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Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

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Mark Sims
Mon, Sep 26, 2016 5:50 AM

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How It's Made"
shows.

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. --------------------- Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How It's Made" shows.
AG
Adrian Godwin
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 12:40 PM

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in
the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz
is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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I bought some old crystals on ebay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through the glass. Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" refers to ? On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... > > He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item > was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. > > --------------------- > > Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How > It's Made" > shows. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
CJ
Clint Jay
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 1:04 PM

Might be worth popping over to the GQRP mailing list and asking,  there are
a few enthusiasts there but wireless set no.  7 makes it sound like they
were from a military radio.

On 26 Nov 2016 13:00, "Adrian Godwin" artgodwin@gmail.com wrote:

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in
the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz
is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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Might be worth popping over to the GQRP mailing list and asking, there are a few enthusiasts there but wireless set no. 7 makes it sound like they were from a military radio. On 26 Nov 2016 13:00, "Adrian Godwin" <artgodwin@gmail.com> wrote: > I bought some old crystals on ebay : > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 > > Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in > the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz > is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through > the glass. > > Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" > refers to ? > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... > > > > He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item > > was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. > > > > --------------------- > > > > Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How > > It's Made" > > shows. > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Alan Melia
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 1:43 PM

Hi Adrian (in the UK I think) I think you will find the designation WS.7 is
a UK Military type number. Try and search vintage military radio.
Lovely beasties, I have not seen that configuration and they are probably
quite early in the use of quartz in sets on a manufacturing scale

BestWishes
Alan
G3NYK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Godwin" artgodwin@gmail.com
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible
in
the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz
is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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Hi Adrian (in the UK I think) I think you will find the designation WS.7 is a UK Military type number. Try and search vintage military radio. Lovely beasties, I have not seen that configuration and they are probably quite early in the use of quartz in sets on a manufacturing scale BestWishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Godwin" <artgodwin@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing >I bought some old crystals on ebay : > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 > > Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible > in > the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz > is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through > the glass. > > Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" > refers to ? > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... >> >> He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item >> was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. >> >> --------------------- >> >> Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How >> It's Made" >> shows. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Bob Camp
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 3:15 PM

Hi

Welcome to eBay …..

I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the markings on the parts
they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M devices. Looking
at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big enough for 80 KHz.

My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style transmitter.
The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one in and the
transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. Number 7 for
75 KHz. Just a guess …

Bob

On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin artgodwin@gmail.com wrote:

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in
the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz
is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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Hi Welcome to eBay ….. I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the markings on the parts they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M devices. Looking at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big enough for 80 KHz. My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style transmitter. The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one in and the transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. Number 7 for 75 KHz. Just a guess … Bob > On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin <artgodwin@gmail.com> wrote: > > I bought some old crystals on ebay : > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 > > Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in > the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz > is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through > the glass. > > Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" > refers to ? > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... >> >> He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item >> was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. >> >> --------------------- >> >> Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How >> It's Made" >> shows. >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Paul Berger
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 4:47 PM

Not sure where you got the 80 K cps the seller mentions 80M(eter) and
the items are clearly marked 3720 KCS 3760 KCS and 3780 KCS which would
be in the 80 meter band.

Paul.

On 2016-11-26 11:15 AM, Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

Welcome to eBay …..

I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the markings on the parts
they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M devices. Looking
at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big enough for 80 KHz.

My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style transmitter.
The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one in and the
transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. Number 7 for
75 KHz. Just a guess …

Bob

On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin artgodwin@gmail.com wrote:

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in
the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz
is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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Not sure where you got the 80 K cps the seller mentions 80M(eter) and the items are clearly marked 3720 KCS 3760 KCS and 3780 KCS which would be in the 80 meter band. Paul. On 2016-11-26 11:15 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > Welcome to eBay ….. > > I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the markings on the parts > they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M devices. Looking > at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big enough for 80 KHz. > > My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style transmitter. > The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one in and the > transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. Number 7 for > 75 KHz. Just a guess … > > Bob > > > >> On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin <artgodwin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I bought some old crystals on ebay : >> >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 >> >> Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in >> the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz >> is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through >> the glass. >> >> Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" >> refers to ? >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... >>> >>> He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item >>> was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. >>> >>> --------------------- >>> >>> Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How >>> It's Made" >>> shows. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Mike Feher
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 6:13 PM

Wow, those are really neat. I have several hundred different style holders in my collection, but, I have never seen any like those. Thanks for sharing. Now to find one :). Regards - Mike

Mike B. Feher, N4FS
89 Arnold Blvd.
Howell, NJ, 07731
848-245-9115

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From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Godwin
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:41 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older
"How It's Made"
shows.


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Wow, those are really neat. I have several hundred different style holders in my collection, but, I have never seen any like those. Thanks for sharing. Now to find one :). Regards - Mike Mike B. Feher, N4FS 89 Arnold Blvd. Howell, NJ, 07731 848-245-9115 -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Godwin Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 7:41 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing I bought some old crystals on ebay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through the glass. Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" refers to ? On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... > > He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item > was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. > > --------------------- > > Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older > "How It's Made" > shows. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow > the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Orin Eman
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 6:21 PM

Actually, there is a 37 before the last digits, so they are 3720, 3760 and
3780 kHz.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

Welcome to eBay …..

I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the
markings on the parts
they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M
devices. Looking
at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big
enough for 80 KHz.

