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Re: [time-nuts] Sick Trimble TBolt

CC
Chris Caudle
Tue, Jan 30, 2018 11:23 PM

On Tue, January 30, 2018 11:33 am, Richard Solomon wrote:

I noticed a spot that looks like it takes a PC mount SMA.

Others have noted that the PCB appears to support multiple different
footprint oscillators or input of an external oscillator.

Looking at the center pin, it looks like the output of the TCXO.
I plan to run a small coax from that to the BNC output connector.
Any thoughts or comments ?

If the output buffer is not operating properly, then there is a high
likelihood the broken output buffer will just drag down the output of the
OCXO, which will prevent the entire device from operating. Even with the
buffer disconnected you risk disrupting the operation of the GPS receiver
when you connect and disconnect loads to the BNC connector (if the GPS
receiver even keeps operating properly with a 50 Ohm load directly on the
oscillator output).

What are the markings of the devices close to the BNC connector?  Don't
forget to check the bottom of the PCB, there are a few devices there as
well on some models, but I don't know if the layout is the same on all
revisions.

--
Chris Caudle

On Tue, January 30, 2018 11:33 am, Richard Solomon wrote: > I noticed a spot that looks like it takes a PC mount SMA. Others have noted that the PCB appears to support multiple different footprint oscillators or input of an external oscillator. > Looking at the center pin, it looks like the output of the TCXO. > I plan to run a small coax from that to the BNC output connector. > Any thoughts or comments ? If the output buffer is not operating properly, then there is a high likelihood the broken output buffer will just drag down the output of the OCXO, which will prevent the entire device from operating. Even with the buffer disconnected you risk disrupting the operation of the GPS receiver when you connect and disconnect loads to the BNC connector (if the GPS receiver even keeps operating properly with a 50 Ohm load directly on the oscillator output). What are the markings of the devices close to the BNC connector? Don't forget to check the bottom of the PCB, there are a few devices there as well on some models, but I don't know if the layout is the same on all revisions. -- Chris Caudle
CC
Chris Caudle
Tue, Jan 30, 2018 11:41 PM

What are the markings of the devices close to the BNC connector?

Just a guess based on some previous comments from Bob, you are probably
looking for a logic gate, probably with an LC filter on the output.  Could
also be some kind of MMIC device, but gate with a filter seems like a good
possibility.
Probably SOIC device, shouldn't be too hard to replace.

--
Chris Caudle

> What are the markings of the devices close to the BNC connector? Just a guess based on some previous comments from Bob, you are probably looking for a logic gate, probably with an LC filter on the output. Could also be some kind of MMIC device, but gate with a filter seems like a good possibility. Probably SOIC device, shouldn't be too hard to replace. -- Chris Caudle
BG
Bruce Griffiths
Wed, Jan 31, 2018 12:02 AM

At least one model used a comparatively noisy wideband unity gain analog buffer IC.
Without the buffer the OCXO PN was is lower.

Bruce

On 31 January 2018 at 12:41 Chris Caudle chris@chriscaudle.org wrote:

What are the markings of the devices close to the BNC connector?

Just a guess based on some previous comments from Bob, you are probably
looking for a logic gate, probably with an LC filter on the output.  Could
also be some kind of MMIC device, but gate with a filter seems like a good
possibility.
Probably SOIC device, shouldn't be too hard to replace.

--
Chris Caudle


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At least one model used a comparatively noisy wideband unity gain analog buffer IC. Without the buffer the OCXO PN was is lower. Bruce > On 31 January 2018 at 12:41 Chris Caudle <chris@chriscaudle.org> wrote: > > > > What are the markings of the devices close to the BNC connector? > > Just a guess based on some previous comments from Bob, you are probably > looking for a logic gate, probably with an LC filter on the output. Could > also be some kind of MMIC device, but gate with a filter seems like a good > possibility. > Probably SOIC device, shouldn't be too hard to replace. > > -- > Chris Caudle > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.