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Re: [time-nuts] The clocks at Windsor Castle, UK

HM
Hal Murray
Fri, Jun 16, 2017 10:02 PM

One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep track of
other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to gain
or loose a day might mess some of that  up.

I haven't worked with that sort of clock.  I would expect they would have
some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things.  Do they?

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kb8tq@n1k.org said: > One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep track of > other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to gain > or loose a day might mess some of that up. I haven't worked with that sort of clock. I would expect they would have some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things. Do they? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
BK
Bob kb8tq
Fri, Jun 16, 2017 10:31 PM

Hi

They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made clocks.
Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be very much
a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the beast
up to sync. It could be pretty involved.

Bob

On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray hmurray@megapathdsl.net wrote:

kb8tq@n1k.org said:

One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep track of
other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to gain
or loose a day might mess some of that  up.

I haven't worked with that sort of clock.  I would expect they would have
some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things.  Do they?

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Hi They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made clocks. Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be very much a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the beast up to sync. It *could* be pretty involved. Bob > On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> wrote: > > > kb8tq@n1k.org said: >> One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep track of >> other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to gain >> or loose a day might mess some of that up. > > I haven't worked with that sort of clock. I would expect they would have > some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things. Do they? > > > -- > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
JS
jim stephens
Fri, Jun 16, 2017 11:05 PM

On 6/16/2017 3:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:

Hi

They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made clocks.
Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be very much
a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the beast
up to sync. It could be pretty involved.

Bob

My father and I were @ a Costco quite some time ago and there was a very
nice clock with full Westminster chimes & moon phase. Drove the wife
nuts that we stood around fiddling with it to get it set properly and
back in phase with the other dials.

One of those things that sticks in your gut sometimes if you're a time
nut.  My dad was my original time nut.  He found out that he could take
pocket watches apart when he was a kid and get them running again (1930s).

Fathers Day plug as well.  Miss him a lot
thanks
Jim

On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray hmurray@megapathdsl.net wrote:

kb8tq@n1k.org said:

One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep track of
other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to gain
or loose a day might mess some of that  up.

I haven't worked with that sort of clock.  I would expect they would have
some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things.  Do they?

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On 6/16/2017 3:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made clocks. > Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be very much > a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the beast > up to sync. It *could* be pretty involved. > > Bob My father and I were @ a Costco quite some time ago and there was a very nice clock with full Westminster chimes & moon phase. Drove the wife nuts that we stood around fiddling with it to get it set properly and back in phase with the other dials. One of those things that sticks in your gut sometimes if you're a time nut. My dad was my original time nut. He found out that he could take pocket watches apart when he was a kid and get them running again (1930s). Fathers Day plug as well. Miss him a lot thanks Jim >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> wrote: >> >> >> kb8tq@n1k.org said: >>> One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep track of >>> other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to gain >>> or loose a day might mess some of that up. >> I haven't worked with that sort of clock. I would expect they would have >> some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things. Do they? >> >> >> -- >> These are my opinions. I hate spam. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >
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William H. Fite
Sat, Jun 17, 2017 1:05 AM

The clocks at Windsor range from C14 wooden-geared pieces to French
masterpieces of haute horlogerie with multiple complications including
perpetual calendars, sidereal time, equation of time, true local solar
time, date of Easter, various star charts and astronomical data, orreries,
animated figures and other automata. The more exotic and delicate of these
are not run continually but are started up periodically to test their
operation and when the Royals wish to demonstrate them to guests.

On Friday, June 16, 2017, jim stephens jwsmail@jwsss.com wrote:

On 6/16/2017 3:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:

Hi

They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made
clocks.
Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be
very much
a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the
beast
up to sync. It could be pretty involved.

Bob

My father and I were @ a Costco quite some time ago and there was a very
nice clock with full Westminster chimes & moon phase. Drove the wife nuts
that we stood around fiddling with it to get it set properly and back in
phase with the other dials.

One of those things that sticks in your gut sometimes if you're a time
nut.  My dad was my original time nut.  He found out that he could take
pocket watches apart when he was a kid and get them running again (1930s).

Fathers Day plug as well.  Miss him a lot
thanks
Jim

On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray hmurray@megapathdsl.net wrote:

One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep
track of
other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to
gain
or loose a day might mess some of that  up.

I haven't worked with that sort of clock.  I would expect they would have
some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things.  Do they?

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The clocks at Windsor range from C14 wooden-geared pieces to French masterpieces of haute horlogerie with multiple complications including perpetual calendars, sidereal time, equation of time, true local solar time, date of Easter, various star charts and astronomical data, orreries, animated figures and other automata. The more exotic and delicate of these are not run continually but are started up periodically to test their operation and when the Royals wish to demonstrate them to guests. On Friday, June 16, 2017, jim stephens <jwsmail@jwsss.com> wrote: > > > On 6/16/2017 3:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: > >> Hi >> >> They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made >> clocks. >> Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be >> very much >> a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the >> beast >> up to sync. It *could* be pretty involved. >> >> Bob >> > My father and I were @ a Costco quite some time ago and there was a very > nice clock with full Westminster chimes & moon phase. Drove the wife nuts > that we stood around fiddling with it to get it set properly and back in > phase with the other dials. > > One of those things that sticks in your gut sometimes if you're a time > nut. My dad was my original time nut. He found out that he could take > pocket watches apart when he was a kid and get them running again (1930s). > > Fathers Day plug as well. Miss him a lot > thanks > Jim > >> On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> kb8tq@n1k.org said: >>> >>>> One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep >>>> track of >>>> other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to >>>> gain >>>> or loose a day might mess some of that up. >>>> >>> I haven't worked with that sort of clock. I would expect they would have >>> some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things. Do they? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> These are my opinions. I hate spam. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >>> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m > ailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- William H Fite, PhD Independent Consultant Statistical Analysis & Research Methods
WK
Will Kimber
Sat, Jun 17, 2017 2:22 AM

And when those clocks were made there was no thought that in few
centuries time a system that decrees that the time be put forward and
back would be invented. They ran continuously and THAT was the time!

Will

On 06/17/2017 01:05 PM, William H. Fite wrote:

The clocks at Windsor range from C14 wooden-geared pieces to French
masterpieces of haute horlogerie with multiple complications including
perpetual calendars, sidereal time, equation of time, true local solar
time, date of Easter, various star charts and astronomical data, orreries,
animated figures and other automata. The more exotic and delicate of these
are not run continually but are started up periodically to test their
operation and when the Royals wish to demonstrate them to guests.

On Friday, June 16, 2017, jim stephens jwsmail@jwsss.com wrote:

On 6/16/2017 3:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:

Hi

They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made
clocks.
Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be
very much
a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the
beast
up to sync. It could be pretty involved.

Bob

My father and I were @ a Costco quite some time ago and there was a very
nice clock with full Westminster chimes & moon phase. Drove the wife nuts
that we stood around fiddling with it to get it set properly and back in
phase with the other dials.

One of those things that sticks in your gut sometimes if you're a time
nut.  My dad was my original time nut.  He found out that he could take
pocket watches apart when he was a kid and get them running again (1930s).

Fathers Day plug as well.  Miss him a lot
thanks
Jim

On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray hmurray@megapathdsl.net wrote:

One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep
track of
other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to
gain
or loose a day might mess some of that  up.

I haven't worked with that sort of clock.  I would expect they would have
some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things.  Do they?

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And when those clocks were made there was no thought that in few centuries time a system that decrees that the time be put forward and back would be invented. They ran continuously and THAT was the time! Will On 06/17/2017 01:05 PM, William H. Fite wrote: > The clocks at Windsor range from C14 wooden-geared pieces to French > masterpieces of haute horlogerie with multiple complications including > perpetual calendars, sidereal time, equation of time, true local solar > time, date of Easter, various star charts and astronomical data, orreries, > animated figures and other automata. The more exotic and delicate of these > are not run continually but are started up periodically to test their > operation and when the Royals wish to demonstrate them to guests. > > > On Friday, June 16, 2017, jim stephens <jwsmail@jwsss.com> wrote: > >> >> On 6/16/2017 3:31 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> They have been a novelty item just about as long as people have made >>> clocks. >>> Exactly what they do or do not have for adjustment capability would be >>> very much >>> a “that depends” kind of thing. There must be some method of getting the >>> beast >>> up to sync. It *could* be pretty involved. >>> >>> Bob >>> >> My father and I were @ a Costco quite some time ago and there was a very >> nice clock with full Westminster chimes & moon phase. Drove the wife nuts >> that we stood around fiddling with it to get it set properly and back in >> phase with the other dials. >> >> One of those things that sticks in your gut sometimes if you're a time >> nut. My dad was my original time nut. He found out that he could take >> pocket watches apart when he was a kid and get them running again (1930s). >> >> Fathers Day plug as well. Miss him a lot >> thanks >> Jim >> >>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Hal Murray <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> kb8tq@n1k.org said: >>>> >>>>> One thing that may be missing is that the clocks involved also keep >>>>> track of >>>>> other things (date, lunar phase, sunrise / sunset …). Forcing them to >>>>> gain >>>>> or loose a day might mess some of that up. >>>>> >>>> I haven't worked with that sort of clock. I would expect they would have >>>> some mechanism to set the clock back without damaging things. Do they? >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> These are my opinions. I hate spam. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >>>> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >>> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/m >> ailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> >