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Using the HP 58503a to correct your PC clock

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Mark Sims
Thu, Aug 4, 2016 5:24 PM

Probably the best way for most people to keep their clock accurate is to use something like NTP with a local GPS receiver  that provides a 1PPS signal that you can get into your computer (not always an easy thing to do and get working properly).  Done properly, this can get you into the micro-second area.

The next best way is something like NTP with only an internet connection...  this gets asymmetric network path timing errors into play.  This can get you into the millisecond area.

Finally, if you have no net connection or 1PPS signal into your computer or your device can't run NTP,  you have to resort to poor man kludges like using Lady Heather to periodically sync your system clock.  This gets you into the 10's of millisecond area...  plus your system clock probably won't be monotonically increasing.


I'm working with NTP right now, using Dimension 4, after having discovered D4's history info.

Probably the best way for most people to keep their clock accurate is to use something like NTP with a local GPS receiver that provides a 1PPS signal that you can get into your computer (not always an easy thing to do and get working properly). Done properly, this can get you into the micro-second area. The next best way is something like NTP with only an internet connection... this gets asymmetric network path timing errors into play. This can get you into the millisecond area. Finally, if you have no net connection or 1PPS signal into your computer or your device can't run NTP, you have to resort to poor man kludges like using Lady Heather to periodically sync your system clock. This gets you into the 10's of millisecond area... plus your system clock probably won't be monotonically increasing. --------------- I'm working with NTP right now, using Dimension 4, after having discovered D4's history info.
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cfo
Thu, Aug 4, 2016 7:11 PM

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 17:24:31 +0000, Mark Sims wrote:

Probably the best way for most people to keep their clock accurate is to
use something like NTP

Doesn't Meinberg have a Win7 version of ntp on their homepage ?

Why not use that

CFO

On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 17:24:31 +0000, Mark Sims wrote: > Probably the best way for most people to keep their clock accurate is to > use something like NTP Doesn't Meinberg have a Win7 version of ntp on their homepage ? Why not use that CFO
DJ
David J Taylor
Fri, Aug 5, 2016 7:30 AM

Doesn't Meinberg have a Win7 version of ntp on their homepage ?

Why not use that

CFO

Installation guide and Win-7/8/10 notes here:

http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html

Cheers,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv

Doesn't Meinberg have a Win7 version of ntp on their homepage ? Why not use that CFO =============================== Installation guide and Win-7/8/10 notes here: http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv
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Ron Ott
Fri, Aug 5, 2016 4:45 PM

The Meinberg page I'm reading has NTP downloads for Windows XP and newer and for older versions of Windows. If you meant a special version of NTP for Windows 7, I didn't see mention of it.
Ron
From: David J Taylor david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 12:30 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Using the HP 58503a to correct your PC clock

Doesn't Meinberg have a Win7 version of ntp on their homepage ?

Why not use that

CFO

Installation guide and Win-7/8/10 notes here:

  http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html

Cheers,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv


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The Meinberg page I'm reading has NTP downloads for Windows XP and newer and for older versions of Windows. If you meant a special version of NTP for Windows 7, I didn't see mention of it. Ron From: David J Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk> To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Using the HP 58503a to correct your PC clock Doesn't Meinberg have a Win7 version of ntp on their homepage ? Why not use that CFO =============================== Installation guide and Win-7/8/10 notes here:   http://www.satsignal.eu/ntp/setup.html Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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Martin Burnicki
Sat, Aug 6, 2016 8:08 AM

Ron,

Ron Ott wrote:

The Meinberg page I'm reading has NTP downloads for Windows XP and newer and for older versions of Windows. If you meant a special version of NTP for Windows 7, I didn't see mention of it.

Why do you think "Windows XP and newer" doesn't include Windows 7, 8,
and 10?

Martin (working @Meinberg)

Ron, Ron Ott wrote: > The Meinberg page I'm reading has NTP downloads for Windows XP and newer and for older versions of Windows. If you meant a special version of NTP for Windows 7, I didn't see mention of it. Why do you think "Windows XP and newer" doesn't include Windows 7, 8, and 10? Martin (working @Meinberg)
DJ
David J Taylor
Sat, Aug 6, 2016 9:19 AM

The Meinberg page I'm reading has NTP downloads for Windows XP and newer and
for older versions of Windows. If you meant a special version of NTP for
Windows 7, I didn't see mention of it.
Ron

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No, it was just that you mentioned Win-7 and the Meinberg compilation is
compatible with Win-XP/SP3 and later.  There is a recommendation for Win-7
and later which is not to allow the poll to exceed 6 (or 7?) for remote
servers.  E.g.

# UK pool servers
pool    uk.pool.ntp.org        minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 iburst

Cheers,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv

The Meinberg page I'm reading has NTP downloads for Windows XP and newer and for older versions of Windows. If you meant a special version of NTP for Windows 7, I didn't see mention of it. Ron =================================== No, it was just that you mentioned Win-7 and the Meinberg compilation is compatible with Win-XP/SP3 and later. There is a recommendation for Win-7 and later which is not to allow the poll to exceed 6 (or 7?) for remote servers. E.g. # UK pool servers pool uk.pool.ntp.org minpoll 6 maxpoll 6 iburst Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv