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Closeup photo of Thunderbolt PCB around U19 needed

CW
Chris Waldrup
Fri, Aug 4, 2017 10:39 PM

Sorry. Should have changed subject line before. Just changed it.

The EEV blog link shows the transistors but it's too fuzzy to read SMT part markings. If I can get a code I'll try and look it up online.

Thank you.

Chris

On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Chris Waldrup kd4pbj@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks guys.
I've opened up my T bolt and noticed a SOT23 packaged part has the top blown off.
The PPS BNC jack has U19 beside it.
The next part is blown. Could someone take a closeup of the five parts around U19?
The intact parts are marked:
5Dz
1AM
and two 2Az parts.

Chris

On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Arthur Dent golgarfrincham@gmail.com wrote:

Actually that isn't my photo I linked to but one I just Googled. That is
probably a board revision most people don't have but it was the first one
I saw so I used it just to show that the GPS receiver is part of the
only circuit board and not another easily replaceable board like in some
other units.

I just took a couple of photos of the later revision of the board for
anyone interested in seeing what might be fried. In the photo of the
top of the board the signal comes into a filter then to a 25db amp
marked AM50002 by Macom. Above the filter near the input is where the
decoupled +5VDC for the antenna is connected. If you are only reading
0.5VDC, if your're lucky it might only be the amp is fried and that
could be an easy fix. If the 5VDC is ok with the amp input pin lifted,
it might be the only problem. I wouldn't bet on it though. The 4031 I
believe is a 1575.42 SAW filter

The photo of the bottom of the receiver area shows a Sawtek filter and
other parts. At the bottom of the photo is C460, a feedthrough capacitor
and that might be where the receiver output is but where my Tbolts are
working I don't feel the need to look into whether you could connect
the output of a seperate GPS receiver there to make it work.

I do have one Tbolt that has no oscillator. I brought the EFC and 10Mhz
connections to SMA connectors on the back so I can test other oscillators
or GPSDOs that don't have an easy way to monitor of graph the stability
of those units and using Lady Heather gives me a good way to compare the
graphs to ones I'm used to. You might possibly be able to replace the
built-in receiver but it might be easier to buy a working Thunderbolt.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20top%201_zpslgxunnyw.jpg

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20bottom%201_zpschvruppt.jpg


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Sorry. Should have changed subject line before. Just changed it. The EEV blog link shows the transistors but it's too fuzzy to read SMT part markings. If I can get a code I'll try and look it up online. Thank you. Chris > On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Chris Waldrup <kd4pbj@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks guys. > I've opened up my T bolt and noticed a SOT23 packaged part has the top blown off. > The PPS BNC jack has U19 beside it. > The next part is blown. Could someone take a closeup of the five parts around U19? > The intact parts are marked: > 5Dz > 1AM > and two 2Az parts. > > > Chris > >> On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Arthur Dent <golgarfrincham@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Actually that isn't my photo I linked to but one I just Googled. That is >> probably a board revision most people don't have but it was the first one >> I saw so I used it just to show that the GPS receiver is part of the >> only circuit board and not another easily replaceable board like in some >> other units. >> >> I just took a couple of photos of the later revision of the board for >> anyone interested in seeing what might be fried. In the photo of the >> top of the board the signal comes into a filter then to a 25db amp >> marked AM50002 by Macom. Above the filter near the input is where the >> decoupled +5VDC for the antenna is connected. If you are only reading >> 0.5VDC, if your're lucky it might only be the amp is fried and that >> could be an easy fix. If the 5VDC is ok with the amp input pin lifted, >> it might be the only problem. I wouldn't bet on it though. The 4031 I >> believe is a 1575.42 SAW filter >> >> The photo of the bottom of the receiver area shows a Sawtek filter and >> other parts. At the bottom of the photo is C460, a feedthrough capacitor >> and that might be where the receiver output is but where my Tbolts are >> working I don't feel the need to look into whether you could connect >> the output of a seperate GPS receiver there to make it work. >> >> I do have one Tbolt that has no oscillator. I brought the EFC and 10Mhz >> connections to SMA connectors on the back so I can test other oscillators >> or GPSDOs that don't have an easy way to monitor of graph the stability >> of those units and using Lady Heather gives me a good way to compare the >> graphs to ones I'm used to. You might possibly be able to replace the >> built-in receiver but it might be easier to buy a working Thunderbolt. >> >> >> http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20top%201_zpslgxunnyw.jpg >> >> http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20bottom%201_zpschvruppt.jpg >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there.
CW
Chris Waldrup
Fri, Aug 4, 2017 10:47 PM

Part is MMBT3904

On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Chris Waldrup kd4pbj@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry. Should have changed subject line before. Just changed it.

