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OCXO inside the FEI AN/URQ-23

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EWKehren@aol.com
Tue, Jul 25, 2017 2:48 PM

Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the manual
looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV
Bert Kehren

Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the manual looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV Bert Kehren
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Charles Steinmetz
Tue, Jul 25, 2017 3:30 PM

Bert wrote:

Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23.

I've played with several of the pulled oscillators.  They're nothing
special -- xDEV at most frequencies for the ones I've seen is around
5-20x worse than an HP 10811.  I tested them after they had been running
for 2-3 weeks -- I've never taken the time to let one settle for months
or years -- so some long-term improvement may be possible.  But I doubt
that the ones I've seen would ever equal a 10811.

Best regards,

Charles

Bert wrote: > Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. I've played with several of the pulled oscillators. They're nothing special -- xDEV at most frequencies for the ones I've seen is around 5-20x worse than an HP 10811. I tested them after they had been running for 2-3 weeks -- I've never taken the time to let one settle for months or years -- so some long-term improvement may be possible. But I doubt that the ones I've seen would ever equal a 10811. Best regards, Charles
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Tom Van Baak
Tue, Jul 25, 2017 3:37 PM

Bert,

In the early days of time-nuts the URQ-10, and especially the URQ-23, were highly sought after because of their reported stability. By now they are quite rare. Do you have one?

If it's important I can dig one out from the closet and run tests for you.

"Question if it is frequency or ADEV".

I'm not sure what you mean. There is no such thing as "frequency" vs. "ADEV".

/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Kehren via time-nuts" time-nuts@febo.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
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Subject: [time-nuts] OCXO inside the FEI AN/URQ-23

Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the manual
looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV
Bert Kehren

Bert, In the early days of time-nuts the URQ-10, and especially the URQ-23, were highly sought after because of their reported stability. By now they are quite rare. Do you have one? If it's important I can dig one out from the closet and run tests for you. > "Question if it is frequency or ADEV". I'm not sure what you mean. There is no such thing as "frequency" vs. "ADEV". /tvb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bert Kehren via time-nuts" <time-nuts@febo.com> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:48 AM Subject: [time-nuts] OCXO inside the FEI AN/URQ-23 > Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the manual > looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV > Bert Kehren
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paul swed
Tue, Jul 25, 2017 3:55 PM

Hello to the group.
I think I have a beta AN URQ-23. Flea market special. Its oscillator never
behaved correctly. (Most likely why it was at the Flea) I had no real
details then and its a bit of a boat anchor. Its been a while and I think I
hacked around in it without any real success.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Tom Van Baak tvb@leapsecond.com wrote:

Bert,

In the early days of time-nuts the URQ-10, and especially the URQ-23, were
highly sought after because of their reported stability. By now they are
quite rare. Do you have one?

If it's important I can dig one out from the closet and run tests for you.

"Question if it is frequency or ADEV".

I'm not sure what you mean. There is no such thing as "frequency" vs.
"ADEV".

/tvb

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Kehren via time-nuts" time-nuts@febo.com
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:48 AM
Subject: [time-nuts] OCXO inside the FEI AN/URQ-23

Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the

manual

looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV
Bert Kehren


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Hello to the group. I think I have a beta AN URQ-23. Flea market special. Its oscillator never behaved correctly. (Most likely why it was at the Flea) I had no real details then and its a bit of a boat anchor. Its been a while and I think I hacked around in it without any real success. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Tom Van Baak <tvb@leapsecond.com> wrote: > Bert, > > In the early days of time-nuts the URQ-10, and especially the URQ-23, were > highly sought after because of their reported stability. By now they are > quite rare. Do you have one? > > If it's important I can dig one out from the closet and run tests for you. > > > "Question if it is frequency or ADEV". > > I'm not sure what you mean. There is no such thing as "frequency" vs. > "ADEV". > > /tvb > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bert Kehren via time-nuts" <time-nuts@febo.com> > To: <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 7:48 AM > Subject: [time-nuts] OCXO inside the FEI AN/URQ-23 > > > > Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the > manual > > looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV > > Bert Kehren > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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timeok
Wed, Jul 26, 2017 6:41 AM

I have measured the Phase noise:
freq        dBc/Hz
1Hz          -115
10Hz        -135
100Hz      -148
1kHz        -160
10kHz      -167
100kHz    -171
Luciano
www.timeok.it

Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-bounces@febo.com
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Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the manual
looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV
Bert Kehren


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I have measured the Phase noise: freq dBc/Hz 1Hz -115 10Hz -135 100Hz -148 1kHz -160 10kHz -167 100kHz -171 Luciano www.timeok.it Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-bounces@febo.com A time-nuts@febo.com Cc Data Tue, 25 Jul 2017 10:48:24 -0400 Oggetto [time-nuts] OCXO inside the FEI AN/URQ-23 Has any one run tests of the OCXO inside the AN/URQ-23. Data in the manual looks promising. Question if it is frequency or ADEV Bert Kehren _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.