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M. Simon
Mon, Jan 2, 2017 9:18 PM

I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation.

A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html
I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to incorporate useful suggestions in the final design.

Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious.

What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf  and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and zeros. 
The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator.

Simon
 Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I like Polywell Fusion.

I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation. A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to incorporate useful suggestions in the final design. Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious. What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf  and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and zeros.  The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator. Simon  Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit. I like Polywell Fusion.
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David
Tue, Jan 3, 2017 12:20 AM

I see generally how it should work but did not draw out a truth table.

Why use the 74CB3T3253 instead of a low voltage 4052 variant?

It think you could buffer just the two references and save two
operational amplifiers and 2 or 4 capacitors.

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation.

A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html
I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to incorporate useful suggestions in the final design.

Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious.

What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf  and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and zeros. 
The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator.

Simon

I see generally how it should work but did not draw out a truth table. Why use the 74CB3T3253 instead of a low voltage 4052 variant? It think you could buffer just the two references and save two operational amplifiers and 2 or 4 capacitors. On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: >I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation. > >A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html >I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to incorporate useful suggestions in the final design. > >Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious. > >What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf  and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and zeros.  >The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator. > >Simon
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Scott Stobbe
Tue, Jan 3, 2017 1:48 AM

Fwiw, an xor gate would make a simple bpsk modulator, carrier input A
modulation B, B is low A is buffered, when B is high, carrier is inverted
(180 degree phase shift).

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:20 PM David davidwhess@gmail.com wrote:

I see generally how it should work but did not draw out a truth table.

Why use the 74CB3T3253 instead of a low voltage 4052 variant?

It think you could buffer just the two references and save two

operational amplifiers and 2 or 4 capacitors.

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates

both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation.

A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here:

I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments

or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to
incorporate useful suggestions in the final design.

Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing

hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious.

What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this

file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf
and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the
carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and
zeros.

The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing

latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator.

Simon


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Fwiw, an xor gate would make a simple bpsk modulator, carrier input A modulation B, B is low A is buffered, when B is high, carrier is inverted (180 degree phase shift). On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 7:20 PM David <davidwhess@gmail.com> wrote: > I see generally how it should work but did not draw out a truth table. > > > > Why use the 74CB3T3253 instead of a low voltage 4052 variant? > > > > It think you could buffer just the two references and save two > > operational amplifiers and 2 or 4 capacitors. > > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2017 21:18:12 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: > > > > >I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates > both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation. > > > > > >A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: > http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html > > >I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments > or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to > incorporate useful suggestions in the final design. > > > > > >Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing > hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious. > > > > > >What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this > file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf > and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the > carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and > zeros. > > >The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing > latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator. > > > > > >Simon > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > >
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Chris Albertson
Tue, Jan 3, 2017 7:16 AM

This could be done with a LOT fewer chips. Two ways to go

  1. All you need is a phase inverter controlled by a one bit signal
    and an attenuator also controlled by a one bit signal and a small
    micro controller.  the small uP provides the two control signals.  It
    maybe gets time from a 1PPs

  2. A faster computer could do direct synthesis of the 60KHz waveform
    You write 180K samples to a DAC per second    One of the $10 ARM
    SBCs will work.  You would need to apply a good 60KHz low pass filter

On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 1:18 PM, M. Simon via time-nuts
time-nuts@febo.com wrote:

I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation.

A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html
I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to incorporate useful suggestions in the final design.

Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious.

What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf  and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and zeros.
The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator.

Simon
Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit.
I like Polywell Fusion.


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This could be done with a LOT fewer chips. Two ways to go 1) All you need is a phase inverter controlled by a one bit signal and an attenuator also controlled by a one bit signal and a small micro controller. the small uP provides the two control signals. It maybe gets time from a 1PPs 2) A faster computer could do direct synthesis of the 60KHz waveform You write 180K samples to a DAC per second One of the $10 ARM SBCs will work. You would need to apply a good 60KHz low pass filter On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 1:18 PM, M. Simon via time-nuts <time-nuts@febo.com> wrote: > I have come up with a ridiculously simple WWVB simulator that simulates both the AM modulation and the BPSK modulation. > > A simple explanation and a link to the core schematic can be found here: http://spacetimepro.blogspot.com/2017/01/wwvb-simulator.html > I'm working on fleshing out the design and producing a PCB. Any comments or suggestions before I complete the design are welcome. I will try to incorporate useful suggestions in the final design. > > Note: I have looked all over the 'net for a similar design or any thing hinting at it. I found nothing. Once you see the design it becomes obvious. > > What clarified it for me is that I looked at the last diagram in this file http://www.wparc.us/presentations/SDR-2-19-2013/Tayloe_mixer_x3a.pdf and then plotted out the digital version of what the one cycle of the carrier would look like given that the signal is just made up of ones and zeros. > The final design (as far as I have gone) incorporates a synchronizing latch so the signals only change at the "zero" of the modulator. > > Simon > Engineering is the art of making what you want from what you can get at a profit. > I like Polywell Fusion. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California