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The "NAKED" 5065A optical unit

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cdelect@juno.com
Tue, Feb 20, 2018 6:03 PM

Paul,

You do NOT want to take one apart to this level!

It's never going to operate again.

If you look at the lamp in the PIX you will see a white coil wrapped
around the bulb.

This is the tank for the 90Mhz drive and it sits cocked at a 45 degree
angle.

The lamp assy can be removed easily via 3 small screws and repaired or
modified.

The Lamp circuit is designed to put out a bit higher RF level and once
the lamp starts it drops down a bit.

I would question re-engineering the lamp circuit as it can easily reach
1.5X10-13th at 100 Sec stability and 5X10-14th at 100 Sec. with the
filter mod.

Unless you have a maser or BVA to compare against how will you know if
any modifications are going to help or hurt?

The only thing I replace even if it measures OK is the 1.33K resistor as
it will "crack" eventually and change value.

A 1.3K 5% 1W metal oxide works well.

Cheers,

Corby

Paul, You do NOT want to take one apart to this level! It's never going to operate again. If you look at the lamp in the PIX you will see a white coil wrapped around the bulb. This is the tank for the 90Mhz drive and it sits cocked at a 45 degree angle. The lamp assy can be removed easily via 3 small screws and repaired or modified. The Lamp circuit is designed to put out a bit higher RF level and once the lamp starts it drops down a bit. I would question re-engineering the lamp circuit as it can easily reach 1.5X10-13th at 100 Sec stability and 5X10-14th at 100 Sec. with the filter mod. Unless you have a maser or BVA to compare against how will you know if any modifications are going to help or hurt? The only thing I replace even if it measures OK is the 1.33K resistor as it will "crack" eventually and change value. A 1.3K 5% 1W metal oxide works well. Cheers, Corby
PS
paul swed
Tue, Feb 20, 2018 6:10 PM

Corby no intent to rework the bulb.
Its just I have had good success with bulbs from the FE-XXXX series when
they fail to operate by heating the bulb to re-vaporize the "Stuff" that
plates out. Wasn't sure if this would be an approach on the 5065 when that
day comes for mine.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:03 PM, cdelect@juno.com wrote:

Paul,

You do NOT want to take one apart to this level!

It's never going to operate again.

If you look at the lamp in the PIX you will see a white coil wrapped
around the bulb.

This is the tank for the 90Mhz drive and it sits cocked at a 45 degree
angle.

The lamp assy can be removed easily via 3 small screws and repaired or
modified.

The Lamp circuit is designed to put out a bit higher RF level and once
the lamp starts it drops down a bit.

I would question re-engineering the lamp circuit as it can easily reach
1.5X10-13th at 100 Sec stability and 5X10-14th at 100 Sec. with the
filter mod.

Unless you have a maser or BVA to compare against how will you know if
any modifications are going to help or hurt?

The only thing I replace even if it measures OK is the 1.33K resistor as
it will "crack" eventually and change value.

A 1.3K 5% 1W metal oxide works well.

Cheers,

Corby


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Corby no intent to rework the bulb. Its just I have had good success with bulbs from the FE-XXXX series when they fail to operate by heating the bulb to re-vaporize the "Stuff" that plates out. Wasn't sure if this would be an approach on the 5065 when that day comes for mine. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 1:03 PM, <cdelect@juno.com> wrote: > Paul, > > You do NOT want to take one apart to this level! > > It's never going to operate again. > > If you look at the lamp in the PIX you will see a white coil wrapped > around the bulb. > > This is the tank for the 90Mhz drive and it sits cocked at a 45 degree > angle. > > The lamp assy can be removed easily via 3 small screws and repaired or > modified. > > The Lamp circuit is designed to put out a bit higher RF level and once > the lamp starts it drops down a bit. > > I would question re-engineering the lamp circuit as it can easily reach > 1.5X10-13th at 100 Sec stability and 5X10-14th at 100 Sec. with the > filter mod. > > Unless you have a maser or BVA to compare against how will you know if > any modifications are going to help or hurt? > > The only thing I replace even if it measures OK is the 1.33K resistor as > it will "crack" eventually and change value. > > A 1.3K 5% 1W metal oxide works well. > > Cheers, > > Corby > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Attila Kinali
Wed, Feb 21, 2018 3:33 PM

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:03:20 -0800
cdelect@juno.com wrote:

You do NOT want to take one apart to this level!

It's never going to operate again.

Why not? Is there something you had to break to open it up this far?

		Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:03:20 -0800 <cdelect@juno.com> wrote: > You do NOT want to take one apart to this level! > > It's never going to operate again. Why not? Is there something you had to break to open it up this far? Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson
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Scott McGrath
Wed, Feb 21, 2018 3:38 PM

WRT Rb on the envelope,  the 5065A has a built in 'cold trap' to recover the Rb into the reservoir,  Instructions on use are in the manual

Content by Scott
Typos by Siri

On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Attila Kinali attila@kinali.ch wrote:

On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:03:20 -0800
cdelect@juno.com wrote:

You do NOT want to take one apart to this level!

It's never going to operate again.

Why not? Is there something you had to break to open it up this far?

       Attila Kinali

--
It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All
the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no
use without that foundation.
-- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson


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WRT Rb on the envelope, the 5065A has a built in 'cold trap' to recover the Rb into the reservoir, Instructions on use are in the manual Content by Scott Typos by Siri On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Attila Kinali <attila@kinali.ch> wrote: On Tue, 20 Feb 2018 10:03:20 -0800 <cdelect@juno.com> wrote: > You do NOT want to take one apart to this level! > > It's never going to operate again. Why not? Is there something you had to break to open it up this far? Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All the prosperity and technological sophistication in the world is of no use without that foundation. -- Miss Matheson, The Diamond Age, Neil Stephenson _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.