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Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz to 25MHz

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steve heidmann
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 6:24 PM

WoW . I don't know if I'm the first nut to see this but it was probably our own Jim Lux I just saw on CBS's Innovation Nation

On Sat, 1/21/17, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz to 25MHz
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Saturday, January 21, 2017, 7:25 AM

On 1/20/17 7:10 PM, Bob
Camp wrote:

Hi

There are several other materials that you

can make crystal resonators out of that

are piezo electric. Some of them can give you much higher Q.
This comes with a whole

raft of other

issues. Langesite is one of the more common materials you
see people

playing with. It is common

enough that I’ve actually played with it myself.  The
simple

  answer is that when you look

at cost, Q, and stability (aging, ADEV, temperature) —

it is tough to beat quartz. If you have a

few hundred thousand dollars, you can play

with great big chunks of Sapphire. Toss in

a bit of this and a bit of that and you can get a

pretty amazing oscillator. That device may

(or may not) be < $1,000,000 depending

on how you do the accounting and how many

parts you spread the costs over.

would not a true time nut grow
their own sapphire?

Realistically, isn't it all about the
crystal lattice.. SiO2 vs Al2O3 vs
Lanthanum Gallium Silicate vs Lithium
Niobate

WHat makes a
"good" material?  I would think the ability to
grow a very
uniform crystal is part of it,
but are certain crystal forms better than
others?


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WoW . I don't know if I'm the first nut to see this but it was probably our own Jim Lux I just saw on CBS's Innovation Nation -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 1/21/17, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 10MHz to 25MHz To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Saturday, January 21, 2017, 7:25 AM On 1/20/17 7:10 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > There are several other materials that you can make crystal resonators out of that > are piezo electric. Some of them can give you much higher Q. This comes with a whole > raft of other issues. Langesite is one of the more common materials you see people > playing with. It is common enough that I’ve actually played with it myself.  The simple >  answer is that when you look at cost, Q, and stability (aging, ADEV, temperature) — > it is tough to beat quartz. If you have a few hundred thousand dollars, you can play > with great big chunks of Sapphire. Toss in a bit of this and a bit of that and you can get a > pretty amazing oscillator. That device may (or may not) be < $1,000,000 depending > on how you do the accounting and how many parts you spread the costs over. would not a true time nut grow their own sapphire? Realistically, isn't it all about the crystal lattice.. SiO2 vs Al2O3 vs Lanthanum Gallium Silicate vs Lithium Niobate WHat makes a "good" material?  I would think the ability to grow a very uniform crystal is part of it, but are certain crystal forms better than others? _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
J
jimlux
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 7:09 PM

On 1/21/17 10:24 AM, steve heidmann via time-nuts wrote:

WoW . I don't know if I'm the first nut to see this but it was probably our own Jim Lux I just saw on CBS's Innovation Nation

It was.. I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought
it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM)..

I hope it came out ok.  You film these things months and months ago, and
they edit A LOT...

For all I know, it came out as "Jim believes that aliens built the
pyramids to prevent global warming, and when Napoleon's army started
shooting artillery at them, it was the beginning of the end"

(and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that
interview)

On 1/21/17 10:24 AM, steve heidmann via time-nuts wrote: > WoW . I don't know if I'm the first nut to see this but it was probably our own Jim Lux I just saw on CBS's Innovation Nation It was.. I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM).. I hope it came out ok. You film these things months and months ago, and they edit A LOT... For all I know, it came out as "Jim believes that aliens built the pyramids to prevent global warming, and when Napoleon's army started shooting artillery at them, it was the beginning of the end" (and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that interview)
CS
Charles Steinmetz
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 7:52 PM

jimlux wrote:

I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought
it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM)..

(and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that
interview)

jimlux wrote: > I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought > it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM).. > > (and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that > interview) LOL Try this: <https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/innovation-nation/episodes/ron-popiel/> Best regards, Charles
BC
Bob Camp
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 7:58 PM

Hi

So what we are all now scrambling to find a copy of is season 3, episode 62 originally aired 1/21/2017 of Innovation Nation.

Bob

On Jan 21, 2017, at 2:09 PM, jimlux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:

On 1/21/17 10:24 AM, steve heidmann via time-nuts wrote:

WoW . I don't know if I'm the first nut to see this but it was probably our own Jim Lux I just saw on CBS's Innovation Nation

It was.. I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM)..

I hope it came out ok.  You film these things months and months ago, and they edit A LOT...

