Well I think there's a mistake or two here... https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce

"Whereas other clocks fall victim to relativistic effects at high speeds, cesium clocks do not. The frequency remains the same, and so the time remains accurate.” Well, to the wearer, it probably does. :) It’s ironic they said that given that they flew cesium clocks in the Hafele–Keating experiment to demonstrate exactly those relativistic effects. > On Oct 17, 2016, at 6:45 PM, Jim Palfreyman <jim77742@gmail.com> wrote: > > Well I think there's a mistake or two here... > > https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

It hurts to read this. John K1AE -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Palfreyman Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 9:46 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Atomic Watch Well I think there's a mistake or two here... https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

If I saw a chess playing machine that had a bunch of gears and levers, AND A LITTLE HUMAN INSIDE, and the proprietor was bragging about how well the human had been trained relative to the military, I would spend all my time wondering how much of the work the human was doing. Even if the combination played simply awful chess. Tim N3QE On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jim Palfreyman <jim77742@gmail.com> wrote: > Well I think there's a mistake or two here... > > https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >

I am peeking in as a mere amateur and that article hurts my brain, I cannot imagine how hard some folk here must be battering their heads against their desks. Oh, and it's not the first either, this one was a year prior... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/01/hoptroff_shows_first_atomic_watch_movement/ http://www.hoptroff.com/collections/atomic-timepieces On 18 October 2016 at 12:00, Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com> wrote: > If I saw a chess playing machine that had a bunch of gears and levers, AND > A LITTLE HUMAN INSIDE, and the proprietor was bragging about how well the > human had been trained relative to the military, I would spend all my time > wondering how much of the work the human was doing. Even if the combination > played simply awful chess. > > Tim N3QE > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jim Palfreyman <jim77742@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Well I think there's a mistake or two here... > > > > https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ > mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- Clint. *No trees were harmed in the sending of this mail. However, a large number of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.*

I’m really glad that the article was edited for clarity. Don > On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:12 AM, Clint Jay <cjaysharp@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am peeking in as a mere amateur and that article hurts my brain, I cannot > imagine how hard some folk here must be battering their heads against their > desks. > > Oh, and it's not the first either, this one was a year prior... > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/01/hoptroff_shows_first_atomic_watch_movement/ > > http://www.hoptroff.com/collections/atomic-timepieces > > On 18 October 2016 at 12:00, Tim Shoppa <tshoppa@gmail.com> wrote: > >> If I saw a chess playing machine that had a bunch of gears and levers, AND >> A LITTLE HUMAN INSIDE, and the proprietor was bragging about how well the >> human had been trained relative to the military, I would spend all my time >> wondering how much of the work the human was doing. Even if the combination >> played simply awful chess. >> >> Tim N3QE >> >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jim Palfreyman <jim77742@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Well I think there's a mistake or two here... >>> >>> https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >>> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/ >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > > -- > Clint. > > *No trees were harmed in the sending of this mail. However, a large number > of electrons were greatly inconvenienced.* > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. Lucky is he who has been able to understand the causes of things. Virgil ------------------------------- "Noli sinere nothos te opprimere" Dr. Don Latham, AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLC, 17850 Six Mile Road Huson, MT, 59846 mailing address: POBox 404 Frenchtown MT 59834-0404 VOX 406-626-4304 CEL 406-241-5093 Skype: buffler2 www.lightningforensics.com <http://www.lightningforensics.com/> www.sixmilesystems.com <http://www.sixmilesystems.com/>

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>>> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 9:45 PM, Jim Palfreyman <jim77742@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Well I think there's a mistake or two here... >>>> >>>> https://www.inverse.com/article/20497-john-patterson-atomic-ce But, MARS! -Bill