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Have done some more cutting on the Cs beam tube

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cdelect@juno.com
Sun, Feb 19, 2017 6:54 PM

Hi,

The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC
testing of the tube.

The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing coil.

The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding.

The high performance cavity is even "prettier".

You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/

Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the
circumference of the cavity.

BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and
High Performance tubes.

They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two
different tubes!

Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!!

(Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend
life!!!???)

Cheers,

Corby

Hi, The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC testing of the tube. The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing coil. The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding. The high performance cavity is even "prettier". You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/ Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the circumference of the cavity. BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and High Performance tubes. They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two different tubes! Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!! (Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend life!!!???) Cheers, Corby
BD
Bill Dailey
Sun, Feb 19, 2017 8:04 PM

Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?"

Bill Dailey

On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com wrote:

Hi,

The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC
testing of the tube.

The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing coil.

The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding.

The high performance cavity is even "prettier".

You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/

Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the
circumference of the cavity.

BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and
High Performance tubes.

They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two
different tubes!

Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!!

(Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend
life!!!???)

Cheers,

Corby


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Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?" Bill Dailey > On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, <cdelect@juno.com> <cdelect@juno.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC > testing of the tube. > > The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing coil. > > The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding. > > The high performance cavity is even "prettier". > > You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/ > > Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the > circumference of the cavity. > > BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and > High Performance tubes. > > They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two > different tubes! > > Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!! > > (Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend > life!!!???) > > Cheers, > > Corby > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Feb 19, 2017 9:19 PM

Hi

The high performance tube runs at a higher beam current than the standard
tube. One would guess that a bit more Cs boils off to supply the beam
at the higher temperature. There are rumors that the high performance tubes
were “selected” out of the batch. Even if that was once true, who knows
if it’s true today …

Bob

On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Bill Dailey docdailey@gmail.com wrote:

Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?"

Bill Dailey

On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com wrote:

Hi,

The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC
testing of the tube.

The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing coil.

The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding.

The high performance cavity is even "prettier".

You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/

Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the
circumference of the cavity.

BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and
High Performance tubes.

They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two
different tubes!

Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!!

(Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend
life!!!???)

Cheers,

Corby


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Hi The high performance tube runs at a higher beam current than the standard tube. One would guess that a bit more Cs boils off to supply the beam at the higher temperature. There are rumors that the high performance tubes were “selected” out of the batch. Even if that was once true, who knows if it’s true today … Bob > On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Bill Dailey <docdailey@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?" > > Bill Dailey > > >> On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, <cdelect@juno.com> <cdelect@juno.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC >> testing of the tube. >> >> The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing coil. >> >> The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding. >> >> The high performance cavity is even "prettier". >> >> You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/ >> >> Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the >> circumference of the cavity. >> >> BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and >> High Performance tubes. >> >> They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two >> different tubes! >> >> Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!! >> >> (Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend >> life!!!???) >> >> Cheers, >> >> Corby >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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paul swed
Sun, Feb 19, 2017 11:35 PM

Exactly the higher temp boils off more Cs to raise the signal to noise at
the expense of tube life. Thats exactly how I run Frankenstein. Though in
that case I am eking out what was left at no expense to tube life because
it was dead.
We are talking C fumes.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Bob Camp kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Hi

The high performance tube runs at a higher beam current than the standard
tube. One would guess that a bit more Cs boils off to supply the beam
at the higher temperature. There are rumors that the high performance tubes
were “selected” out of the batch. Even if that was once true, who knows
if it’s true today …

Bob

On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Bill Dailey docdailey@gmail.com wrote:

Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?"

Bill Dailey

On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, cdelect@juno.com cdelect@juno.com

wrote:

Hi,

The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC
testing of the tube.

The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing

coil.

The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding.

The high performance cavity is even "prettier".

You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/

Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the
circumference of the cavity.

BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and
High Performance tubes.

They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two
different tubes!

Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!!

(Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend
life!!!???)

Cheers,

Corby


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Exactly the higher temp boils off more Cs to raise the signal to noise at the expense of tube life. Thats exactly how I run Frankenstein. Though in that case I am eking out what was left at no expense to tube life because it was dead. We are talking C fumes. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Bob Camp <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > The high performance tube runs at a higher beam current than the standard > tube. One would guess that a bit more Cs boils off to supply the beam > at the higher temperature. There are rumors that the high performance tubes > were “selected” out of the batch. Even if that was once true, who knows > if it’s true today … > > Bob > > > On Feb 19, 2017, at 3:04 PM, Bill Dailey <docdailey@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Is it possible that the higher temp keeps the tube "cooked off?" > > > > Bill Dailey > > > > > >> On Feb 19, 2017, at 12:54 PM, <cdelect@juno.com> <cdelect@juno.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> The tiny coil inside the beam path is the low frequency coil used for DC > >> testing of the tube. > >> > >> The tube shown is a standard performance tube and has no degaussing > coil. > >> > >> The flat windings on top of the shield are the C-field winding. > >> > >> The high performance cavity is even "prettier". > >> > >> You can see one at http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/cesium-tube/ > >> > >> Towards the bottom you can see the C-field windings in slots around the > >> circumference of the cavity. > >> > >> BTW in 5071A tubes there is no internal difference between the STD and > >> High Performance tubes. > >> > >> They just run at different temperatures! Saves having to build two > >> different tubes! > >> > >> Some more interesting 5071A tube info will post in a couple weeks!!! > >> > >> (Hint: Run your 5071A HiPerf tube at the Std tube temperature to extend > >> life!!!???) > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Corby > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >