Hi So let’s see, 140 feet that way would be three yards over … that way crosses the street and makes it to the back of his yard …. this way is past the back of the lot and four lots down …. that other way is over the other street and into his front yard …. Hmm …. not likely to work here :) Bob > On Jun 19, 2017, at 1:23 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ole > I may be able to give you some insight. I live some 1500 + miles from WWVB > in the US on the east coast. Not a favored transmission direction. > So for years I did the small loop and loop stick game. > Then 5 years ago I built a real shielded loop. 10' X 10' 800 ft of wire > approx. Then a preamp. Its sits 140 ft away from anything in the woods > about 10 ft off the ground. > The difference it has made in my ability to consistently use wwvb is > amazing. Daytime was 20-30uv maybe now 300uv and at night 1000uv and more. > > The loop was cheap to build. Get 25 conductor surplus shielded cable. It > doesn't have to be 25 wires especially since you are at 200 KHz. > See if that doesn't help you in Denmark. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Ole Stender Nielsen <olstni@mail.tele.dk> > wrote: > >> I got a Halcyon OFS-1 a while back, and found it was virtually impossible >> to use here in Denmark, which seems to be located too far away from the >> Allouis (162 kHz) or Droitwich (198 kHz) transmitter sites. One major >> design flaw of the OFS-1 is the digital divider used to divide an analog >> signal. >> You can find more information about an experimental modification to >> increase the robustness and usefulness of the OFS-1 here: >> http://dabbledoo.weebly.com/halcyon-ofs-1.html >> >> Best regards >> Ole >> >> >> >> Den 19-06-2017 kl. 17:15 skrev Clint Jay: >> >>> Mine is somewhat different to that model, the case is the same as the >>> leftmost one but the board is quite different to the middle picture. >>> >>> I'll post some links to pictures of the internals and start drawing out >>> the >>> circuit over the coming few days. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 June 2017 at 14:29, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Great pix can be found here and absolutely can easily be reverse >>>> engineered. >>>> https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97999 >>>> Very simple straight forward design. >>>> Regards >>>> Paul >>>> WB8TSL >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:25 AM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello to the group. I suspect I will never see such a unit in the states. >>>>> Also it wouldn't be useful. >>>>> But that said its sounds as though its a traditional simple receiver >>>>> that >>>>> should be able to be reverse engineered. At least for the signal and >>>>> locking chain. If a micro is involved then things get fuzzy fast. Anyhow >>>>> good luck with you digging in. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Paul >>>>> WB8TSL >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Stephen, Nigel, I'll take some pictures of the board in my >>>>>> >>>>> OFS-1 >>>> >>>>> but it doesn't match any of the pictures I've tracked down so far. >>>>>> >>>>>> Interesting that the board mounted on the rear of the enclosure with >>>>>> the >>>>>> trimmers appears to be Vero or perf board of some description... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 June 2017 at 11:54, Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) < >>>>>> >>>>> stephen@tompsett.net> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have a little Halcyon information I managed to find a few years ago >>>>>>> when I acquired a couple of PFS units. It includes a brief document on >>>>>>> OFS alignment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll mail the documentation to you directly... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19/06/2017 10:17, Clint Jay wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been given a Halcyon Electronics OFS1 standard which seems to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> work, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it's a version that has 198KHz and 162KHz selector on the fron and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> after >>>>>> >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> reasonable period of time it displays 'lock' and gives a nicely >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> stable >>>> >>>>> 1,10 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and 10 MHz output on the front panel BNCs, (I know, it should be 1,5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>>> 10MHz out, read on) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Does anyone know of a PDF manual? This version has two KHz crystals >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> inside >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it and I'd like to see how/if it's been modified so a manual with a >>>>>>>> schematic would be even more useful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) >>>>>>> Tel: 01788 578940 >>>>>>> Mob: 07956 855816 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Clint. >>>>>> >>>>>> *No trees were harmed in the sending of this mail. However, a large >>>>>> >>>>> number >>>> >>>>> of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.* >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >>>>>> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

