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Re: [time-nuts] Adafruit Ultimate GPS timing message arrival times

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Hal Murray
Sat, Jul 30, 2016 10:31 PM

Just in case we have some newcomers to the thread I'd like to point out
that this recent series of measurements of RS232 / NMEA have no bearing at
all on the quality of the timing output. Timing NMEA is more of a
curiosity; something to measure at the hundreds or tens of millisecond
level. As anyone knows, the real timing output of these receiver is the
1PPS pulse itself, which is good to the tens of nanoseconds level. So a
factor of a million different.

I think that depends on how far down the nutty scale you are operating.

I think all the investigations of timing over serial ports are useful.  You
can get sub millisecond timing over RS-232.  That is interesting for things
like NTP if you don't have a PPS connection, so it helps to know which chips
are good and which ones to avoid,

Serial ports are getting rare.  Most USB to RS-232 chips are slow with a 1 ms
polling rate.  I think AdaFruit has one that polls 8x faster.  That should
get sub-ms timing if coupled with a good GPS chip.

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tvb@LeapSecond.com said: > Just in case we have some newcomers to the thread I'd like to point out > that this recent series of measurements of RS232 / NMEA have no bearing at > all on the quality of the timing output. Timing NMEA is more of a > curiosity; something to measure at the hundreds or tens of millisecond > level. As anyone knows, the real timing output of these receiver is the > 1PPS pulse itself, which is good to the tens of nanoseconds level. So a > factor of a million different. I think that depends on how far down the nutty scale you are operating. I think all the investigations of timing over serial ports are useful. You can get sub millisecond timing over RS-232. That is interesting for things like NTP if you don't have a PPS connection, so it helps to know which chips are good and which ones to avoid, Serial ports are getting rare. Most USB to RS-232 chips are slow with a 1 ms polling rate. I think AdaFruit has one that polls 8x faster. That should get sub-ms timing if coupled with a good GPS chip. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.