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Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 156, Issue 30

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Lee - N2LEE
Sun, Jul 30, 2017 4:16 PM

Chris, I have one NTP GPS based server running locally but I wanted to also setup the
Mac with the Thunderbolt as a second NTP server. This way instead of using an external NTP
server as a backup I would have a second local server.

The Mac is Unix based and has a built in NTP server but it is normally disabled.
If I enable the server isn’t it going to pull its time from the system clock ?
This is the only reason I care about the system clock.

Maybe I am approaching this incorrectly. Maybe the question should be how to get a local
NTP server to use LH/Thunderbolt ?

From: Chris Albertson albertson.chris@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Local System Time Sync
Date: July 26, 2017 at 0:23:15 EDT
To: Lee - N2LEE lee@n2lee.com, Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com

You should be using NTP for that.

Simply "syncing" the local clock to GPS is never the best thing to do.  If
you think about it 50% of the time the local clock would have to go
backwards and 50% forwards.  This means you could have the system time be
at the same time twice or you have missing time intervals.

The correct way is to adjust the RATE of the local clock so you never have
missing or double time.  This is exactly the same as building a GPSDO.
Every adjustment period you compare there PHASE of the local clock to GPS
then adjust the RATE if required.    NTP does this.

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Lee - N2LEE via time-nuts <
time-nuts@febo.com> wrote:

Chris, I have one NTP GPS based server running locally but I wanted to also setup the Mac with the Thunderbolt as a second NTP server. This way instead of using an external NTP server as a backup I would have a second local server. The Mac is Unix based and has a built in NTP server but it is normally disabled. If I enable the server isn’t it going to pull its time from the system clock ? This is the only reason I care about the system clock. Maybe I am approaching this incorrectly. Maybe the question should be how to get a local NTP server to use LH/Thunderbolt ? > > From: Chris Albertson <albertson.chris@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Local System Time Sync > Date: July 26, 2017 at 0:23:15 EDT > To: Lee - N2LEE <lee@n2lee.com>, Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> > > > You should be using NTP for that. > > Simply "syncing" the local clock to GPS is never the best thing to do. If > you think about it 50% of the time the local clock would have to go > backwards and 50% forwards. This means you could have the system time be > at the same time twice or you have missing time intervals. > > The correct way is to adjust the RATE of the local clock so you never have > missing or double time. This is exactly the same as building a GPSDO. > Every adjustment period you compare there PHASE of the local clock to GPS > then adjust the RATE if required. NTP does this. > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Lee - N2LEE via time-nuts < > time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: >