(Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.) http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/ Two of the shorts mentions time. Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran). So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant: http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet-Conant/9780684872889 Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day." Some other Loomis links of interest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation-at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/ And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 ms in the 1930's... http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise-Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren A. Marrison: https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the-evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/ via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/ and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510 If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list. /tvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park > (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.) > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/ > Two of the shorts mentions time. > > Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago. > > > -- > These are my opinions. I hate spam. >

I could only afford a single Accutron, so I got in the habit of storing it overnight in an orientation estimated to correct bedtime error by wake up time. I got pretty good at it. BTW thanks very much for the tip on the book- I must definitely get a copy. Dana On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: > I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise > timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator > era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him > (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran). > > So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant: > http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet- > Conant/9780684872889 > > Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis > would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis > Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his > right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day > against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National > Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he > would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that > gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked > each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day." > > > > Some other Loomis links of interest: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN > https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation- > at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis > http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html > http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/ > > > And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 > ms in the 1930's... > > http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise- > Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf > > > Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren A. > Marrison: > > https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the- > evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/ > via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/ > and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510 > > > If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS show > for non-US viewers let me know, off-list. > > /tvb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> > To: <time-nuts@febo.com> > Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM > Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park > > > > (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.) > > > > http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/ > > Two of the shorts mentions time. > > > > Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago. > > > > > > -- > > These are my opinions. I hate spam. > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

>>...he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork... Sort of manual turbillon... On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: > I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran). > > So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant: > http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet-Conant/9780684872889 > > Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day." > > > > Some other Loomis links of interest: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN > https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation-at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis > http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html > http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/ > > > And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 ms in the 1930's... > > http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise-Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf > > > Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren A. Marrison: > > https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the-evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/ > via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/ > and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510 > > > If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list. > > /tvb > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> > To: <time-nuts@febo.com> > Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM > Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park > > >> (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.) >> >> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/ >> Two of the shorts mentions time. >> >> Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago. >> >> >> -- >> These are my opinions. I hate spam. >> > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

Hello to the group. I did read the book several years ago. Its quite good and I had no idea about any of this. Sort of amazing. So the fact that PBS is doing a show on this is going to be good to watch tonight. Thank you for sharing. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > >>...he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, > so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork... > Sort of manual turbillon... > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: > > I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise > timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator > era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him > (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran). > > > > So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant: > > http://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Tuxedo-Park/Jennet- > Conant/9780684872889 > > > > Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis > would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis > Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his > right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day > against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National > Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he > would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that > gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked > each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day." > > > > > > > > Some other Loomis links of interest: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lee_Loomis > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LORAN > > https://timeandnavigation.si.edu/navigating-air/navigation- > at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis > > http://www.ob-ultrasound.net/loomis.html > > http://leapsecond.com/pages/loomis/ > > > > > > And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 > ms in the 1930's... > > > > http://leapsecond.com/pend/shortt/1931-RAS-Precise- > Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf > > > > > > Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren > A. Marrison: > > > > https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/the- > evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/ > > via https://ieee-uffc.org/about-us/history/uffc-s-history/ > > and original at https://archive.org/details/bstj27-3-510 > > > > > > If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS > show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list. > > > > /tvb > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> > > To: <time-nuts@febo.com> > > Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM > > Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park > > > > > >> (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.) > >> > >> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/ > >> Two of the shorts mentions time. > >> > >> Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> These are my opinions. I hate spam. > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

To record OTA television I use an HDHomeRun : https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/ I'll grab tonight's run of The Secret of Tuxedo Park Cheers, Bill At 09:04 AM 1/16/2018, you wrote: >I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of >precise timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, >quartz oscillator era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C >receivers can thank him (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran). >..... > >If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of >PBS show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list. > >/tvb

