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does anybody have software for the DeLorme LT-20 Earthmate?

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walter shawlee 2
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 4:14 PM

sadly, all the repositories of software for these nice little yellow USB GPS pucks
has vanished, and nothing remains at the DeLorme site at all. from what I see,
they discontinued all support after XP.

if anybody has anything left for them, even a manual PDF file, it would be
greatly appreciated,
I just got them in a bag, with nothing. generic operation under Linux (Ubuntu)
would be an especially great find, although I know the company did not produce
anything.  I have seen references to some
later software (also vanished) that was 3rd party.  do any internals for these
exist? I can tell from
the LED codes the ones I have work and can acquire, but I can't get at the
data.  I am also curious
if they can be hacked for time or frequency references as well.

any information appreciated. I am happy to send a puck to anybody that can come
up with working
linux software!

all the best,
walter

--
Walter Shawlee 2, President
Sphere Research Corporation
3394 Sunnyside Rd.,  West Kelowna,  BC
V1Z 2V4  CANADA  Phone: (250) 769-1834
walter2@sphere.bc.ca
WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you.
Love is all you need. (John Lennon)
But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2)

sadly, all the repositories of software for these nice little yellow USB GPS pucks has vanished, and nothing remains at the DeLorme site at all. from what I see, they discontinued all support after XP. if anybody has anything left for them, even a manual PDF file, it would be greatly appreciated, I just got them in a bag, with nothing. generic operation under Linux (Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the company did not produce anything. I have seen references to some later software (also vanished) that was 3rd party. do any internals for these exist? I can tell from the LED codes the ones I have work and can acquire, but I can't get at the data. I am also curious if they can be hacked for time or frequency references as well. any information appreciated. I am happy to send a puck to anybody that can come up with working linux software! all the best, walter -- Walter Shawlee 2, President Sphere Research Corporation 3394 Sunnyside Rd., West Kelowna, BC V1Z 2V4 CANADA Phone: (250) 769-1834 walter2@sphere.bc.ca WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you. Love is all you need. (John Lennon) But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2)
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Scott McGrath
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 6:30 PM

I think they speak NMEA 0183 hook one up to the serial port and try 4800,8,1,N and look for the NMEA messages scrolling past.  Play with the serial parameters

On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:14 PM, walter shawlee 2 walter2@sphere.bc.ca wrote:

sadly, all the repositories of software for these nice little yellow USB GPS pucks
has vanished, and nothing remains at the DeLorme site at all. from what I see,
they discontinued all support after XP.

if anybody has anything left for them, even a manual PDF file, it would be greatly appreciated,
I just got them in a bag, with nothing. generic operation under Linux (Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the company did not produce anything.  I have seen references to some
later software (also vanished) that was 3rd party.  do any internals for these exist? I can tell from
the LED codes the ones I have work and can acquire, but I can't get at the data.  I am also curious
if they can be hacked for time or frequency references as well.

any information appreciated. I am happy to send a puck to anybody that can come up with working
linux software!

all the best,
walter

--
Walter Shawlee 2, President
Sphere Research Corporation
3394 Sunnyside Rd.,  West Kelowna,  BC
V1Z 2V4  CANADA  Phone: (250) 769-1834
walter2@sphere.bc.ca
WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you.
Love is all you need. (John Lennon)
But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2)


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I think they speak NMEA 0183 hook one up to the serial port and try 4800,8,1,N and look for the NMEA messages scrolling past. Play with the serial parameters > On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:14 PM, walter shawlee 2 <walter2@sphere.bc.ca> wrote: > > sadly, all the repositories of software for these nice little yellow USB GPS pucks > has vanished, and nothing remains at the DeLorme site at all. from what I see, > they discontinued all support after XP. > > if anybody has anything left for them, even a manual PDF file, it would be greatly appreciated, > I just got them in a bag, with nothing. generic operation under Linux (Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the company did not produce anything. I have seen references to some > later software (also vanished) that was 3rd party. do any internals for these exist? I can tell from > the LED codes the ones I have work and can acquire, but I can't get at the data. I am also curious > if they can be hacked for time or frequency references as well. > > any information appreciated. I am happy to send a puck to anybody that can come up with working > linux software! > > all the best, > walter > > -- > Walter Shawlee 2, President > Sphere Research Corporation > 3394 Sunnyside Rd., West Kelowna, BC > V1Z 2V4 CANADA Phone: (250) 769-1834 > walter2@sphere.bc.ca > WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you. > Love is all you need. (John Lennon) > But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2) > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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Gary E. Miller
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 6:36 PM

Yo walter!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:14:26 -0700
walter shawlee 2 walter2@sphere.bc.ca wrote:

generic operation under Linux
(Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the
company did not produce anything.

Have you tried gpsd?  gpsd has supported several EarthMate versions.

BTW, the Ubuntu binary for gpsd is not so good, grab the source
from upstream.

