The Parzen book was on my list (Amazon ), I find these books,  including
Rhea's book practically useless as they do not provide the necessary  non
-linear noise analysis, and do not have real live examples with test data.
Cerda's "Understanding Quartz Crystals and Oscillators book I have not  seen.

73 de Ulrich

In a message dated 10/29/2016 7:32:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
attila@kinali.ch writes:

On Sat,  29 Oct 2016 15:38:33 -0400
Scott Stobbe scott.j.stobbe@gmail.com  wrote:

Compensation"

https://archive.org/details/CrystalOscillatorDesignTemperatureCompensation  .

Depends for  what. If you are looking for books on crystal oscillators
and how to build  them, I would recommend Parzen's book "Design of
Crystal and Other Harmonic  Oscillators". It's probably the most complete
treaty I have seen (though i  have not completely read it). Rhea's last
book "Discrete Oscillator Design"  is definetly also worth a look and
easier written than Parzen's book, but  much less complete. Another book
worth considering, though a bit expensiv  IMHO, is Cerda's "Understanding
Quartz Crystals and Oscillators". Another  current book is Everard's
"Fundamentals of RF Circuit Design: with Low  Noise Oscillators".
If you are interested in harmonic oscillators in  general, then a look
at Ulrich's and Poddar's book "The Design of Modern  Microwave Oscillators
for Wireless Applications" is definitely worth a  look. Quite a bit of
it is also applicable to quartz oscillators and it  contains together with
"A New and Efficient Method of Designing Low Noise  Microwave  Oscillators"
(http://synergymwave.com/Articles/a-new-efficient-method-of-designing-low-no
ise-microwave-oscillators.pdf)  the most on how to get oscillator noise
down.

If you have a IEEE  account, you can get the older of these books
(and a few othersothers) from  the UFFC website:
http://www.ieee-uffc.org/publications/books/index.asp

Attila Kinali

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On Sat, 29 Oct 2016 19:56:53 -0400
KA2WEU--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

You don't have to look then. There are very few people who actually looked
at the noise in oscillator circuits and tried to optimize it. You and
Poddar are definitely those who wrote most about it. Then comes probably
Enrico. One can find a paper here and there analysing different noise
sources, but never a complete treaty.

The lack of noise/non-linear analysis does not mean you cannot learn
from those books, though. They are good books to learn from on how to
build an oscillator. Once that is achieved, one can learn how to make
it low noise by reading your books :-)

			Attila Kinali

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Please don't take this wrong but your use of the word "treaty" is wrong.
I think you mean "treatise".

Pete.

On 10/29/2016 8:05 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:

Am 30.10.2016 um 01:56 schrieb KA2WEU--- via time-nuts:

I really do not like to see Rhea dissed this way. Yes, nonlinear sim may
buy another dB or two,
but in the end one has to stay at least somewhat linear, lest one builds
an 1/f upconverter.
(and Harbec does nonlinear.)

Others don't even have their linear basics complete; everybody talks
loop gain but
nobody shows how you get from your network analyzer to the correct
answer of a
circuit whose output is terminated with its own input and whose input is
terminated
with its own output. It took Rhea to present that on page 3 or so.

And I see a lot of examples compared to actual measurements, and the
Genesys design kits simply work. In fact, Rhea's Genesys is the one
simulator that
saved me most of the time, and that includes LTspice, which says a lot.

He more or less forced Agilent to buy a competitor from the market, while
they had their own ADS. (which tries to be everybody's darling, nothing it
can't do, but it is too complicated if you do not use it every day.)

Silly me, I've bought it. But his book on digital radio is much better.

vy 73 de Gerhard, DK4XP