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Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date

MS
Mark Sims
Sun, Jul 30, 2017 4:17 PM

That does not appear to be the case.  If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting  of 2.800V,  but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values.

My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit  followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS.


Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value.

That does not appear to be the case. If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting of 2.800V, but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values. My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS. -------------- > Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value.
DC
David C. Partridge
Mon, Jul 31, 2017 9:27 AM

I emailed Trimble on the off chance they might have a firmware upgrade.  They sent me an email which covered some units that rolled over in Feb. 2016 for which they say they have no upgrade.

I sent them all the information on the label stuck to the outside of my TB (one of the group buy set), to see if there's any hope ...

I'm not optimistic, but if you don't ask, you don't get.

Cheers
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims
Sent: 30 July 2017 17:18
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date

That does not appear to be the case.  If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting  of 2.800V,  but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values.

My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit  followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS.


Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value.


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I emailed Trimble on the off chance they might have a firmware upgrade. They sent me an email which covered some units that rolled over in Feb. 2016 for which they say they have no upgrade. I sent them all the information on the label stuck to the outside of my TB (one of the group buy set), to see if there's any hope ... I'm not optimistic, but if you don't ask, you don't get. Cheers Dave -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: 30 July 2017 17:18 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date That does not appear to be the case. If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting of 2.800V, but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values. My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS. -------------- > Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Bob kb8tq
Mon, Jul 31, 2017 4:30 PM

Hi

Trimble, even on supported products, is pretty firm about a service contract being in place for updates.
The only exception seems to be security related patches. There have been a lot of examples of this
over the years ….AFIK, there isn’t even a “public” firmware loader for the TBolt.

Indeed, you might get lucky.

Bob

On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:27 AM, David C. Partridge david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk wrote:

I emailed Trimble on the off chance they might have a firmware upgrade.  They sent me an email which covered some units that rolled over in Feb. 2016 for which they say they have no upgrade.

I sent them all the information on the label stuck to the outside of my TB (one of the group buy set), to see if there's any hope ...

I'm not optimistic, but if you don't ask, you don't get.

Cheers
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims
Sent: 30 July 2017 17:18
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date

That does not appear to be the case.  If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting  of 2.800V,  but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values.

My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit  followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS.


Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value.


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Hi Trimble, even on supported products, is pretty firm about a service contract being in place for updates. The only exception seems to be security related patches. There have been a lot of examples of this over the years ….AFIK, there isn’t even a “public” firmware loader for the TBolt. Indeed, you might get lucky. Bob > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:27 AM, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > > I emailed Trimble on the off chance they might have a firmware upgrade. They sent me an email which covered some units that rolled over in Feb. 2016 for which they say they have no upgrade. > > I sent them all the information on the label stuck to the outside of my TB (one of the group buy set), to see if there's any hope ... > > I'm not optimistic, but if you don't ask, you don't get. > > Cheers > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims > Sent: 30 July 2017 17:18 > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date > > That does not appear to be the case. If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting of 2.800V, but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values. > > My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS. > > -------------- > >> Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
DC
David C. Partridge
Mon, Jul 31, 2017 8:21 PM

Unfortunately the unit that you have does not allow for a fw update.

Oh well it was worth asking.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq
Sent: 31 July 2017 17:30
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date

Hi

Trimble, even on supported products, is pretty firm about a service contract being in place for updates.
The only exception seems to be security related patches. There have been a lot of examples of this over the years ….AFIK, there isn’t even a “public” firmware loader for the TBolt.

Indeed, you might get lucky.

Bob

On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:27 AM, David C. Partridge david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk wrote:

I emailed Trimble on the off chance they might have a firmware upgrade.  They sent me an email which covered some units that rolled over in Feb. 2016 for which they say they have no upgrade.

I sent them all the information on the label stuck to the outside of my TB (one of the group buy set), to see if there's any hope ...

I'm not optimistic, but if you don't ask, you don't get.

Cheers
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Sims
Sent: 30 July 2017 17:18
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the
correct date

That does not appear to be the case.  If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting  of 2.800V,  but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values.

My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit  followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS.


Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value.


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> Unfortunately the unit that you have does not allow for a fw update. Oh well it was worth asking. Dave -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq Sent: 31 July 2017 17:30 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the correct date Hi Trimble, even on supported products, is pretty firm about a service contract being in place for updates. The only exception seems to be security related patches. There have been a lot of examples of this over the years ….AFIK, there isn’t even a “public” firmware loader for the TBolt. Indeed, you might get lucky. Bob > On Jul 31, 2017, at 5:27 AM, David C. Partridge <david.partridge@perdrix.co.uk> wrote: > > I emailed Trimble on the off chance they might have a firmware upgrade. They sent me an email which covered some units that rolled over in Feb. 2016 for which they say they have no upgrade. > > I sent them all the information on the label stuck to the outside of my TB (one of the group buy set), to see if there's any hope ... > > I'm not optimistic, but if you don't ask, you don't get. > > Cheers > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark > Sims > Sent: 30 July 2017 17:18 > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt no longer determines the > correct date > > That does not appear to be the case. If it did a reset the DAC should have gone to the InitV eeprom setting of 2.800V, but instead mine spiked to 0.308V which is not close to the InitV or the last known DAC values. > > My log file shows the unit did a filter-reinit followed two seconds later by phase locking the PPS. > > -------------- > >> Or maybe the TBolt reset on rollover and went back to a previously saved DAC value. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.