would people here recommend? > > > Attila Kinali

TL

Tim Lister

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 8:29 PM

On Nov 18, 2017 11:05, "Attila Kinali" attila@kinali.ch wrote:

Hi,

I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

As mentioned by others the Prologix works fine in e.g. Timelab but is not
supported by NI VISA code or things like the linux-gpib code.

Tim

                    Attila Kinali

--

On Nov 18, 2017 11:05, "Attila Kinali" <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: Hi, I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and easily done). What would people here recommend? As mentioned by others the Prologix works fine in e.g. Timelab but is not supported by NI VISA code or things like the linux-gpib code. Tim Attila Kinali --

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jimlux

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 9:45 PM

On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:

Hi,

I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters.

Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the
outside world

On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > Hi, > > I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. > It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks > more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have > problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). > I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and > easily done). What would people here recommend? I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters. Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the outside world

BK

Bob kb8tq

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 10:45 PM

Hi

Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS restrictions ….
The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:

Hi,
I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters.

Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the outside world

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Hi Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS restrictions …. The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense. Bob > On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: >> Hi, >> I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. >> It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks >> more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have >> problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). >> I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and >> easily done). What would people here recommend? > > I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters. > > Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the outside world > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

BB

Bob Bownes

Sat, Nov 18, 2017 11:03 PM

All GPIB to Ethernet adapters are not created equal.

The NI GPIB-E is no longer supported for example, only the 100 & 1000.

Which is very annoying to those that have one.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:45, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS restrictions ….
The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:

Hi,
I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters.

Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the outside world

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All GPIB to Ethernet adapters are not created equal. The NI GPIB-E is no longer supported for example, only the 100 & 1000. Which is very annoying to those that have one. Bob > On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:45, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > > Hi > > Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS restrictions …. > The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense. > > Bob > >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. >>> It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks >>> more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have >>> problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). >>> I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and >>> easily done). What would people here recommend? >> >> I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters. >> >> Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the outside world >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

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Dana Whitlow

Sun, Nov 19, 2017 1:27 AM

Beware-

Many GPIB-to-Ethernet adapters are also very prolific RFI generators-
learned the hard way at Arecibo.

Dana

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

All GPIB to Ethernet adapters are not created equal.

The NI GPIB-E is no longer supported for example, only the 100 & 1000.

Which is very annoying to those that have one.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:45, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS

restrictions ….

The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:

Hi,
I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters.

Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the

outside world

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Beware- Many GPIB-to-Ethernet adapters are also very prolific RFI generators- learned the hard way at Arecibo. Dana On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > > All GPIB to Ethernet adapters are not created equal. > > The NI GPIB-E is no longer supported for example, only the 100 & 1000. > > Which is very annoying to those that have one. > > Bob > > > > > On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:45, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS > restrictions …. > > The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense. > > > > Bob > > > >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >> On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. > >>> It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks > >>> more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have > >>> problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). > >>> I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and > >>> easily done). What would people here recommend? > >> > >> I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters. > >> > >> Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the > outside world > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

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Jeremy Nichols

Sun, Nov 19, 2017 2:23 AM

That is a good suggestion, Dana. My Prologix GPIB-to-Ethernet adapter is
made in a plastic case, so it certainly could radiate if it chose to do so.
I'll have to sniff around sometime while it's operating.

Jeremy

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Dana Whitlow k8yumdoober@gmail.com wrote:

Beware-

Many GPIB-to-Ethernet adapters are also very prolific RFI generators-
learned the hard way at Arecibo.

Dana

On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Bob Bownes bownes@gmail.com wrote:

All GPIB to Ethernet adapters are not created equal.

The NI GPIB-E is no longer supported for example, only the 100 & 1000.

Which is very annoying to those that have one.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:45, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS

restrictions ….

The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense.

Bob

On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:

Hi,
I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux.
It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks
more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have
problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all).
I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and
easily done). What would people here recommend?

I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters.

Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the

outside world

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That is a good suggestion, Dana. My Prologix GPIB-to-Ethernet adapter is made in a plastic case, so it certainly could radiate if it chose to do so. I'll have to sniff around sometime while it's operating. Jeremy On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Dana Whitlow <k8yumdoober@gmail.com> wrote: > Beware- > > Many GPIB-to-Ethernet adapters are also very prolific RFI generators- > learned the hard way at Arecibo. > > Dana > > > On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Bob Bownes <bownes@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > All GPIB to Ethernet adapters are not created equal. > > > > The NI GPIB-E is no longer supported for example, only the 100 & 1000. > > > > Which is very annoying to those that have one. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > On Nov 18, 2017, at 17:45, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > Given all the nonsense with USB drivers / “fake" serial chips / OS > > restrictions …. > > > The ethernet solution makes a lot of sense. > > > > > > Bob > > > > > >> On Nov 18, 2017, at 4:45 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > > >> > > >> On 11/18/17 11:04 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > >>> Hi, > > >>> I have a need for a GBIP adapter that I can use with Linux. > > >>> It shouldn't be too expensive, but I rather spend a few bucks > > >>> more for ease of use. Where "ease of use" means I don't have > > >>> problems with weird drivers on Linux (Windows doesn't matter at all). > > >>> I do not mind writing my own read-out software (that's quickly and > > >>> easily done). What would people here recommend? > > >> > > >> I use the Prologix GPIB to Ethernet converters. > > >> > > >> Makes it "platform independent" since it's just an IP socket to the > > outside world > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > >> and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

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Vlad

Sun, Nov 19, 2017 4:40 PM

Hello,

I am doing another fun project. It is data logger at this time. The
"heart" is MV89A OCXO and the "brain" is STM32.
"The box" has 1PPS input to control DAC which will control OCXO. BTW,
this M89A is pretty hot to touch. My other OCXO's not that much warmed.
Is it normal for this Morion model ?
I woul ask an advise regarding following issue. I have signal generator
which produce the square wave. The freq. is 192Hz.

http://www.patoka.org/OCXO/LOGGER/IMG_20171119_104659813.jpg

However, the logger measure it TWICE ! I think its because of that
signal form. Here is the output (in microseconds):

http://www.patoka.org/OCXO/LOGGER/IMG_20171119_104838190.jpg

In average delta is .0026041 s, which is almost equal to 384 Hz (192x2)

For the input I am using the schema similar as HP was using in one of
their counters:

http://www.patoka.org/OCXO/LOGGER/IMG_20171110_123201987.jpg

I tried another source (DDS sine generator, referenced from GPSDO) and
that beast produce exact number of events:

26.5404621
26.5473008
26.5525067
26.5577297
26.5629260
26.5681280
26.5733305
26.5785262
26.5837255
26.23559295
26.5941842
26.5993546
26.6045699
26.6097716
26.6149911
26.6202076
26.6254149
26.6306244
26.6358103
26.6410386
26.6462491

However, it is some "spikes" in the data flow (see above the number
"26.23559295", which suppose to be something as "26.58..."). I can't
understand the reason for that.
The "delta" is .0052 s, which is almost equal to 192 Hz. But data flow
is not that "smooth" though.

In square wave mode, "school grade" Wavetek generator produced exact 192
events with no issues. (Except its output frequency is not that stable)

21.0578286
21.0630547
21.0682807
21.0735070
21.0787330
21.0839591
21.0891852
21.0944112
21.0996372
21.1048632
21.1100892

However, if I switch Wavetek to sine, my logger detected twice number of
event (384)

97.0185559
97.0214570
97.0237852
97.0266822
97.0290048
97.0319054
97.0342336
97.0371408
97.0394552
97.0423578
97.0446802
97.0475836
97.0499131
97.0527969
97.0551313
97.0580259
97.0603560
97.0632648
97.0655869

I would assume, some improvement needs to be done for the data logger
input. I am using 2N5485 and 74AC04 elements there. Any advises will be
appreciated ! Thanks !

--
WBW,

V.P.

Hello, I am doing another fun project. It is data logger at this time. The "heart" is MV89A OCXO and the "brain" is STM32. "The box" has 1PPS input to control DAC which will control OCXO. BTW, this M89A is pretty hot to touch. My other OCXO's not that much warmed. Is it normal for this Morion model ? I woul ask an advise regarding following issue. I have signal generator which produce the square wave. The freq. is 192Hz. http://www.patoka.org/OCXO/LOGGER/IMG_20171119_104659813.jpg However, the logger measure it TWICE ! I think its because of that signal form. Here is the output (in microseconds): http://www.patoka.org/OCXO/LOGGER/IMG_20171119_104838190.jpg In average delta is .0026041 s, which is almost equal to 384 Hz (192x2) For the input I am using the schema similar as HP was using in one of their counters: http://www.patoka.org/OCXO/LOGGER/IMG_20171110_123201987.jpg I tried another source (DDS sine generator, referenced from GPSDO) and that beast produce exact number of events: 26.5404621 26.5473008 26.5525067 26.5577297 26.5629260 26.5681280 26.5733305 26.5785262 26.5837255 26.23559295 26.5941842 26.5993546 26.6045699 26.6097716 26.6149911 26.6202076 26.6254149 26.6306244 26.6358103 26.6410386 26.6462491 However, it is some "spikes" in the data flow (see above the number "26.23559295", which suppose to be something as "26.58..."). I can't understand the reason for that. The "delta" is .0052 s, which is almost equal to 192 Hz. But data flow is not that "smooth" though. In square wave mode, "school grade" Wavetek generator produced exact 192 events with no issues. (Except its output frequency is not that stable) 21.0578286 21.0630547 21.0682807 21.0735070 21.0787330 21.0839591 21.0891852 21.0944112 21.0996372 21.1048632 21.1100892 However, if I switch Wavetek to sine, my logger detected twice number of event (384) 97.0185559 97.0214570 97.0237852 97.0266822 97.0290048 97.0319054 97.0342336 97.0371408 97.0394552 97.0423578 97.0446802 97.0475836 97.0499131 97.0527969 97.0551313 97.0580259 97.0603560 97.0632648 97.0655869 I would assume, some improvement needs to be done for the data logger input. I am using 2N5485 and 74AC04 elements there. Any advises will be appreciated ! Thanks ! -- WBW, V.P.

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Recommendation for cheap GBIP adapter for Linux

Attila Kinali