Here is the PBS website which includes the full video: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/films/secret-tuxedo-park/#part01 David N1HAC On 1/16/18 1:14 PM, paul swed wrote: > Hello to the group. > I did read the book several years ago. Its quite good and I had no idea > about any of this. > Sort of amazing. > So the fact that PBS is doing a show on this is going to be good to watch > tonight. > Thank you for sharing. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 1:08 PM, Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>> ...he would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, >> so that gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork... >> Sort of manual turbillon... >> >> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: >>> I can't stress enough how important Loomis was to the history of precise >> timekeeping in early radio, telephone, pendulum clock, quartz oscillator >> era. And for those of us who still have Loran-C receivers can thank him >> (Loomis Radio Navigation -> LRN -> Loran). >>> So I highly recommend the 2003 book "Tuxedo Park" by Jennet Conant: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.simonandschuster.com%2Fbooks%2FTuxedo-Park%2FJennet-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=qFPSaqAEbfKwjfSO9D76XsqMfIm91Kw6eZuKLsmTvqo%3D&reserved=0 >> Conant/9780684872889 >>> Our kind of guy. In the "Palace of Science" chapter she writes: Loomis >> would remain a "time nut" for the rest of his life, according to Luis >> Alvarez, who recalled that Loomis always wore "two Accutrons--one on his >> right wrist and one on his left wrist." He would check them every day >> against WWV (the standard frequency broadcasting station of the National >> Bureau of Standards), and if one was gaining a half second on the other, he >> would wear it on the outside of his wrist instead of the inside, so that >> gravity changed the rate of the tuning fork and the two watches tracked >> each other, and WWV, "to within less than a second a day." >>> >>> >>> Some other Loomis links of interest: >>> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAlfred_Lee_Loomis&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=%2FkxpYWQyHhOGfAPH6N6enMskObQhtRzC8oK5j0sZLFk%3D&reserved=0 >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLORAN&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=ijMVI04uZM0eTrbLuv4mUY%2B083xMfjWbNpZ3MTc7t9c%3D&reserved=0 >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftimeandnavigation.si.edu%2Fnavigating-air%2Fnavigation-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=jYgt%2FrAP8cQKLvF9R4nVZG3k6nKUJzbJnJTzOcM5UAM%3D&reserved=0 >> at-war/new-era-in-time-and-navigation/alfred-loomis >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ob-ultrasound.net%2Floomis.html&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=GWqcRU3I3aUBiLOIE5Mw3Ei0YcSjgWIkZbUYIzlR%2FFw%3D&reserved=0 >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fleapsecond.com%2Fpages%2Floomis%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=ClO8gkx05Vq6qhDr5hkYYiwUO8na8HA1%2FYjNAGWuNZk%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> And the clever way to do time transfer and compare precision clocks to 1 >> ms in the 1930's... >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fleapsecond.com%2Fpend%2Fshortt%2F1931-RAS-Precise-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=q9iz56t67V0%2BwCYEVnkAtHxpVPLT3WeJo9Q%2FECXznzU%3D&reserved=0 >> Measurement-Time-Loomis.pdf >>> >>> Also the classic "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock" by Warren >> A. Marrison: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieee-uffc.org%2Fabout-us%2Fhistory%2Fuffc-s-history%2Fthe-&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=%2Fhbhe1nN0EpFHrUC9lbFRX8vdOzsqVFh7K6pkUncVQ0%3D&reserved=0 >> evolution-of-the-quartz-crystal-clock/ >>> via https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieee-uffc.org%2Fabout-us%2Fhistory%2Fuffc-s-history%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=gkQ3dzxJODXSS2QoxyZ9pCDH%2FvMNByXOxXDkbWelwDE%3D&reserved=0 >>> and original at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Farchive.org%2Fdetails%2Fbstj27-3-510&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=z74H2E33KXInYSJOPdK9YFchrDmzN4AzUBhWwGutgUs%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> If someone knows how to record any time/clock/navigation parts of PBS >> show for non-US viewers let me know, off-list. >>> /tvb >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> >>> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> >>> Cc: "Hal Murray" <hmurray@megapathdsl.net> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:42 AM >>> Subject: [time-nuts] PBS, Tue evening, The Secret of Tuxedo Park >>> >>> >>>> (Sorry for the clutter to those of you outside the US.) >>>> >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pbs.org%2Fwgbh%2Famericanexperience%2Ffilms%2Fsecret-tuxedo-park%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cdavid.g.mcgaw%40dartmouth.edu%7C2baf103d9c32419fccc108d55d0d047f%7C995b093648d640e5a31ebf689ec9446f%7C0%7C0%7C636517232850475383&sdata=aUWBUJU2BmB46OmWfj5JShfUyypuRelczNpqqwOA78k%3D&reserved=0 >>>> Two of the shorts mentions time. >>>> >>>> Many thanks for the Tuxedo Park book suggestion many years ago. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> These are my opinions. 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