My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style
transmitter.
The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one
in and the
transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz.
Number 7 for
75 KHz. Just a guess …

Bob

On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin artgodwin@gmail.com wrote:

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible

in

the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the

quartz

is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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Actually, there is a 37 before the last digits, so they are 3720, 3760 and 3780 kHz. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > Welcome to eBay ….. > > I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the > markings on the parts > they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M > devices. Looking > at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big > enough for 80 KHz. > > My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style > transmitter. > The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one > in and the > transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. > Number 7 for > 75 KHz. Just a guess … > > Bob > > > > > On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin <artgodwin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I bought some old crystals on ebay : > > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 > > > > Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible > in > > the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the > quartz > > is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through > > the glass. > > > > Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" > > refers to ? > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... > >> > >> He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item > >> was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. > >> > >> --------------------- > >> > >> Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How > >> It's Made" > >> shows. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Bob Stewart
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 6:38 PM

To me, these devices look like they may have a quartz crystal at the bottom, and spring and screw adjuster on the top.
Bob - AE6RV

  From: Paul Berger <phb.hfx@gmail.com>

To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing

Not sure where you got the 80 K cps the seller mentions 80M(eter) and
the items are clearly marked 3720 KCS 3760 KCS and 3780 KCS which would
be in the 80 meter band.

Paul.

On 2016-11-26 11:15 AM, Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

Welcome to eBay …..

I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the markings on the parts
they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M devices. Looking
at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big enough for 80 KHz.

My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style transmitter.
The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one in and the
transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. Number 7 for
75 KHz. Just a guess …

Bob

On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin artgodwin@gmail.com wrote:

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in
the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz
is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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To me, these devices look like they may have a quartz crystal at the bottom, and spring and screw adjuster on the top. Bob - AE6RV From: Paul Berger <phb.hfx@gmail.com> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Vintage Quartz Crystal Manufacturing Not sure where you got the 80 K cps the seller mentions 80M(eter) and the items are clearly marked 3720 KCS 3760 KCS and 3780 KCS which would be in the 80 meter band. Paul. On 2016-11-26 11:15 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > Welcome to eBay ….. > > I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the markings on the parts > they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M devices. Looking > at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big enough for 80 KHz. > > My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style transmitter. > The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one in and the > transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. Number 7 for > 75 KHz. Just a guess … > > Bob > > > >> On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin <artgodwin@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I bought some old crystals on ebay : >> >> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 >> >> Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible in >> the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the quartz >> is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through >> the glass. >> >> Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" >> refers to ? >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could... >>> >>> He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item >>> was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. >>> >>> --------------------- >>> >>> Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How >>> It's Made" >>> shows. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Adrian Godwin
Sat, Nov 26, 2016 6:55 PM

The markings are actually 3720 k/cs, 3760 k/cs and 3780 k/cs. And I think
it's probably for the wireless No 7 shown in http://www.wftw.nl/wsets.html.
But you could be right - they may not be crystals.

As for ebay .. yes, buyer beware. Though in this case I know the seller
personally and while he might be mistaken, he won't be intentionally
misleading.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

Welcome to eBay …..

I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the
markings on the parts
they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M
devices. Looking
at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big
enough for 80 KHz.

My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style
transmitter.
The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one
in and the
transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz.
Number 7 for
75 KHz. Just a guess …

Bob

On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin artgodwin@gmail.com wrote:

I bought some old crystals on ebay :

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483

Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible

in

the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the

quartz

is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through
the glass.

Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7"
refers to ?

On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims holrum@hotmail.com wrote:

Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?"  I knew you could...

He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item
was made.  Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching.


Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How
It's Made"
shows.


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The markings are actually 3720 k/cs, 3760 k/cs and 3780 k/cs. And I think it's probably for the wireless No 7 shown in http://www.wftw.nl/wsets.html. But you could be right - they may not be crystals. As for ebay .. yes, buyer beware. Though in this case I know the seller personally and while he might be mistaken, he won't be intentionally misleading. On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > Welcome to eBay ….. > > I don’t believe those are crystals at all. If you take a look at the > markings on the parts > they are labeled “80 K cps”. In other words they are 80 KHz not 80M > devices. Looking > at the gap, if there is a crystal in there it’s not obvious that it’s big > enough for 80 KHz. > > My guess is that they are tank tuning caps for an mechanical MOPA style > transmitter. > The size and construction are about right for that sort of thing. Swap one > in and the > transmit frequency changes. Number 7 for 80 KHz. Number 8 for 85 KHz. > Number 7 for > 75 KHz. Just a guess … > > Bob > > > > > On Nov 26, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Adrian Godwin <artgodwin@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I bought some old crystals on ebay : > > > > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/122225114483 > > > > Is anyone familiar with this style ? I don't think the quartz is visible > in > > the glass section : I imagine that's just an insulator. I think the > quartz > > is under a brass disc, with a sping to hold the disc down visible through > > the glass. > > > > Does anyone know what the reference marked on them "w'less sets No 7" > > refers to ? > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 6:50 AM, Mark Sims <holrum@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Can you say "Mr Rogers' Neighborhood?" I knew you could... > >> > >> He (along with creepy Mr McFeelie) always ran segments on how some item > >> was made. Geared towards pre-schoolers, but always worth watching. > >> > >> --------------------- > >> > >> Compare the Science channel's new "How Do They Do It" to the older "How > >> It's Made" > >> shows. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >