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LTZ1000 project build

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Frank Stellmach
Sun, Jun 5, 2016 12:20 PM

This whole discussion does not really apply to the LTZ1000 circuit, that
is the bare 7.15..V output, w/o step up amplifier, as all drift
parameters were attenuated by orders of magnitude, depending on the
resistors, R1-R5.

In the eevblog thread, several volt-nuts measured the real dependency,
in contrast to the datsheet, which simply claims 1:100 attenuation for
each of these resistors:

R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 author
120 70000 70000 12-15k 1k
-1/770 -1/250 -1/1400 +1/100
janaf
-1/600 -1/238 -1/1000 +1/87
lars
-1/656

TiN

1/714 1/250 1/3333 1/105
bbs38hot
-1/670 -1/238 -1/1184 +1/74 -1/75 Andreas

Therefore, even humidity effects at most affect R4/R5, with 1/75 impact.

I also think, that it's possible for volt-nuts to measure such residual
effects, by assembling several references, keeping the parameter of
question (e.g. humidity or temperature) constant for the master
reference, varying this paramater for a DUT, and evaluating the drift by
monitoring the difference between the references.

Same goes for longterm drift, by using a group of many references (A man
with one, two, three clocks..)

In the end, maintaining ultra precise references at first requires to
care for controlled/constant ambient parameters, than to put too much
effort to design references, which are immune to all possible drift factors.

Frank

This whole discussion does not really apply to the LTZ1000 circuit, that is the bare 7.15..V output, w/o step up amplifier, as all drift parameters were attenuated by orders of magnitude, depending on the resistors, R1-R5. In the eevblog thread, several volt-nuts measured the real dependency, in contrast to the datsheet, which simply claims 1:100 attenuation for each of these resistors: R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 author 120 70000 70000 12-15k 1k -1/770 -1/250 -1/1400 +1/100 janaf -1/600 -1/238 -1/1000 +1/87 lars -1/656 TiN 1/714 1/250 1/3333 1/105 bbs38hot -1/670 -1/238 -1/1184 +1/74 -1/75 Andreas Therefore, even humidity effects at most affect R4/R5, with 1/75 impact. I also think, that it's possible for volt-nuts to measure such residual effects, by assembling several references, keeping the parameter of question (e.g. humidity or temperature) constant for the master reference, varying this paramater for a DUT, and evaluating the drift by monitoring the difference between the references. Same goes for longterm drift, by using a group of many references (A man with one, two, three clocks..) In the end, maintaining ultra precise references at first requires to care for controlled/constant ambient parameters, than to put too much effort to design references, which are immune to all possible drift factors. Frank