Use what you can. Regards On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > So let’s see, 140 feet that way would be three yards over … that way > crosses the street and makes > it to the back of his yard …. this way is past the back of the lot and > four lots down …. that other way > is over the other street and into his front yard …. > > Hmm …. not likely to work here :) > > Bob > > > On Jun 19, 2017, at 1:23 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Ole > > I may be able to give you some insight. I live some 1500 + miles from > WWVB > > in the US on the east coast. Not a favored transmission direction. > > So for years I did the small loop and loop stick game. > > Then 5 years ago I built a real shielded loop. 10' X 10' 800 ft of wire > > approx. Then a preamp. Its sits 140 ft away from anything in the woods > > about 10 ft off the ground. > > The difference it has made in my ability to consistently use wwvb is > > amazing. Daytime was 20-30uv maybe now 300uv and at night 1000uv and > more. > > > > The loop was cheap to build. Get 25 conductor surplus shielded cable. It > > doesn't have to be 25 wires especially since you are at 200 KHz. > > See if that doesn't help you in Denmark. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Ole Stender Nielsen < > olstni@mail.tele.dk> > > wrote: > > > >> I got a Halcyon OFS-1 a while back, and found it was virtually > impossible > >> to use here in Denmark, which seems to be located too far away from the > >> Allouis (162 kHz) or Droitwich (198 kHz) transmitter sites. One major > >> design flaw of the OFS-1 is the digital divider used to divide an analog > >> signal. > >> You can find more information about an experimental modification to > >> increase the robustness and usefulness of the OFS-1 here: > >> http://dabbledoo.weebly.com/halcyon-ofs-1.html > >> > >> Best regards > >> Ole > >> > >> > >> > >> Den 19-06-2017 kl. 17:15 skrev Clint Jay: > >> > >>> Mine is somewhat different to that model, the case is the same as the > >>> leftmost one but the board is quite different to the middle picture. > >>> > >>> I'll post some links to pictures of the internals and start drawing out > >>> the > >>> circuit over the coming few days. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 19 June 2017 at 14:29, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Great pix can be found here and absolutely can easily be reverse > >>>> engineered. > >>>> https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97999 > >>>> Very simple straight forward design. > >>>> Regards > >>>> Paul > >>>> WB8TSL > >>>> > >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:25 AM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello to the group. I suspect I will never see such a unit in the > states. > >>>>> Also it wouldn't be useful. > >>>>> But that said its sounds as though its a traditional simple receiver > >>>>> that > >>>>> should be able to be reverse engineered. At least for the signal and > >>>>> locking chain. If a micro is involved then things get fuzzy fast. > Anyhow > >>>>> good luck with you digging in. > >>>>> Regards > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> WB8TSL > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Thank you Stephen, Nigel, I'll take some pictures of the board in my > >>>>>> > >>>>> OFS-1 > >>>> > >>>>> but it doesn't match any of the pictures I've tracked down so far. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Interesting that the board mounted on the rear of the enclosure with > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> trimmers appears to be Vero or perf board of some description... > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 19 June 2017 at 11:54, Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) < > >>>>>> > >>>>> stephen@tompsett.net> > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have a little Halcyon information I managed to find a few years > ago > >>>>>>> when I acquired a couple of PFS units. It includes a brief > document on > >>>>>>> OFS alignment. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'll mail the documentation to you directly... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On 19/06/2017 10:17, Clint Jay wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I have been given a Halcyon Electronics OFS1 standard which seems > to > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> work, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it's a version that has 198KHz and 162KHz selector on the fron and > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> after > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> a > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> reasonable period of time it displays 'lock' and gives a nicely > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> stable > >>>> > >>>>> 1,10 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> and 10 MHz output on the front panel BNCs, (I know, it should be > 1,5 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> 10MHz out, read on) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Does anyone know of a PDF manual? This version has two KHz > crystals > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> inside > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> it and I'd like to see how/if it's been modified so a manual with > a > >>>>>>>> schematic would be even more useful. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) > >>>>>>> Tel: 01788 578940 > >>>>>>> Mob: 07956 855816 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>>>>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Clint. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> *No trees were harmed in the sending of this mail. However, a large > >>>>>> > >>>>> number > >>>> > >>>>> of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.* > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > >>>>>> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>>>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