RGDS
GARY

Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Yo walter! On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:14:26 -0700 walter shawlee 2 <walter2@sphere.bc.ca> wrote: > generic operation under Linux > (Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the > company did not produce anything. Have you tried gpsd? gpsd has supported several EarthMate versions. BTW, the Ubuntu binary for gpsd is not so good, grab the source from upstream. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
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walter shawlee 2
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 7:39 PM

I am not really sure what program is actually gpsd, there seem to be 5 on
sourceforge when searching gpsd, but all seem abandoned, none have any hardware
info as to supported devices.  using the ubuntu repository returns nothing.

I will download what's there and see if I can get any to work. clearly the
DeLorme devices did not have message code compatibility with other units, and
there seems to be an issue with starting the device (command required) before it
will output anything, a somewhat unhappy circumstance from a testing viewpoint.

all the best,
walter

Walter Shawlee 2, President
Sphere Research Corporation
3394 Sunnyside Rd.,  West Kelowna,  BC
V1Z 2V4  CANADA  Phone: (250) 769-1834
walter2@sphere.bc.ca
WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you.
Love is all you need. (John Lennon)
But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2)

On 2016-06-06 11:36 AM, Gary E. Miller wrote:

Yo walter!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:14:26 -0700
walter shawlee 2 walter2@sphere.bc.ca wrote:

generic operation under Linux
(Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the
company did not produce anything.

Have you tried gpsd?  gpsd has supported several EarthMate versions.

BTW, the Ubuntu binary for gpsd is not so good, grab the source
from upstream.

RGDS
GARY

Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

I am not really sure what program is actually gpsd, there seem to be 5 on sourceforge when searching gpsd, but all seem abandoned, none have any hardware info as to supported devices. using the ubuntu repository returns nothing. I will download what's there and see if I can get any to work. clearly the DeLorme devices did not have message code compatibility with other units, and there seems to be an issue with starting the device (command required) before it will output anything, a somewhat unhappy circumstance from a testing viewpoint. all the best, walter Walter Shawlee 2, President Sphere Research Corporation 3394 Sunnyside Rd., West Kelowna, BC V1Z 2V4 CANADA Phone: (250) 769-1834 walter2@sphere.bc.ca WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you. Love is all you need. (John Lennon) But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2) On 2016-06-06 11:36 AM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > Yo walter! > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 09:14:26 -0700 > walter shawlee 2 <walter2@sphere.bc.ca> wrote: > >> generic operation under Linux >> (Ubuntu) would be an especially great find, although I know the >> company did not produce anything. > Have you tried gpsd? gpsd has supported several EarthMate versions. > > BTW, the Ubuntu binary for gpsd is not so good, grab the source > from upstream. > > RGDS > GARY > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 > gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
GE
Gary E. Miller
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 7:51 PM

Yo walter!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:39:53 -0700
walter shawlee 2 walter2@sphere.bc.ca wrote:

I am not really sure what program is actually gpsd, there seem to be
5 on sourceforge when searching gpsd, but all seem abandoned, none
have any hardware info as to supported devices.  using the ubuntu
repository returns nothing.

Well maintained, for along time:

https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/

The package has moved homes, and some of the old homes, like berlios,
are zombies.

On Ubuntu:

apt-get install gpsd gpsd-clients

But I recommend getting from upstream:

https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/

I will download what's there and see if I can get any to work.
clearly the DeLorme devices did not have message code compatibility
with other units, and there seems to be an issue with starting the
device (command required) before it will output anything, a somewhat
unhappy circumstance from a testing viewpoint.

Delerme shipd many different types of totally incompatible GPS.  Got
a model number, a picture?

RGDS
GARY

Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Yo walter! On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:39:53 -0700 walter shawlee 2 <walter2@sphere.bc.ca> wrote: > I am not really sure what program is actually gpsd, there seem to be > 5 on sourceforge when searching gpsd, but all seem abandoned, none > have any hardware info as to supported devices. using the ubuntu > repository returns nothing. Well maintained, for along time: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/ The package has moved homes, and some of the old homes, like berlios, are zombies. On Ubuntu: apt-get install gpsd gpsd-clients But I recommend getting from upstream: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/ > I will download what's there and see if I can get any to work. > clearly the DeLorme devices did not have message code compatibility > with other units, and there seems to be an issue with starting the > device (command required) before it will output anything, a somewhat > unhappy circumstance from a testing viewpoint. Delerme shipd many different types of totally incompatible GPS. Got a model number, a picture? RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
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walter shawlee 2
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 8:36 PM

Gary,

here's a pic of the actual GPS puck, and the back FCC sticker.
the front model number is just LT-20 (which I seem to be able to find zero docs
for).
the back also says model 9838.  not sure how clear it is in the pic, but the LED
is flashing green, indicating 3D sat acquisition according to instructions for
other models.

using vmware, and XP running inside on my Ubuntu 16.04 workstation, windows does
report seeing a delorme USB GPS device. next is to see if I can get anything to
unpack the data from it. I will try your
gpsd repository, but I don't have the right info yet to make it work, so going
to try earthbridge first..

-walter

Walter Shawlee 2, President
Sphere Research Corporation
3394 Sunnyside Rd.,  West Kelowna,  BC
V1Z 2V4  CANADA  Phone: (250) 769-1834
walter2@sphere.bc.ca
WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you.
Love is all you need. (John Lennon)
But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2)

On 2016-06-06 12:51 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote:

Yo walter!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:39:53 -0700
walter shawlee 2 walter2@sphere.bc.ca wrote:

I am not really sure what program is actually gpsd, there seem to be
5 on sourceforge when searching gpsd, but all seem abandoned, none
have any hardware info as to supported devices.  using the ubuntu
repository returns nothing.

Well maintained, for along time:

https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/

The package has moved homes, and some of the old homes, like berlios,
are zombies.

On Ubuntu:

apt-get install gpsd gpsd-clients

But I recommend getting from upstream:

https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/

I will download what's there and see if I can get any to work.
clearly the DeLorme devices did not have message code compatibility
with other units, and there seems to be an issue with starting the
device (command required) before it will output anything, a somewhat
unhappy circumstance from a testing viewpoint.

Delerme shipd many different types of totally incompatible GPS.  Got
a model number, a picture?

RGDS
GARY

Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Gary, here's a pic of the actual GPS puck, and the back FCC sticker. the front model number is just LT-20 (which I seem to be able to find zero docs for). the back also says model 9838. not sure how clear it is in the pic, but the LED is flashing green, indicating 3D sat acquisition according to instructions for other models. using vmware, and XP running inside on my Ubuntu 16.04 workstation, windows does report seeing a delorme USB GPS device. next is to see if I can get anything to unpack the data from it. I will try your gpsd repository, but I don't have the right info yet to make it work, so going to try earthbridge first.. -walter Walter Shawlee 2, President Sphere Research Corporation 3394 Sunnyside Rd., West Kelowna, BC V1Z 2V4 CANADA Phone: (250) 769-1834 walter2@sphere.bc.ca WS2: We're all in one boat, no matter how it looks to you. Love is all you need. (John Lennon) But, that doesn't mean other things don't come in handy. (WS2) On 2016-06-06 12:51 PM, Gary E. Miller wrote: > Yo walter! > > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 12:39:53 -0700 > walter shawlee 2 <walter2@sphere.bc.ca> wrote: > >> I am not really sure what program is actually gpsd, there seem to be >> 5 on sourceforge when searching gpsd, but all seem abandoned, none >> have any hardware info as to supported devices. using the ubuntu >> repository returns nothing. > Well maintained, for along time: > > https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/ > > The package has moved homes, and some of the old homes, like berlios, > are zombies. > > On Ubuntu: > > apt-get install gpsd gpsd-clients > > But I recommend getting from upstream: > > https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/gpsd/ > >> I will download what's there and see if I can get any to work. >> clearly the DeLorme devices did not have message code compatibility >> with other units, and there seems to be an issue with starting the >> device (command required) before it will output anything, a somewhat >> unhappy circumstance from a testing viewpoint. > Delerme shipd many different types of totally incompatible GPS. Got > a model number, a picture? > > > > RGDS > GARY > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 > gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588
GE
Gary E. Miller
Mon, Jun 6, 2016 8:43 PM

Yo walter!

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 13:36:32 -0700
walter shawlee 2 walter2@sphere.bc.ca wrote:

here's a pic of the actual GPS puck, and the back FCC sticker.
the front model number is just LT-20 (which I seem to be able to find
zero docs for).

I will try your
gpsd repository, but I don't have the right info yet to make it work,

gpsd is desiged to auto-detect everything.  You turn it on and it works
or it does not...

As this page notes:

http://forum.delorme.com/index.php?/topic/18311-lt-20-serial-output/

gpsd sends 'EARTHA" to the LT-20 and then the LT-20 outputs plain NMEA.

RGDS
GARY

Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703
gem@rellim.com  Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Yo walter! On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 13:36:32 -0700 walter shawlee 2 <walter2@sphere.bc.ca> wrote: > here's a pic of the actual GPS puck, and the back FCC sticker. > the front model number is just LT-20 (which I seem to be able to find > zero docs for). I see lots of info on that: http://forum.delorme.com/index.php?/forum/21-earthmate-gps-lt-20/ > I will try your > gpsd repository, but I don't have the right info yet to make it work, gpsd is desiged to auto-detect everything. You turn it on and it works or it does not... As this page notes: http://forum.delorme.com/index.php?/topic/18311-lt-20-serial-output/ gpsd sends 'EARTHA" to the LT-20 and then the LT-20 outputs plain NMEA. RGDS GARY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 gem@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588