For all I know, it came out as "Jim believes that aliens built the pyramids to prevent global warming, and when Napoleon's army started shooting artillery at them, it was the beginning of the end"

(and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that interview)


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Hi So what we are all now scrambling to find a copy of is season 3, episode 62 originally aired 1/21/2017 of Innovation Nation. Bob > On Jan 21, 2017, at 2:09 PM, jimlux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On 1/21/17 10:24 AM, steve heidmann via time-nuts wrote: >> WoW . I don't know if I'm the first nut to see this but it was probably our own Jim Lux I just saw on CBS's Innovation Nation > > It was.. I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM).. > > I hope it came out ok. You film these things months and months ago, and they edit A LOT... > > For all I know, it came out as "Jim believes that aliens built the pyramids to prevent global warming, and when Napoleon's army started shooting artillery at them, it was the beginning of the end" > > (and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that interview) > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
BC
Bob Camp
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 10:00 PM

Hi

On Jan 21, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Charles Steinmetz csteinmetz@yandex.com wrote:

jimlux wrote:

I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought
it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM)..

(and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that
interview)

That gets me to a quick intro to the episode and a link to watch the whole thing. The watch
the whole thing link sends me off to another episode entirely :(

Bob

Best regards,

Charles


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Hi > On Jan 21, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinmetz@yandex.com> wrote: > > jimlux wrote: > >> I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought >> it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM).. >> >> (and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that >> interview) > > LOL > > Try this: <https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/innovation-nation/episodes/ron-popiel/> That gets me to a quick intro to the episode and a link to watch the whole thing. The watch the whole thing link sends me off to another episode entirely :( Bob > > Best regards, > > Charles > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
CS
Charles Steinmetz
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 10:13 PM

Bob wrote:

That gets me to a quick intro to the episode and a link to watch the whole thing. The watch
the whole thing link sends me off to another episode entirely

Huh.  Worked fine for me, originally and just now.

Charles

Bob wrote: > That gets me to a quick intro to the episode and a link to watch the whole thing. The watch > the whole thing link sends me off to another episode entirely Huh. Worked fine for me, originally and just now. Charles
AM
Artek Manuals
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 10:46 PM

Dont know about this one  but I know from some other venues that it can
take a day or two for an episode that was aired this morning to actually
show up the link may bew pointing to last weeks show still ...Try again
on Monday or Tuesday

Dave

On 1/21/2017 5:00 PM, Bob Camp wrote:

Hi

On Jan 21, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Charles Steinmetz csteinmetz@yandex.com wrote:

jimlux wrote:

I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought
it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM)..

(and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that
interview)

That gets me to a quick intro to the episode and a link to watch the whole thing. The watch
the whole thing link sends me off to another episode entirely :(

Bob

Best regards,

Charles


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Dont know about this one but I know from some other venues that it can take a day or two for an episode that was aired this morning to actually show up the link may bew pointing to last weeks show still ...Try again on Monday or Tuesday Dave On 1/21/2017 5:00 PM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > >> On Jan 21, 2017, at 2:52 PM, Charles Steinmetz <csteinmetz@yandex.com> wrote: >> >> jimlux wrote: >> >>> I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought >>> it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM).. >>> >>> (and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that >>> interview) >> LOL >> >> Try this: <https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/innovation-nation/episodes/ron-popiel/> > That gets me to a quick intro to the episode and a link to watch the whole thing. The watch > the whole thing link sends me off to another episode entirely :( > > Bob > >> Best regards, >> >> Charles >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Dave Manuals@ArtekManuals.com www.ArtekManuals.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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jimlux
Sat, Jan 21, 2017 11:05 PM

On 1/21/17 11:52 AM, Charles Steinmetz wrote:

jimlux wrote:

I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought
it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM)..

(and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that
interview)

eventually it will be up there..

On 1/21/17 11:52 AM, Charles Steinmetz wrote: > jimlux wrote: > >> I forgot to watch (actually, I knew it was today, but I thought >> it would be on this afternoon, not at 7AM).. >> >> (and, I'll get a call from management on Monday.. uh, Jim, about that >> interview) > > LOL > > Try this: > <https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/innovation-nation/episodes/ron-popiel/> > eventually it will be up there..
DJ
David J Taylor
Sun, Jan 22, 2017 9:02 AM

From: Charles Steinmetz

Try this:
https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/innovation-nation/episodes/ron-popiel/

Best regards,

Charles


Not for the UK, it seems.  Is it on YouTube?  Could someone upload it
somewhere?

Thanks,
David

SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
Twitter: @gm8arv

From: Charles Steinmetz Try this: <https://www.thehenryford.org/explore/innovation-nation/episodes/ron-popiel/> Best regards, Charles ================================= Not for the UK, it seems. Is it on YouTube? Could someone upload it somewhere? Thanks, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements Web: http://www.satsignal.eu Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk Twitter: @gm8arv