The EEV blog link shows the transistors but it's too fuzzy to read SMT part markings. If I can get a code I'll try and look it up online.

Thank you.

Chris

On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Chris Waldrup kd4pbj@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks guys.
I've opened up my T bolt and noticed a SOT23 packaged part has the top blown off.
The PPS BNC jack has U19 beside it.
The next part is blown. Could someone take a closeup of the five parts around U19?
The intact parts are marked:
5Dz
1AM
and two 2Az parts.

Chris

On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Arthur Dent golgarfrincham@gmail.com wrote:

Actually that isn't my photo I linked to but one I just Googled. That is
probably a board revision most people don't have but it was the first one
I saw so I used it just to show that the GPS receiver is part of the
only circuit board and not another easily replaceable board like in some
other units.

I just took a couple of photos of the later revision of the board for
anyone interested in seeing what might be fried. In the photo of the
top of the board the signal comes into a filter then to a 25db amp
marked AM50002 by Macom. Above the filter near the input is where the
decoupled +5VDC for the antenna is connected. If you are only reading
0.5VDC, if your're lucky it might only be the amp is fried and that
could be an easy fix. If the 5VDC is ok with the amp input pin lifted,
it might be the only problem. I wouldn't bet on it though. The 4031 I
believe is a 1575.42 SAW filter

The photo of the bottom of the receiver area shows a Sawtek filter and
other parts. At the bottom of the photo is C460, a feedthrough capacitor
and that might be where the receiver output is but where my Tbolts are
working I don't feel the need to look into whether you could connect
the output of a seperate GPS receiver there to make it work.

I do have one Tbolt that has no oscillator. I brought the EFC and 10Mhz
connections to SMA connectors on the back so I can test other oscillators
or GPSDOs that don't have an easy way to monitor of graph the stability
of those units and using Lady Heather gives me a good way to compare the
graphs to ones I'm used to. You might possibly be able to replace the
built-in receiver but it might be easier to buy a working Thunderbolt.

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20top%201_zpslgxunnyw.jpg

http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20bottom%201_zpschvruppt.jpg


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Part is MMBT3904 > On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Chris Waldrup <kd4pbj@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry. Should have changed subject line before. Just changed it. > > The EEV blog link shows the transistors but it's too fuzzy to read SMT part markings. If I can get a code I'll try and look it up online. > > Thank you. > > Chris > >> On Aug 4, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Chris Waldrup <kd4pbj@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thanks guys. >> I've opened up my T bolt and noticed a SOT23 packaged part has the top blown off. >> The PPS BNC jack has U19 beside it. >> The next part is blown. Could someone take a closeup of the five parts around U19? >> The intact parts are marked: >> 5Dz >> 1AM >> and two 2Az parts. >> >> >> Chris >> >>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 4:13 PM, Arthur Dent <golgarfrincham@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Actually that isn't my photo I linked to but one I just Googled. That is >>> probably a board revision most people don't have but it was the first one >>> I saw so I used it just to show that the GPS receiver is part of the >>> only circuit board and not another easily replaceable board like in some >>> other units. >>> >>> I just took a couple of photos of the later revision of the board for >>> anyone interested in seeing what might be fried. In the photo of the >>> top of the board the signal comes into a filter then to a 25db amp >>> marked AM50002 by Macom. Above the filter near the input is where the >>> decoupled +5VDC for the antenna is connected. If you are only reading >>> 0.5VDC, if your're lucky it might only be the amp is fried and that >>> could be an easy fix. If the 5VDC is ok with the amp input pin lifted, >>> it might be the only problem. I wouldn't bet on it though. The 4031 I >>> believe is a 1575.42 SAW filter >>> >>> The photo of the bottom of the receiver area shows a Sawtek filter and >>> other parts. At the bottom of the photo is C460, a feedthrough capacitor >>> and that might be where the receiver output is but where my Tbolts are >>> working I don't feel the need to look into whether you could connect >>> the output of a seperate GPS receiver there to make it work. >>> >>> I do have one Tbolt that has no oscillator. I brought the EFC and 10Mhz >>> connections to SMA connectors on the back so I can test other oscillators >>> or GPSDOs that don't have an easy way to monitor of graph the stability >>> of those units and using Lady Heather gives me a good way to compare the >>> graphs to ones I'm used to. You might possibly be able to replace the >>> built-in receiver but it might be easier to buy a working Thunderbolt. >>> >>> >>> http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20top%201_zpslgxunnyw.jpg >>> >>> http://i906.photobucket.com/albums/ac262/rjb1998/GPS%20bottom%201_zpschvruppt.jpg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there.