It's a Friday afternoon job! On 19/06/2017 18:26, Clint Jay wrote: > It seems I have a hybrid, on the front panel it's an OFS-1, on the serial > number label it's an OFS-1A and on the PCB it's an OFS-2. > > http://imgur.com/a/brRou > > On 19 June 2017 at 17:40, Ole Stender Nielsen <olstni@mail.tele.dk> wrote: > >> I got a Halcyon OFS-1 a while back, and found it was virtually impossible >> to use here in Denmark, which seems to be located too far away from the >> Allouis (162 kHz) or Droitwich (198 kHz) transmitter sites. One major >> design flaw of the OFS-1 is the digital divider used to divide an analog >> signal. >> You can find more information about an experimental modification to >> increase the robustness and usefulness of the OFS-1 here: >> http://dabbledoo.weebly.com/halcyon-ofs-1.html >> >> Best regards >> Ole >> >> >> >> Den 19-06-2017 kl. 17:15 skrev Clint Jay: >> >>> Mine is somewhat different to that model, the case is the same as the >>> leftmost one but the board is quite different to the middle picture. >>> >>> I'll post some links to pictures of the internals and start drawing out >>> the >>> circuit over the coming few days. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 19 June 2017 at 14:29, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Great pix can be found here and absolutely can easily be reverse >>>> engineered. >>>> https://www.vintage-radio.net/forum/showthread.php?t=97999 >>>> Very simple straight forward design. >>>> Regards >>>> Paul >>>> WB8TSL >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:25 AM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello to the group. I suspect I will never see such a unit in the states. >>>>> Also it wouldn't be useful. >>>>> But that said its sounds as though its a traditional simple receiver >>>>> that >>>>> should be able to be reverse engineered. At least for the signal and >>>>> locking chain. If a micro is involved then things get fuzzy fast. Anyhow >>>>> good luck with you digging in. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Paul >>>>> WB8TSL >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 8:27 AM, Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thank you Stephen, Nigel, I'll take some pictures of the board in my >>>>> OFS-1 >>>>> but it doesn't match any of the pictures I've tracked down so far. >>>>>> Interesting that the board mounted on the rear of the enclosure with >>>>>> the >>>>>> trimmers appears to be Vero or perf board of some description... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 June 2017 at 11:54, Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) < >>>>>> >>>>> stephen@tompsett.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I have a little Halcyon information I managed to find a few years ago >>>>>>> when I acquired a couple of PFS units. It includes a brief document on >>>>>>> OFS alignment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll mail the documentation to you directly... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19/06/2017 10:17, Clint Jay wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have been given a Halcyon Electronics OFS1 standard which seems to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> work, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it's a version that has 198KHz and 162KHz selector on the fron and >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> after >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> reasonable period of time it displays 'lock' and gives a nicely >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> stable >>>>> 1,10 >>>>>>>> and 10 MHz output on the front panel BNCs, (I know, it should be 1,5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> 10MHz out, read on) >>>>>>>> Does anyone know of a PDF manual? This version has two KHz crystals >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> inside >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it and I'd like to see how/if it's been modified so a manual with a >>>>>>>> schematic would be even more useful. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) >>>>>>> Tel: 01788 578940 >>>>>>> Mob: 07956 855816 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>>>>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Clint. >>>>>> >>>>>> *No trees were harmed in the sending of this mail. However, a large >>>>>> >>>>> number >>>>> of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.* >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >>>>>> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > -- Stephen Tompsett

I've learned NEVER to start a new task on "Friday afternoon", unless I want to work on that task thru Monday morning. <smile> ______________________ Clay Autery, KY5G On 6/20/2017 3:36 AM, Stephen Tompsett wrote: > It's a Friday afternoon job! WOW!!! That was a LOT to trim off!!!